Ash Explains Why He Hasn't Hired Assistants Yet

[speclk19]

Some good quotes in this article from earlier today: http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ach_chris_ash_focused_on_finding_right_a.html

Small detail, but I really like that he's putting the importance of finding the strength coach right up there with Defensive Coordinator. Further evidence that he has a solid plan for building the program.

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[kupuna133]

This guy gets it. He is going to hire a hungry no nonsense staff. It is about hiring his personal dream team rather than just hiring to fill a staff. His first 2 hires may not have been the sexiest hires from a name recognition standpoint but I can see 16-18 year olds getting excited to play for a young coach like Mehringer.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

"Ash said he has "a list of four or five deep at basically each position." And he's had a non-stop stream of coaches contacting him to inquire about landing a position on his staff. Now, Ash's task is reaching out to the candidates on his list and piecing together a staff that will produce the right fit. ...


Ash's next hire will likely be a strength coach, which could be announced as early as Friday afternoon. "It's as important as anything," Ash said. "If I got a head coaching job, I knew right away what I was going to do with the strength coach. There wasn't a lot of discussion about it. We came to a pretty quick agreement."

With Mehringer in place, there could be offensive position coaches hired shortly as well. But Ash's top priority is finding a defensive coordinator. While he wouldn't reveal any candidates, he is clearly excited about the possibilities that exist."

Wow. It's difficult to not be excited by the things Ash says so far. He seems incredibly well-prepared. I couldn't be more excited for the future of the program.

 

[sharkunit]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

 

[RU2055]

Alignment

 

[mildone]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

Mrs. Golden?

 

[kupuna133]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

I guess you have never seen success at a young age. There were many times in my career where I was managing people much older than me. It doesn't matter how young a person is but rather how much respect, knowledge and expertise they have. Everything that I have read about Mehringer has been positive.

 

[vkj91]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

Oklahomans OC is 32 and came from East Carolina. How did Oklahoma find guys to work for him? Oh, he also won the Broyles award this year.

 

[newell138]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

I LOVE the fact that he is young, hungry, prepared. He has a good rep. Its a tight community and I'm sure he has plenty of guys that want to come work in the BIG in this market to boost their own resumes and advance.

I guess if Bill Gates asked you to come work for him back in the day, you would have said no thanks.

 

[RUskoolie]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

You need to move past age. If someone is qualified and smart, then they are qualified and smart. Being 50 doesn't make you a good coach or employee for that matter.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

I can't stop laughing at this post! Please tell me you were being sarcastic

 

[MoobyCow]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

Hopefully we can keep the Hofstra pipeline going.

 

[RURM85]

I'm enjoying this thread.

 

[kupuna133]

Hopefully we can keep the Hofstra pipeline going.

Exactly what I was thinking. Previous coaching staff did not have the best pedigree but I guess they were older so that should mean something. AAC is a step up compared to the IVY, Patriot and whatever conference Maine plays in.

 

[RURM85]

I have no issue whatsoever that he's filled 2 out of the 9 assistant jobs. Make the right hire, as opposed to the quick hire. Ash is doing this the right way and evaluating his options to obtain the right fits. The staff will have approx. 1 month after the bowl season to get out there and recruit as a group. Rushing leads to mistakes.

 

[Knight Shift]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

Meg Whitman made a bad move going to work for Ebay, when it was run by a young 31 year old kid. Worked out horribly for her. She is a total failure and regrets the decision.

 

[MozRU]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

College coaching is not like your typical office or even your typical constructions site - age matter more than anything in hierarchy.

Its a fraternity. Besides the HC, they all look at each other like 25year drinking buddies doing what they love.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

Hopefully we can keep the Hofstra pipeline going.

Oh my that is going to be a problem - may be able to find a few - but these precious puzzle pieces are going to be hard to obtain - Hofstra gave up football in 2009 - searching out coaches with that cherished Hofstra lineage will start to be like trying to find parts for a Nash Rambler.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Some good quotes in this article from earlier today: http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ach_chris_ash_focused_on_finding_right_a.html

Small detail, but I really like that he's putting the importance of finding the strength coach right up there with Defensive Coordinator. Further evidence that he has a solid plan for building the program.

Hey saying all the right coaching cliches. What coach isn't building a program or doesn't want a coaching staff that works together. The problem is how can you build a program while still working for Ohio State. It like me saying I am building a house then spend half my time working on my neighbors house. In the end every minute he spends at OSU is a minute he loses building his own program. While he wasting time preparing to beat Notre Dame other staffs are working hard recruiting and building staffs. Meanwhile Rutgers recruits sit and wait trying to find out who will be coaching them. It may be the dead period but your still allowed to talk to and write recruits.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

yeah youth in a leadership position is clearly a detriment...just look at all those ensigns and 2nd lieutenants the military academies pump out...oh wait...

 

[RUMBA-JK]

What established position coach wants to come work for an OC that's a 28 year old ex aac wr coach? I'd think it will be tough to fill these slots on the offensive side given the ego of man

"What established position coach...."??? - actual the only kind that you would want - one that is well grounded enough that they can look beyond a 'date-of-birth' and see the strategic mind that is at work, see potential - - - think about the kinds of guys who in 1963 were willing to sign on to work for a 33 year old first time Head Coach - Don Shula of the Baltimore Colts
- if a guy's ego prevents him from working for somebody purely because of their age - you don't want them.
- the right guys will meet with Mehringer & will say "I want in" - - the right guys can smell talent.

 

[MoobyCow]

"What established position coach...."??? .

I look at that and think to myself, that no one should hire established position coaches. You know what makes you an established position coach? Being not very good at your job or having very little drive, or a combination of both. If you're good and driven you move on from being a position coach after a couple of years.

 

[NickKnight 1]

I look at that and think to myself, that no one should hire established position coaches. You know what makes you an established position coach? Being not very good at your job or having very little drive, or a combination of both. If you're good and driven you move on from being a position coach after a couple of years.

Peter principle.

 

[czxqa]

Meg Whitman made a bad move going to work for Ebay, when it was run by a young 31 year old kid. Worked out horribly for her. She is a total failure and regrets the decision.

It actually took me a moment to register the sarcasm on that one. My first reaction was "WTF is he talking about?..... Oh, he means the opposite!"

 

[jay_hq]

I look at that and think to myself, that no one should hire established position coaches. You know what makes you an established position coach? Being not very good at your job or having very little drive, or a combination of both. If you're good and driven you move on from being a position coach after a couple of years.

Unless your name is Kyle Flood! You just keep getting promoted for no real reason. He went from good (questionable) OLine coach to a really bad offensive coordinator to head coach.

 

[RUChoppin]

"What established position coach...."??? - actual the only kind that you would want - one that is well grounded enough that they can look beyond a 'date-of-birth' and see the strategic mind that is at work, see potential - - - think about the kinds of guys who in 1963 were willing to sign on to work for a 33 year old first time Head Coach - Don Shula of the Baltimore Colts
- if a guy's ego prevents him from working for somebody purely because of their age - you don't want them.
- the right guys will meet with Mehringer & will say "I want in" - - the right guys can smell talent.

Very much this. Age is only a factor for people you don't want to hire.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

I really liked this point that he passed along -

"I'm trying to hire some people that may be in bowl games or in the NFL, so it's going to take a little bit longer."

Don't see Ash as a guy to blow smoke - or play BS games - he will keep it zipped if he does not want to discuss it - and he will share a bit if he wants to give you a glimpse at what he is working on.

So either way - he is culling through a pool of potential staffers that is far far above what has been considered before.... and they will come with winning pedigrees.

 

[czxqa]

Unless your name is Kyle Flood! You just keep getting promoted for no real reason. He went from good (questionable) OLine coach to a really bad offensive coordinator to head coach.

He was never an offensive coordinator. The whole "co-coordinator" and "Assoc. Head Coach" title things were just done so Schiano could get him more money. All he ever did was coach the o-line.

 

[RUforester72]

When Oregon hired Chip Kelly as OC, he was at U New Hampshire. Everyone starts somewhere and you never know where the next start may be found.

 

[RutgHoops]

Hey saying all the right coaching cliches. What coach isn't building a program or doesn't want a coaching staff that works together. The problem is how can you build a program while still working for Ohio State. It like me saying I am building a house then spend half my time working on my neighbors house. In the end every minute he spends at OSU is a minute he loses building his own program. While he wasting time preparing to beat Notre Dame other staffs are working hard recruiting and building staffs. Meanwhile Rutgers recruits sit and wait trying to find out who will be coaching them. It may be the dead period but your still allowed to talk to and write recruits.

Them's the rules if you want the opportunity to coach under Urban Meyer. You stay until the last game is played. Tom Herman stayed on last year after Houston hired him.. Everett Withers stayed in 2013 after he got the JMU HC job and stayed on for the Orange Bowl. Goes back to Florida as Charlie Strong stayed to coach the Sugar Bowl after getting the HC job at Louisville.

Franklin nor Schiano nor 99% of HC's in CFB can make that a condition of employment. Urban can and he does because his guys get HC jobs and succeed at them at very high rates (Herman, Strong, Andersen, Whittingham, Withers, etc.). You want to work for Urban Meyer on his staff you respect and adhere to his rules.

 

[NickKnight 1]

He was never an offensive coordinator. The whole "co-coordinator" and "Assoc. Head Coach" title things were just done so Schiano could get him more money. All he ever did was coach the o-line.

And new Hampshire bea

When Oregon hired Chip Kelly as OC, he was at U New Hampshire. Everyone starts somewhere and you never know where the next start may be found.

And the guy he beat while at New Hampshire, went to Ohio ST.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I'm becoming happier and happier with this hire on a daily basis.

 

[StyleKnight]

Keeping my fingers and toes crossed that Pettine gets fired!

 

[mildone]

I'm becoming happier and happier with this hire on a daily basis.

I feel Ash was a solid hire for RU. He comes with a resume that describes lots of prior success at his job. Based in equal parts on what he's said and what's been said about him, he seems organized, flexible, focused and driven. And it appears like he has a very good football mind. So far, I'm encouraged by his coaching hires and by his sense of ethics.

I'm not going to stake out a position on him until I see at least a full season's body of work. For one thing, I think it's premature to do so - just not enough evidence yet. For another, I can't see any advantage to staking out a position in advance.

But as you say (or at least as I took what you said to mean), the signs are, IMO, very positive at this point.

 

[RUbacker]

I LOVE the fact that he is young, hungry, prepared. He has a good rep. Its a tight community and I'm sure he has plenty of guys that want to come work in the BIG in this market to boost their own resumes and advance.

I guess if Bill Gates asked you to come work for him back in the day, you would have said no thanks.

I love how everyone on thus board is now using the same talking points. Like hungry. Lol have to laugh sorry.

 

[rudad02]

This guy makes way too much sense. How did he end up here? [ha,ha]

 

[knightfan7]

Oklahomans OC is 32 and came from East Carolina. How did Oklahoma find guys to work for him? Oh, he also won the Broyles award this year.

Isn't the Dolphins new OC 31 or 32?

People , even the Schianoites, forget Greg was the youngest HC in D1 CFB when he took the RU job. How'd that work out?

BTW, when I clicked on the link I received an "Unsafe Site" warning from my anti virus. NJ.com unsafe? Hell, I could have told them that.

 

[T2Kplus10]

Hey saying all the right coaching cliches. What coach isn't building a program or doesn't want a coaching staff that works together. The problem is how can you build a program while still working for Ohio State. It like me saying I am building a house then spend half my time working on my neighbors house. In the end every minute he spends at OSU is a minute he loses building his own program. While he wasting time preparing to beat Notre Dame other staffs are working hard recruiting and building staffs. Meanwhile Rutgers recruits sit and wait trying to find out who will be coaching them. It may be the dead period but your still allowed to talk to and write recruits.

Exactly, look at all the problems this caused Herman and Houston last year!
:rolleyes:

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I feel Ash was a solid hire for RU. He comes with a resume that describes lots of prior success at his job. Based in equal parts on what he's said and what's been said about him, he seems organized, flexible, focused and driven. And it appears like he has a very good football mind. So far, I'm encouraged by his coaching hires and by his sense of ethics.

I'm not going to stake out a position on him until I see at least a full season's body of work. For one thing, I think it's premature to do so - just not enough evidence yet. For another, I can't see any advantage to staking out a position in advance.

But as you say (or at least as I took what you said to mean), the signs are, IMO, very positive at this point.

I didn't say he's going to be a great coach, and I can always change my opinion, lol, just saying I like the hire more by the day. He knows what it takes to be a winner, there is no doubt, so let's hope he gets it done!