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Loved Roy, I will put Roy in the conversation, different type of players
Very nice of you to put Roy Hinson “in the conversation” with Lathan Sommerville and acknowledge that they were different types of players. I’m sure he’ll appreciate that. Sommerville is the type that has played one NCAA game against Wagner. Hinson is the type that went in the first round of the draft and played an 8-year NBA career during which he was once traded for the number one draft pick.
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If we had Cliff...

Lathan was always going to get minutes this year. That was never a doubt. The difference between having a portal 5 or not is without the transfer we really NEED Lathan to be good as freshman or at least solid. If we had another option, we could survive if Lathan needed a year and if he was a stud from the jump then it's icing on the cake

You dont know until they play though. Loved Lathan as a prospect, but everyone loved Gavin too who was a much higher rated player and turned out to be a complete bust. It happens. Even 5 stars bust. It happens. It's a risk. You don't know for sure until they actually play in college

Great post. Either Pike is a genius or a riverboat gambler. Yet to be determined
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That's where we differ, Lathan in my eyes was not a typical Big man Freshman.
I felt the risk was not giving him minutes, To play develop and stay.
In this day and age he may not stay his entire time here, at least we have him now, health is a risk for every player every position.
In the meantime we get to watch a special group of 3 frosh this year.
Our risk assessment equation and preparedness equation were at odds.
I will spare you the laughing emoji
Lathan was always going to get minutes this year. That was never a doubt. The difference between having a portal 5 or not is without the transfer we really NEED Lathan to be good as freshman or at least solid. If we had another option, we could survive if Lathan needed a year and if he was a stud from the jump then it's icing on the cake

You dont know until they play though. Loved Lathan as a prospect, but everyone loved Gavin too who was a much higher rated player and turned out to be a complete bust. It happens. Even 5 stars bust. It happens. It's a risk. You don't know for sure until they actually play in college
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Really it can be boiled down to something as simple as there was no need for two of this archetype, and JMike was the younger one and friends with Ace. Derek had his chance to take his leap and failed. He played pretty good D last year but there was always a ceiling how effective he could be on that end due to his skinniness. JMike has a stronger build and was already stellar defensively as a freshman, something Derek was not. Also, even though not really backed up by stats yet but I just feel more comfortable out there with JMike, at least he showcases touch on layups and in the intrasquad scrimmage showcased a floater that I hope to see more of. Then the last thing is it seems people really gravitate towards JMike, where people seemed to not have much respect for Derek last year. Ultimately, JMike had the right connections and more willing to play the current role asked than Derek would have and he at least has a bit of upside to improve
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What exactly was your Lathan take?
I was extremely bullish on Lathan from the time we were recruiting him. Loved his game and skill set

What I said about this season was that it was extremely risky to go into the season with a true freshman and Ogbole at the 5 and wanted a proven portal 5. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity and we should be mitigating risk

Big men aren't typically great as freshman and Lathan might need time to adjust to B1G level bball. I was concerned Lathan needed to reshape his body, but he already made major strides there and almost wasn't recognizable with the fat he dropped

Ogbole was a project that needed a lot of development. Martini I thought could play some spot minutes at the 5 but worried his size would be a real problem in the B1G for extended minutes there.

If Lathan was ready from the jump and/or Ogbole makes a jump it could work out and we would be fine, but it was just too risky, especially if one gets hurt

Ex-NBA player Gilbert Arenas “not impressed” by Cooper Flagg; picks Rutgers’ Ace Bailey instead

I don;t think Flagg is a good shooter and needs lot of work. Yes he can run and jump but I don;t think he is that good yet. I would the would take the other Duke freshman (sharp shooter) as the best player of the freshman.
But he's so good at rebounding, defense, passing. Perhaps his shooting needs work. But he's a special player IMO.

If we had Cliff...

Fab 3 baby!!!
You said No freshman could start or contribute at center!
Lathan has more talent than we have had a center since Jamin James Bailey
Without Cliff clogging up the middle, playing low IQ 1 dimensional ball, This Kid has the opportunity to get minutes to continue to develop and grow.
Fun to watch, did you see that High IQ, over the head pass🔥
Fun to watch, allowing us to be a much better team come February than we ever could have been than with Cliff Taking space and minutes
GO RU!!!
I never said that lol

MINN The Good...and Not so Good

It was clear the defensive staff and players were well prepared. Kudos to them. The defense was in excellent position all game, with 2-3 exceptions. Minnesota does a better job than RU in trying to get the defense out of position but we were so disciplined all game. I'm hoping we don't require a bye week for the defense to be prepared. The next 3 weeks will tell the story.

We've been getting owned all season when the opponent punts. That has to stop. Thank God we finally made the adjustment on the last punt.

KC needs a game plan for the entire game. Just feels like he is good for only a half of football. The plays are so basic and uninspiring. The 2nd TD to Miller was a nice play design. This team needs more of that.
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