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Anyone NOT onboard with Schiano ?
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Not necessarily "off board" but would like to see an OC hired before scheduling my "Schiano 4 Life" tattoo.
I am on board but I need to see the significant changes by year 2, Even in year 1, many of these players are better then they have played and much better than some lower level teams that have found ways to beat P5 teams. I believe he can start the year 2-1, he then has OSU and then 5 conference games that we could find a way to win. he can't lose all 5.
2021 -Again- 2-1 is possible but this year, I am disappointed if we are not.Then Mich and then he needs to at least split the MD and Indy game before OSU and then find 2 more wins the rest of the way.
Anything less than these two seasons and I am officially worried.
But to the OP point- Greg is hitting it out of the park in day 1...this is the type of message this team and school needs. Wishing him the best of luck.
2021 -Again- 2-1 is possible but this year, I am disappointed if we are not.Then Mich and then he needs to at least split the MD and Indy game before OSU and then find 2 more wins the rest of the way.
Anything less than these two seasons and I am officially worried.
But to the OP point- Greg is hitting it out of the park in day 1...this is the type of message this team and school needs. Wishing him the best of luck.
This is the second honeymoon period. People are on board the wagon, but their butts are dangling off. At the first hiccup in September 2020, there will be people jumping off the wagon and tearing into him. It’s just the nature of the beast.
I'm with Coach until the end of days, no matter the results. In his 11 years, I can honestly say he always gave me hope and confidence even with some disappointing seasons and games. The outpouring of support yesterday could not happen with any other Coach.
Once again I have hope and confidence. I look forward to the recruiting, Spring and Fall practices and the games. There will come a day when the huge talent disparity with most of the rest of the Conference is gone and Rutgers is playing competitive football. That may take 2 years with help from the transfer portal or it may take 5 years. Putting time aside, I'm good and I have confidence Coach will rebuild this program brick by brick.
Once again I have hope and confidence. I look forward to the recruiting, Spring and Fall practices and the games. There will come a day when the huge talent disparity with most of the rest of the Conference is gone and Rutgers is playing competitive football. That may take 2 years with help from the transfer portal or it may take 5 years. Putting time aside, I'm good and I have confidence Coach will rebuild this program brick by brick.
What does "on board with Schiano" mean?
If it means that we want him to be successful as our head coach, then yes. I am on board.
If it means that we have no concerns about whether he can be successful, then no.
If it means that we agree with him that people in NJ are sharper than people in Tennessee, then yes, obviously.
I think everyone, even people who wanted to take more of a 'wait and see' approach, was aware that Schiano was going to kill it at his presser. Whatever his faults may have been as a coach the first time around, getting a room behind him and generating excitement were not among them.
I think we will find out when the talk slows down and the season tickets/donations decision come around. $$$$
Given how deplorable we've been, of course everyone is excited for a change. But to say GS was a good game day coach during his previous stint at RU, or was successful in his positions in the NFL and Ohio State would be clear hyperbole. I'm hopeful he's improved since leaving RU, but to say he will move RU into a consistent top 25 team at this point is pure, unadulterated conjecture.
I still have serious doubts. In 11 years previously he peaked at the Papa John's bowl. I hope he proves me wrong and gets to a New Year's Day Bowl but nothing in his history has shown that he can do that.
ALL IN to me is seeing significantly more season ticket purchased for next season, more money being donated, more students at the games, etc., not necessarily wins and losses right away(although we want that of course). My hope is that it takes less than 5 years to get to a bowl, but I'm willing to be patient, but we must see those first things right away.
Count me as one who was not gung ho about Schiano returning, but was also never against the hire.
Now that all the sausage-making is done and he's been hired, I'm excited to move forward into next year. I was definitely debating not renewing my season tickets as the weeks of coaching search dragged on, but now I'm energized to get going.
I'm also engaged again - watching videos and reading articles, etc. I hadn't really had any interest in any of that the last two seasons, though I did watch about half of Campanile's post-game pressers. I'm hopeful that Schiano can get the recruiting bus rolling on an accelerated pace for next year, but moreso that he can take the talent we have and mold it into something better. Looking forward to how he fills out his staff given the larger salary pool.
Now that all the sausage-making is done and he's been hired, I'm excited to move forward into next year. I was definitely debating not renewing my season tickets as the weeks of coaching search dragged on, but now I'm energized to get going.
I'm also engaged again - watching videos and reading articles, etc. I hadn't really had any interest in any of that the last two seasons, though I did watch about half of Campanile's post-game pressers. I'm hopeful that Schiano can get the recruiting bus rolling on an accelerated pace for next year, but moreso that he can take the talent we have and mold it into something better. Looking forward to how he fills out his staff given the larger salary pool.
My ticket group went from 14 to 2 during Ash days....
Will be at least 8 next season....clawing our way back
Suspect many others doing same...
All In here.......
Will be at least 8 next season....clawing our way back
Suspect many others doing same...
All In here.......
My ticket group was as large as 12, and dwindled to zero this past season. I've heard from everyone, and we are still at zero for next season. The big barrier is we've discovered other things to do on autumn weekends. And next year, between Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and a wedding that most of us are invited to, we already know we would miss at least three games.
I sent in a deposit for season tix. Looks like I'll be back in the stadium for the first time since 2017. Not expecting a miracle season in 2020, but I feel like there might be things worth watching.
I might even put a block R back in my avatar at some point!
I might even put a block R back in my avatar at some point!
i've made my intentions very clear in the crow thread... just to be even MORE clear.. i'm on the fence it it were which is why i put the bet out there for anyone to accept.. real crow after season 2 (regular is over) if we bowl.. then I eat a crow.. otherwise who ever takes the bet, and if we don't bowl, they have to eat a real crow
90 percent of the roster will likely be Ash recruits so I don't expect a bowl next year. Maybe we can eek out 4 wins. Is anyone really expecting us to get to 6 ? That's pie in the sky, imo
2 years of classes and walk-ons/JUCO's can make a YUGE difference!!!.. it's more like 55%
What coach who would have come here does this generic statement not apply to?
Also, THE FACT he took this school, with zero history of accomplishment at the major level to #7 in the Nation proves he can do it, so you are incorrect.
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I’ll look for nothing but good football players.
When I saw guys like Brian Leonard, Tres Moses, Shawn Tucker, the McCourtey brothers take the field and still lose, I was happy...because I knew things were a changing.
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No it’s not, the correct response is their is no coach alive you wouldn’t have concerns about being successful
Aren’t you kinda agreeing with him...
You have concerns and he has concerns.
I think you’re both saying, in our case in what the Rutgers job entails, that guy doesn’t exist....where there would be NO concerns.
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agreed.. every coach has their risks and limits.. RU fans that though that MAYBE we could snag Urban are just way out there... but at the same time to think that Schiano is the answer is neither... everything has risk/reward.. can Schiano do it?.. we'll find out
Technically I agree.
But I can assure you, the last thing on my mind is failure or concern.
To me this analogy applies.
“What time does your flight land”
“10 am if we don’t crash”
Zap -- I have more concerns about Schiano's potential for success than you do. And I think we both agree that both of us will be much happier if I am wrong and you are right.
Really, not even way back in your mind. Just a teeny tiny little bit?
I mean come on, who are we fans of here? Haven’t we seen it all and you’re saying you have absolutely none...not even a little sliver of doubt?
Like it or not he's the coach. Support the coach and team. Next complaint check in should be in 3 years when you can assess direction of progress. Before then, I would suggest say nothing because this rebuild will not be pretty at times in the short term given caliber of team composition as it currently is made up.
That’s correct, however I think GS has a far better chance of success than any other coach who would have agreed to come here
Bold Prediction
He will be snatched up by a marquee program if he goes .500.
He could even replace Belichik at if he retires.
He has a handicap of +6 so if he wins 6 games, it is equivalent to winning 12 games which makes him a one hot property.
Schiano is the only one who gets such a high handicap because Rutgers has been so bad for 150 years.
That's why he took this job so he can go on to his plum job: Either Penn State or New England.
He will be snatched up by a marquee program if he goes .500.
He could even replace Belichik at if he retires.
He has a handicap of +6 so if he wins 6 games, it is equivalent to winning 12 games which makes him a one hot property.
Schiano is the only one who gets such a high handicap because Rutgers has been so bad for 150 years.
That's why he took this job so he can go on to his plum job: Either Penn State or New England.
I wouldn’t go that far but as I have said numerous times on here any slight success we have here is the equivalent of something much bigger elsewhere.
So you are right about that part.
Sounds like your Dad, zap!
OK, I was one of the people, like Choppin, who thought that there were better hires out there, but always said we would be happy with Schiano.
To me, GS has already delivered on a couple of the real positives. One is that he has gotten great buy in by the University and the State. He has gotten what he needs in terms of assistants' money. To me, that is 100% key. Two is that his speech at his announcement addressed the biggest concern I had about him: Has he grown as a coach and will he delegate? Now, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but I think he is off to a very strong start.
And I'm an RU fan, so I'd have been all in no matter whom we hired.
(And for my friends with a literary inclination, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating," is how the phrase goes. If you think about it, "The proof is in the pudding" doesn't make any sense. "The proof of the pudding is in the eating" means that if it doesn't taste good, the looks of it don't matter. One final thing, "pudding" is used in the UK sense, and its meaning is closer to desert than Bill Cosby's stuff. Any desert that is at all wet is called "pudding" in the UK.)
All In and believe Schiano will get us to a New Years Day Bowl game by year 4-5...If Greg gets a top OC/ DC , along with a staff of solid recruiters and position coaches , his 2nd coming leads to what we all hope for going forward... I remember Greg Schiano early in his first stint saying on the weekly radio show. ” When we have 7-8 NFL caliber players in each class we will compete for Championships “ ... I would assume he would say we need 11-12 ( each class ) in order to compete equally with those in our Eastern Division...Can’t wait to see who he can bring in late and the Spring game in April.
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