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Never thought I would say this but Go Penn State!

5-10 kids at PSU- tells us all what we need to know about you.
As compared to the 1000’s that were raped by the Catholic Church?

Oh dude it’s like comparing Ted Bundy to Adolf Hitler. The amount of abuse the Catholics are responsible for is undeniable. And yes it’s VERY CLEAR that you are selectively offended because you yourself have some kind of connection to the Catholic Church and don’t like being labeled as such. SUPER OBVIOUS what you are doing.

Your ability to seperate the two tells me everything I need to know about you. It’s not about the kids with you, it’s about a football rivalry. That’s clear by the numbers

What was the greatest thing...

has now become the worst thing for the RU basketball perception. IF the two stars had gone elsewhere, we would just be another lousy team going nowhere but pretty much ignored. Unfortunately, we are always in the spotlight and keep falling on our collective faces. The prospect of yet another "first", the only team with 2 NBA top prospects not to make it to the national tourney may well finish dead last in the BIG! What a mess.

Never thought I would say this but Go Penn State!

Spanier, Schulz and Curley, who all KNEW and they let it happen suffered a slap on the wrist. Two of them are still alive.

The Cult fans won't even admit that JOE KNEW. Truly sickening.

When they first KNEW what was going on, my son was nine years old. I looked at him then and bile rose in my throat. There was a criminal conspiracy to cover up child rape. Take your whataboutism to your next NAMBLA meeting.

JOE KNEW!
Iffy I think you misread what I was saying.

I understand Joe Knew, I’m not defending Penn state in any capacity. I’m stating that when it comes to child abusers being harbored by an institution, there is no worse example in this country than that Catholic Church.

What this boils down to for me is 5-10 kids getting abused as compared to THOUSANDS of kids being abused.

Personally both are unforgivable imo, however I’m not gonna sit here and selectively ignore how much worse that Catholics are were with Their abuse of children

Never thought I would say this but Go Penn State!

Did I say I supported Penn state!”? Absolutely not!

I just recognize that it was about 5-10 kids that got abused at Penn state, it’s THOUSANDS of kids who have been abused by the Catholic Church.

I would tell you anyone who willingly sends their child to an institution associated with Catholics is either severely misguided or catholic themselves.

You gotta understand, if there’s ONE institution I will die on the hill of how evil they are for turning the other way and ignoring the problem, it’s the Catholic Church.

Pope Benedict confirmed this
5-10 kids at PSU- tells us all what we need to know about you.

OT: Fascinating treatment for PTSD and addiction

Absolutely fascinating that a group of posters who are scared to get the vaccine most of the world has bc of some unfounded potential health issues they’re convinced it has, but meanwhile are open minded to a Mexican street drug that’s been PROVEN to cause Murmurs and lingering heart issues…. All because Joe Rogan talked about it.

It has no impact on me who thinks its good or bad, just throwing it out there as it appears its moving forward as a treatment option. Like most treatments its not for everyone, just like the covid shot wasn't needed by everyone. But if you are on the verge of suicide or your life is a mess due to addiction, the trade off for potential heart murmers doesnt seem so bad.
You seem to be very angry over this topic which makes no sense at all.

Carino Lights Us Up

Tried to install D and toughness?

Absurd take.

WHat the problem has been is that Pike has thrown out the "D and toughness" identity and deferred to the 2 freshman and allowed AAU ball to be played at Rutgers. And AAU ball doesn't win against TEAMS. TEAMS are a whole different thing.

Caleb Ron and Geo were a team. THis squad is not a TEAM.

Pike has to look in the mirror and choose either:

-1.CONTINUE DEFERRING (and allow Bailey to shoot whenever he wants wqithout consequence, out of bounds open cuts and layups, Jwill to dribble in circles, Bailey to clearly be taking it (leading to 4 standing around)

OR

-2. STEP ON TOES and demand D and rebounding, ball movement and shots within the offense and not forced iso-NO MATTER who it is so the squad can turn into a TEAM. In essence, make this years version play like every OTHER version he has coached at RU.

Hope he chooses 2. We will see some POUTING if he does, but the players will either come around to being a TEAM member, or they will cause issues.

Ace and Dylan have shown the skill set (and the maturity of those skills and bball IQ levels) already. They dont need to showcase that further. They would have a choice on whether winning matters. As will everyone else.
Agreed.

There is no leadership on this team. Williams has shown that he is me first and immature. More interested in laughing during defeat and rolling around on the floor than doing what is necessary to win games and be a team player.

Not saying this season was ever going to be easy bringing in 9 new players in the roster. But you can’t worry about installing “d and toughness” in the summer when the concentration should have been on program. expectations and team,not individuality.

Rage research

What rebuild!? Did I miss the rebuild? I know we had a 2 year stretch helped belt Covid. Since then the program has been dying and fast. All of the excuses were first talent, then injury, then wait for Ace and Dylan. Well we did and we are the laughing stock of all CBB. Next year I don’t think we will be able to field a roster with what stays.

So our philosophy is we know he has been bad, we know this is the most embarrassing year ever, we know next year will be worse. So, let’s let him stay to ruin the program more? Big conference big money. Pike should be gone now
Exactly. I’d argue the rebuild stopped 2-3 years ago.

RAPID REACTION — Purdue

Good post. One of the problems of course is the other guys on the court besides Dylan Bailey and Somerville. When Hayes who is awful on d and really isn’t a big ten caliber player bricks every shot (ditto for martini) you’re left with decent athletes that are terrible offensive players who do not need to be accounted for and thus things get gummed up.
Yes that is problem and the biggest one we didn’t account for this year that PJ and to a similar extent Acuff are absolutely terrible defenders and get blown by so easily. Then again the so called defensive players , Jeremiah , Jordan and JMike have been 1 level above atrocious this year. So there is no fixing the defense this year and just have to pray it gets a little better but you can fix the offense and actually put pressure on the opposition to stop you which is what Wisconsin and Purdue did these last 2 games.
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The Sad Truth

I have said this since Princeton. He has one more chance next year or he’s gone. The backslide momentum from this is too much to overcome.

It’s a multi decade historical flop. You don’t recover from that. Accept it fellas.
Next year is going to be even worse. Complete roster turnover with lots of lower end players filling it out. Where and how do things get better here?
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Carino Lights Us Up

Carino is on point with this one.

Pike is a slow-cooker coach that is now living in a fast-food world. Adapt or fade away.
This is why you saw some of the best coaches in the country jump ship the last few years

Guys like Jay wright and Tony Bennett are steeped in this mindset of development and culture and they saw it coming that it was just going to be very difficult to build 4 year trajectory programs

Pike did this to a lesser extent with geo Ron Caleb which culminated in the 2 ncaa berths and a win and probably would’ve succeeded cycling his next group through and then the landscape changed and it’s not his thing and we just need to acknowledge that and either give him help aka a GM or move on
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Never thought I would say this but Go Penn State!

Weird night as a could never root for either of those teams vs. anybody.
I am, however, still trying to figure why Pedd State went for it with 40 seconds left in the game and the ball on their own 15 yd. line. Who doesn't take a knee in that position and take your chances in overtime ?
The way Allar was playing makes it a little questionable but I don't have a big issue with it because they had 2 timeouts and only needed a FG. They also got 10+ yards on the first play with a run. I might have continued that or maybe short easy throws to Warren or one of the backs to see if you could cross the 50 on some YAC. Then maybe open it up a little.

Allar's decision making and accuracy weren't good. He's lucky 2 INTs got called back on penalties too. I didn't think either of those decisions or throws were good.
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Carino Lights Us Up

That might be true but we have all we need to run an effective offense here now. Wisconsin and Purdue with Blackwell and Smith running the show ran pick and role or pick and pop ( Wisconsin 5 men hit 5 threes) . Simple fundamental basketball, a hard screen , either Smith tonight with 13-14 assists or Blackwell the other night , then Smith if open hunts his shot and if over hedged a simple bounce pass to the big for the roll.
We cannot run pick and roll with Ogbole who cannot catch a bounce pass but we can run it with Sommerville and certainly can run it with ACE and we can also run pick and pop with ACE. . Both of them can catch a bounce pass or a pass on a roll and dribble and finish at the rim. Leaving ACE in the corner on any set is a stupid wasted possession .Having Dylan in the corner as a decoy ( or more likely because he has been still been ill ) has to stop.
Dylan has to control the ball , start the screens , play the 2 man game from here on out. No more 50 point games playing simple fundamental basketball. Allowing Jeremiah , Jordan or JMike make any isolation play is a disaster waiting to happen and either a turnover or a run out for the other team. Pike has to use his big 3 the proper way. For the life of me why it hasn’t happened with that talent only involves a simple tweak or adjustment and would likely get us more foul shots. Dylan and Sommerville shoot well from the line. Ace should but has not . It is really a no brainer at this point.
I agree with a lot of this. Dylan, prior to his illness, has been mature enough to overcome this mess and fend for himself but the misuse of Ace is tragic. Ace is not a mature player at all and is wasting an entire year here. He’s just picking up bad habits that the pros will need to correct.

The Sad Truth

Sorry but anyone who thinks Pike is done here isn’t thinking logically. The only way he is done is if he quits. I don’t see that happening. He’s under contract with big buyouts the next 2-3 years. Pike is a very good coach and he will get things turned around. The question is when.
People, please get a clue about how a buyout works if you are going to post about it. The buyout is what another team owes us to take him. That would be like Christmas. What we owe him is the entire balance of his contract. Just not that complicated
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Never thought I would say this but Go Penn State!

Who says I can’t make ‘blanket statements?

That’s also a laughably hypocritical take… The Penn State Football team has zero to do with what occurred 20+ years ago at Penn state by people either dead or currently in jail, so really what’s the difference?

I don’t support institutions that harbor abusers of children. F*ck both schools
Spanier, Schulz and Curley, who all KNEW and they let it happen suffered a slap on the wrist. Two of them are still alive.

The Cult fans won't even admit that JOE KNEW. Truly sickening.

When they first KNEW what was going on, my son was nine years old. I looked at him then and bile rose in my throat. There was a criminal conspiracy to cover up child rape. Take your whataboutism to your next NAMBLA meeting.

JOE KNEW!
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Never thought I would say this but Go Penn State!

Not gonna argue with that

I think you and I are 99% on the same page. In this case I just despise PSU a little more for the reasons I stated.

I have a high school junior who is looking at schools - I told her that she is forbidden from PSU. She (being a kid and not knowing the history) thought it was a “rivalry” thing. I told her the actual reason and told her that PSU would never get a dime of my $.
Just make sure above all else as she is looking at colleges you keep her the HELL AWAY FROM Liberty University. There’s maybe not a more dangerous college on the planet for a father to send their daughter
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