Seems like the WCC is just down this year. Gonzaga lost at home to LMU. BYU is bad this year (lost at Pepperdine last night). San Fran isn't good. St Mary's for all the metrics hype did nothing out of conference.
2/6: BACATOLOGY SMORGASBOARD*****RU now a 6 seed as of 2/8
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LMU just replacing BYU as a new western candidate. Admittedly I haven’t seen St. Mary’s play at all. Don’t know what to make of them either. Hofstra and Oral Roberts might both make the tourney. Beat Gonzaga. Did beat Vandy who just beat Tennessee. Played Houston tough. I’m surprised ranked as high as they are too. Wouldn’t mind RU matched up with them.
if they go 1-6 or 0-7 they are out
if they go 2-5 things get dicey probably fall near that 11 seed last 4 in...and have to pick up a win in the Big 10 tourney to avoid disaster
3-4..in no question about it.
so I would say the MAGIC number to assure a bid is 3 which includes Big 10 tournament
While they are a tourney lock, St Marys resume isnt as good as the NET would indicate. Sure great wins over Gonzaga, San Diego State and Oral Roberts but doesnt justify the net of 7. They also have 2 Q3 losses
I agree. Would love to know how NET came up with number. Not a fan of the NET with rankings like this.
There is not much difference from
A 4 or 5 seed . Maybe a weaker first round opponent and you get to wear the home whites in the second round.
Basically beat Minnesota Nebraska and win any other game is where my head was at too.
BAC - what does Wake have to do to punch their ticket? Would not losing to the “trash” and picking up the win @ Cuse do it at 4-2?
I’m no BAC but I play one on TV and I think Wake even at 4-2 will be on pins and needles all selection Sunday. Hope Clemson and NC lose. Think above Tech. State has a tough end of season… Root for Memphis to lose and pray VCU wins A10.
I dont think 4-2 is enough because none of the wins are quality and yes while Cuse would be Q2 no one cares about that
I still contend they have to beat one of Miami or NC State on the road...actually if they lost to Cuse and one of those then that 4-2 would be good enough
otherwise 4-2 with no quality wins means they have work to do in the ACC tourney...like make the finals
Xavier looking bad. Can now see their seed dropping to a 5 or 6 if they don’t come back in this one. Could see them losing to Marquette, SHU and Providence all away. Life to SHU.
Creighton might be the best BE team when all is said and done.
Creighton might be the best BE team when all is said and done.
Well it wouldn’t exactly be no decent wins. No marquis wins. But it would be 20-12 (at worst) on selection day. Wins - Duke, Clemson, @Wisconsin, UNC, VTech, and Georgia. LM neutral loss looking less bad.
Xavier lost to Butler. Let's see more of those potential 4, 5, and 6 seeds go down. Then have RU go 7-0, 6-1 or even 5-2. Then win a couple in the Big Ten tournie and easily could be a 4 seed.
A win tomorrow would go a long way to working our way up to a 4 seed
Currently only one of those is firmly in...3 of them are either in last 4 or projected out
Bubble games on my radar today... Look at how many are on the road: 12 out of 17, plus Clemson/UNC in a cut line battle. Many are favored even as the road team but it should be an interesting day.
UCLA at Oregon (35%)
Indiana at Michigan (48%)
Oklahoma State (32%) at Iowa State
Seton Hall (43%) at Villanova
Utah State (61%) at San Jose State
Mississippi State (28%) at Arkansas
Penn State (27%) at Maryland
Kentucky (65%) at Georgia
Wisconsin (52%) at Nebraska
Clemson at North Carolina (double bubble special)
Texas A&M (68%) at LSU
Virginia Tech (69%) at Notre Dame
Pittsburgh (71%) at Florida State
Vanderbilt at Florida (78%)
USC (75%) at Oregon State
Arizona State (79%) at California
Wyoming at Boise State (91%)
Georgia Tech at Wake Forest (89%)
Expected wins: 10.11 in 17 games plus the Clemson/UNC matchup.
UCLA at Oregon (35%)
Indiana at Michigan (48%)
Oklahoma State (32%) at Iowa State
Seton Hall (43%) at Villanova
Utah State (61%) at San Jose State
Mississippi State (28%) at Arkansas
Penn State (27%) at Maryland
Kentucky (65%) at Georgia
Wisconsin (52%) at Nebraska
Clemson at North Carolina (double bubble special)
Texas A&M (68%) at LSU
Virginia Tech (69%) at Notre Dame
Pittsburgh (71%) at Florida State
Vanderbilt at Florida (78%)
USC (75%) at Oregon State
Arizona State (79%) at California
Wyoming at Boise State (91%)
Georgia Tech at Wake Forest (89%)
Expected wins: 10.11 in 17 games plus the Clemson/UNC matchup.
I get that. But you could say that and more about the MWC bubblers. Their selection day loss counts with winning out are at 7 but several of them play each other so at least a few of them will have 8 or more losses.
Also - Wisconsin has the potential to make a run down the stretch. Look at their schedule. In an odd way, you might say our Wisconsin game seems to loom ahead as an RU resume hedge of sorts. Obviously RU win is great for us. But if Wiscy wins that game and doesn’t lose to Minny or Nebraska that really helps Wake. Wisconsin would then have a possible path not only to lock status but decent seed. The rest of their games are winnable but wouldn’t hurt them to lose.
Wake isnt getting in based on a win over Wisconsin
They need to beat Nc State or Miami on the road or go to the ACC finals
While if I’m Wake I would be very nervous, but no more than the other ACC schools. Not sure it’s so dire they have to get to ACC final. They have beat Duke, Clemson, UNC and Va Tech. Beat Wisconsin. Losses to Loyola Marymount and RU are fine. They could have 20 wins going into the ACC tourney and will probably play any of rivals again. I wouldn’t lose to Cuse. Think they could withstand Miami and State losses on the road.
I’m a Wake fan. Wake needs at least 5-1 to get in.
I would like to see Wake get in. Good program and coach. And some really good players
going into today
FIRST FOUR BYES: OKLAHOMA STATE, WISCONSIN, USC, KENTUCKY
LAST FOUR IN: BOISE STATE, CLEMSON, NEW MEXICO, OREGON
FIRST FOUR OUT: NORTH CAROLINA, MISSISSIPPI STATE, MEMPHIS, TEXAS A&M
NEXT FOUR OUT: SETON HALL, WAKE FOREST, FLORIDA, VIRGINIA TECH
FIRST FOUR BYES: OKLAHOMA STATE, WISCONSIN, USC, KENTUCKY
LAST FOUR IN: BOISE STATE, CLEMSON, NEW MEXICO, OREGON
FIRST FOUR OUT: NORTH CAROLINA, MISSISSIPPI STATE, MEMPHIS, TEXAS A&M
NEXT FOUR OUT: SETON HALL, WAKE FOREST, FLORIDA, VIRGINIA TECH
Michigan really needs that win today to make them a legit NCAA contender
Clemson/UNC biggest impact game of the day...winner takes a temporary spot in the field, loser takes a temporary spot out
UNC waxing Clemson...hurts Clemson more than it helps UNC resume although UNC will end up replacing Clemson for now. Tigers are in a heap of trouble
