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Here’s how the season plays out…

LotusAggressor
ouchmyknee said:
Because this is Rutgers, the team will make the B1G tournament then go on a run to make it to the finals only to get blown out. That would be the most Rutgers things ever.
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The most Rutgers thing ever is happening right now: finally getting the elite recruits that RU fans have dreamed about for 40 years, and having the team turn out to be mediocre.
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Freshman on the road......

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The game stats pretty much tell the story. The game was just about as equal as it could be, except for the foul differential. I think RU got some nice whistles (Bailey falling down and the foul being called on Breidenbach and Grant not being called for the charge when he made the bucket). But Dylan taking it to the hoop and drawing fouls was not by accident. He was a force and was the main reason why RU won. He got to the line and converted at a high rate. That's why I was so frustrated with his 25 foot heave at the end of regulation. He should have driven to the hoop. Chances are he would have gotten fouled or converted a bucket.

In any close game, one can look at individual plays saying "if this didn't happen, Team X would have won." But that's just speculation. Those things did happen and the game played out like it did.

The rest of the RU freshman basically played to their season averages. I don't think an advanced analysis is needed here.
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Freshman on the road......

SHUSource
NewJerseyHawk said:
A) St Johns is really not a Top 10 school ( they're ranked in the Top 10 this week) AND

B) The Big East is simply a watered down league with very few challenges on a weekly basis.

That means that if RU is 12th to 15th in the B1G and played St Johns without Lathan Sommerville knowing what he's doing and no Dylan Grant, that RU probably is in NCAA discussion if they're in the Big East.

And St Johns is nowhere near the Top 10, as such a poor shooting 3 point team, they're no better than Illinois or Oregon IMO today.

It doesn't mean RU has had the season we expected (losing to Princeton and Kennesaw with Dylan injury etc), but this notion that Washington wouldn't be ahead of Butler, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Depaul and possibly Providence in the Big East is crazy. Washington is easily as talented as half the Big East conference in 2025.....so is Minnesota and certainly RU as well.

RU has to meet the standards of recruiting and coaching in a Top 2 or 3 league of college sports. That is the reality of 2025. But to look at each league like the Big East and ACC as "Equal", is simply not the case.....
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This ignores the fact that St. John's is a much better team than they were at that point in the season. They had a lot of new faces who took some time to fit together. You're correct that they are a very bad three-point shooting team, but it works and they keep beating people. This could prevent a deep run in the NCAAs, but as much as I can't stand him, I'll never count a Pitino team out. But they're certainly better than Oregon and, really, Illinois, which never impresses me. Washington stinks, too.

The Big East is more down this year than it has been, but it's no cakewalk. It never is. It doesn't have the sheer volume of teams the Big Ten does, so it won't appear as deep (and is, in fact, not this year), but aside from Seton Hall and DePaul, there are no automatic wins. Butler, Providence, and Georgetown are all wildly inconsistent but look very good sometimes. Those teams are very much like the Big Ten from, say, Oregon or Ohio State on down. The Big Ten does lack any automatic wins, as even though Penn State, Washington, and Northwestern stink, they still have all had moments this year.

But the sheer volumes of Big Ten programs notwithstanding, which provides the illusion of clearly superior quality, the leagues are pretty similar from year to year, aside from the Big Ten's quarter-century national championship drought and the fact that the Big East has won four of the last eight of them.

I tend to enjoy your posts and very often agree with them, but this has been a theme of yours for years and it's never really been borne out by the evidence.
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OT: Winter Storm Thursday 2/20: Very Likely Somewhere Between A Non-Event and a Minor Event (oof)

bac2therac
RocktheRac said:
Talk about "misinformation and confusion'" You were hinting at a historical storm. last week. Dr's were taking ur info and rescheduling appointments for yesterday and today and possibly tomorrow
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How dare you question the accuracy of 7 day model run...EVERY snow weenie poster on americanwx.com said it was unprecedented...don't you know what that means
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OT: NJ Golf season

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Purple-Ed said:
Anyone play The Rose in Old Bridge? - Thoughts/comments.
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I played it last year. I liked it, but it needs another year to grow in, as there were spots where the grass was still coming in. I thought the greens, though in good shape, were a bit hokey as many had multiple tiers to them. The last couple of holes were a shooting gallery though as people were criss-crossing fairways.

I plan on going back again this year.
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Freshman on the road......

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Freshman put up 70% of our #'s because they play 70% of our minutes. Got it.

We won because we played a team worse than us. UW still shot better from 2, equal from 3. Fouls are why we won, Dylan getting to the basket. Two of Osobor's fouls, I'm still waiting for him to actually make contact w an RU player.

At any rate, any road win is a good win.

And as for part of the "process". There is no process here because the two biggest cogs are gone 30 days.
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OT: NJ Golf season

Njbound1
Section124 said:
I've said this before but there are always black bears on Berkshire Valley. Been there a few times where the mama bear and her 2 cubs were rolling around on the 8th green. Always causes a slight delay.
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A few years back I was getting ready to play BV, when a very large black bear wandered onto the driving range. All of a sudden, this kid who worked there pulled up in a cart and said, “get in!” He starts chasing the bear, and we got so close that I could have touched it. A little unnerving.
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Freshman on the road......

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NewJerseyHawk said:
They fouled out OR RUs players and talent fouled them out of the game. 27 to 16 fouls is about freshman making plays.

I think there's a pattern of downplaying wins, which is odd to me. If we were in an ACC, playing Stanford, California, Miami, Boston College or even some teams in the Big East like Butler, DePaul, Seton Hall or Georgetown, i would see the apathy being real.

Someone has to finish 16th, 17th or 18th in the B1G.....someone like South Carolina, who is winless in the SEC, will finish last. But I don't think fans understand how wide the gaps are growing between the SEC, then the B1G and Big 12, from the rest of "major CBB.

I feel fairly certain Washington is better than a lot of teams in the 8 to 10 range in other conferences. It's not an accident that there are so many teams in the 6 to 7 win range in the B1G now, because the talent and league is very competitive.

Doesn't make it easy. I'm just watching the games on a week to week basis.

Keep in mind, with Lathan Sommerville having literally no idea what he was doing in Octobee and Dylan Grant being another freshman, we played 40 minutes of high level basketball against what may actually be the best CBB of all time in Rick Pitino and played St Johns toe to toe.

So 2 things are either true or need to be looked at with 2025 reality.

A) St Johns is really not a Top 10 school ( they're ranked in the Top 10 this week) AND

B) The Big East is simply a watered down league with very few challenges on a weekly basis.

That means that if RU is 12th to 15th in the B1G and played St Johns without Lathan Sommerville knowing what he's doing and no Dylan Grant, that RU probably is in NCAA discussion if they're in the Big East.

And St Johns is nowhere near the Top 10, as such a poor shooting 3 point team, they're no better than Illinois or Oregon IMO today.

It doesn't mean RU has had the season we expected (losing to Princeton and Kennesaw with Dylan injury etc), but this notion that Washington wouldn't be ahead of Butler, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Depaul and possibly Providence in the Big East is crazy. Washington is easily as talented as half the Big East conference in 2025.....so is Minnesota and certainly RU as well.

RU has to meet the standards of recruiting and coaching in a Top 2 or 3 league of college sports. That is the reality of 2025. But to look at each league like the Big East and ACC as "Equal", is simply not the case.....
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This seems like a major reach. Washington is what their record says they are. A 13-13 team. Your also missing the point that we needed a massive statistical anomaly on 3 point shooting to even get the game to OT. We’re a bad 3 point shooting team. We had several players who are usually extremely poor from 3 shoot lights out. We needed that along with a great fame from Dylan and several other things to go our way to force OT. We’re not a good team.
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OT: NJ Golf season

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I played Caves Valley. Course was no better than an average county course, the cabin I stayed in was no better than a Motel 6, and the food was about as good as a Golden Corral.

Ok, I lie. It really was top notch. The course I believe is 100% corporate membership, or at least it was when I was there. Thankfully we had caddies, because the greens were very tricky. I also ran a tee shot right next to a hole, unfortunately it was on the next hole...

Best part was sitting on the porch having cocktails before dinner listening to stories from the Director of Golf. Dennis something I think. He was the very first Vice Captain of the Ryder Cup team, but at the time, it was a real and legit job, more of a travel secretary. Stories about the players, how the team was ready to run through a wall after an inspirational speech from GWB (think it was him) and all of the other Presidents that played there (without being political) was just special. And yes, I'm trying to worm my way into that invite again.
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OT: President's Day

GoodOl'Rutgers
Source said:
American history could have been very different if there was a Dunkin Donuts open during the Revoution.

By the way, I always thought it would have made a good school project looking at ways the British could have better handled the events that wound up leading to the Revolution. Or if the Revolution was going to eventually happen no matter what.
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Dunkin' Donuts would have been called Dunkin' Crumpets and featured highly taxed tea and not coffee.
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OT: Winter Storm Thursday 2/20: Very Likely Somewhere Between A Non-Event and a Minor Event (oof)

RocktheRac
RU848789 said:
Are you really going to deny that you're clueless with regard to how to post "current" graphics? We've covered numerous times how the NWS snowfall maps are "live" graphics that update at some point after the NWS changes the graphic. Right now your two posts on page 6, from Monday at 11:34 pm and last night at 6:40 pm, both show graphics showing they were "issued Feb 19th, 2025 at 9:46 pm," which means either you are able to post maps well into the future or I'm right.

And they'll both probably soon show the updated graphics from this morning. Every one of my NWS graphics still shows the original graphic from that time. Also, you did erroneously post the graphic from Tuesday night in your post last night, but now it shows the graphic from 9:46 pm last night in your post from 6:40 pm last night and any NWS graphic you've posted in the past now shows the most recent or a very recent snowfall map, like your post on the 2/6 storm also shows last night's NWS graphic.

https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...n-rain-likely-until-12-pm.288790/post-7125742

It doesn't really matter much for this storm, but for a real storm with changing snowfall maps from the NWS it leads to misinformation and confusion. If you can't figure out how to post maps that don't change, you shouldn't post any maps at all from the NWS in these threads.
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Talk about "misinformation and confusion'" You were hinting at a historical storm. last week. Dr's were taking ur info and rescheduling appointments for yesterday and today and possibly tomorrow,
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OT: President's Day

GoodOl'Rutgers
RUPete said:
I hear ya. Always root for a win though, no matter what. I will still be at the last two games, but my expectations will be low.
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You should.. everyone should go and cheer.. Harper and Bailey and the other Frosh deserve it just for choosing Rutgers. Who knows when we will see talent like that at Rutgers again. Enjoy it as we should have all season.. with eyes wide open as to how everything has changed in college athletics and it was impossible to predict how the season would go.
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Pike Failed the Fans, Minimal Effort Towards NIL Raising Would’ve Made For a Special Season

FAT MOON
mugrat86 said:
There is no doubt that this seasons results for both football and basketball were terrible. I don’t understand how anyone could think that Greg has brought in great portal players. Athan basically had no other power 5 choices besides RU and KC identified him based on past experiences. We needed offensive line help desperately and the mods kept saying we don’t have the money to compete for them, yet Kyk claims Greg is a NIL champion
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it's very strange to me that there seems to be a very positive correlation between guys who hate Pike also LOVING Schiano.
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OT: Winter Storm Thursday 2/20: Very Likely Somewhere Between A Non-Event and a Minor Event (oof)

bac2therac
RU848789 said:
Are you really going to deny that you're clueless with regard to how to post "current" graphics? We've covered numerous times how the NWS snowfall maps are "live" graphics that update at some point after the NWS changes the graphic. Right now your two posts on page 6, from Monday at 11:34 pm and last night at 6:40 pm, both show graphics showing they were "issued Feb 19th, 2025 at 9:46 pm," which means either you are able to post maps well into the future or I'm right.

And they'll both probably soon show the updated graphics from this morning. Every one of my NWS graphics still shows the original graphic from that time. Also, you did erroneously post the graphic from Tuesday night in your post last night, but now it shows the graphic from 9:46 pm last night in your post from 6:40 pm last night and any NWS graphic you've posted in the past now shows the most recent or a very recent snowfall map, like your post on the 2/6 storm also shows last night's NWS graphic.

https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...n-rain-likely-until-12-pm.288790/post-7125742

It doesn't really matter much for this storm, but for a real storm with changing snowfall maps from the NWS it leads to misinformation and confusion. If you can't figure out how to post maps that don't change, you shouldn't post any maps at all from the NWS in these threads.
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Aren't you special

7 page thread on a non event that was modeled as such by Sunday Afternoon

Maybe you shouldn't post maps at all from model sites on this thread lest there be misinformation and confusion

I hope that doctor didn't cancel his appointments
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