Baseball opponent FGCU's roster

[Mr_Twister]

Worth noting that opponent FGCU baseball is playing for keeps. They swept the series.
FGCU has a far different, more aggressive approach to roster and lineup building than Rutgers.
FGCU roster includes student/athletes from these JUCOs -- West Georgia CC, East Florida State College, Seminole State College (2), Broward College, Kansas City Kansas CC, State College of Florida, ASA College, CC of Rhode Island, Gulf Coast State College, Indian River State.
Rutgers has transfers from baseball powers Rhode Island and NJIT.
Rutgers has to step it up building their roster and lineup, or drop programs like FGCU from our schedule that rely on JUCOs. JUCOs are more mature and proven commodities, baseball-wise. FGCU uses JUCOs like farm teams for their Div-1 squad.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

You're ridiculous. you really are, comparing OUR roster to a school in baseball-crazy Florida. How many times do you - and others - have to be told that it's nearly impossible to get JUCO's into RU let alone load a roster with them? SMDH

 

[Mr_Twister]

Check the baseball rosters at Indiana and Nebraska and Michigan. It is OK for Big Ten baseball programs to recruit aggressively, and that includes significant transfers and JUCOs and student athletes who do not live within an hour of the campus. Someone needs to deliver the news to our head coach. Roster and lineup building tactics have to improve exponentially. We are not being resourceful enough. And that includes assistant coaches as well.

 

[WhichReligionIsRight]

Imagine what RU baseball could be if we didn't play our first 20 or 30 games on the road (minus maybe 2 or 3 games).

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Check the baseball rosters at Indiana and Nebraska and Michigan. It is OK for Big Ten baseball programs to recruit aggressively, and that includes significant transfers and JUCOs and student athletes who do not live within an hour of the campus. Someone needs to deliver the news to our head coach. Roster and lineup building tactics have to improve exponentially. We are not being resourceful enough. And that includes assistant coaches as well.

You really don't get it, do you? I don't care about the other schools, I'm talking about our school, it is almost impossible to get JUCO's into Rutgers. We've been over this 1 million times yet you and a few other people simply don't want to believe it. It's unfortunate, I agree, but it's just the way it is for now And has been for a long time.

 

[biazza38]

Worth noting that opponent FGCU baseball is playing for keeps. They swept the series.
FGCU has a far different, more aggressive approach to roster and lineup building than Rutgers.
FGCU roster includes student/athletes from these JUCOs -- West Georgia CC, East Florida State College, Seminole State College (2), Broward College, Kansas City Kansas CC, State College of Florida, ASA College, CC of Rhode Island, Gulf Coast State College, Indian River State.
Rutgers has transfers from baseball powers Rhode Island and NJIT.
Rutgers has to step it up building their roster and lineup, or drop programs like FGCU from our schedule that rely on JUCOs. JUCOs are more mature and proven commodities, baseball-wise. FGCU uses JUCOs like farm teams for their Div-1 squad.

Florida Gulf coast is an incredibly beautiful campus. Please do not compare our recruiting to theirs.

 

[dollarbill]

Florida Gulf coast is an incredibly beautiful campus. Please do not compare our recruiting to theirs.

Just ask all the Hertz employees who moved from Mahwah how nice it is. 80 degrees and sunny today. Batter up! $$$$

 

[Mr_Twister]

The way the Rutgers baseball program pulls together staff and roster needs major upgrade. We can not compete this way. Compare our roster and staff with other Big Ten programs. We are way behind the curve, as per usual. The current team would struggle against NJ's Div-III teams, let alone the Big Ten. The JUCO reluctance is nonsense ... Rutgers admits many non-athlete 2-year transfers. The coach and AD can make it happen. Every JUCO athlete is not a Phys Ed major.

 

[biazza38]

The way the Rutgers baseball program pulls together staff and roster needs major upgrade. We can not compete this way. Compare our roster and staff with other Big Ten programs. We are way behind the curve, as per usual. The current team would struggle against NJ's Div-III teams, let alone the Big Ten. The JUCO reluctance is nonsense ... Rutgers admits many non-athlete 2-year transfers. The coach and AD can make it happen. Every JUCO athlete is not a Phys Ed major.

Some of our recent nj commits haven't exactly panned out.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

The way the Rutgers baseball program pulls together staff and roster needs major upgrade. We can not compete this way. Compare our roster and staff with other Big Ten programs. We are way behind the curve, as per usual. The current team would struggle against NJ's Div-III teams, let alone the Big Ten. The JUCO reluctance is nonsense ... Rutgers admits many non-athlete 2-year transfers. The coach and AD can make it happen. Every JUCO athlete is not a Phys Ed major.

Now I know you're a complete tool.

 

[Abro1975]

Rutgers dropped a home game against Rider today, 7-2.

J Harris went 2-3 with 3 Stolen bases. Also was walked twice, so on base 4-5 today.

http://www.scarletknights.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2016-2017/ru20.html

 

[huskersalways]

The way the Rutgers baseball program pulls together staff and roster needs major upgrade. We can not compete this way. Compare our roster and staff with other Big Ten programs. We are way behind the curve, as per usual. The current team would struggle against NJ's Div-III teams, let alone the Big Ten. The JUCO reluctance is nonsense ... Rutgers admits many non-athlete 2-year transfers. The coach and AD can make it happen. Every JUCO athlete is not a Phys Ed major.

Juco kids in baseball are different than the typical football/basketball juco. The majority of fb/bb juco's are there because of qualifying issues. In baseball about 90% of the jucos are there to get exposure and better coaching. Many come from non traditional baseball areas that are not recruited. A lot of them come from places that don't have high school ball and have only played Legion ball so being noticed of getting their skills refined is more difficult. They take classes to be able to attend any 4 year school that allows jucos. Nebraska has a few jucos on their roster and non of them are PE majors and came in with very good academic records. Juco's for baseball is a very good way to boost a roster even if you only get them for a year with the Jr. draft.

 

[biazza38]

Rutgers dropped a home game against Rider today, 7-2.

J Harris went 2-3 with 3 Stolen bases. Also was walked twice, so on base 4-5 today.

http://www.scarletknights.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2016-2017/ru20.html

I wish we had a more competitive team. It's a shame. We have zero pitching. We recruited some talented pitchers from NJ the last two years, but they aren't doing so hot right now :(

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I wish we had a more competitive team. It's a shame. We have zero pitching. We recruited some talented pitchers from NJ the last two years, but they aren't doing so hot right now :(

No doubt The young kids are taking their lumps...let's hope just for now...gotta hit against Rider though UNLESS they threw their #1 against us? Not familiar.

 

[ruready07]

You're ridiculous. you really are, comparing OUR roster to a school in baseball-crazy Florida. How many times do you - and others - have to be told that it's nearly impossible to get JUCO's into RU let alone load a roster with them? SMDH

He is also saying that if we don't want to step up our roster building that we shouldn't schedule programs that take the game way more seriously.

thats an important point he is making and it shouldn't be ignored.

 

[biazza38]

He is also saying that if we don't want to step up our roster building that we shouldn't schedule programs that take the game way more seriously.

thats an important point he is making and it shouldn't be ignored.

Good point. Frankly our schedule was ridiculous this year. It's one thing to schedule Miami every year and another top 25 team, but we had Miami, UVA, ODU, and Florida Gulf coast. Completely unnecessary. Let the young pitchers work on a few things before conference play. Very idiotic. I don't see how we benefit from that type of schedule when we can't even figure out a rotation.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Juco kids in baseball are different than the typical football/basketball juco. The majority of fb/bb juco's are there because of qualifying issues. In baseball about 90% of the jucos are there to get exposure and better coaching. Many come from non traditional baseball areas that are not recruited. A lot of them come from places that don't have high school ball and have only played Legion ball so being noticed of getting their skills refined is more difficult. They take classes to be able to attend any 4 year school that allows jucos. Nebraska has a few jucos on their roster and non of them are PE majors and came in with very good academic records. Juco's for baseball is a very good way to boost a roster even if you only get them for a year with the Jr. draft.

Thank you. Rutgers needs to get onboard. The baseball JUCOs are proven commodities and more mature. FGCU toyed with Rutgers. Check their roster, coaches and players. Compare their head coach's bio with our's. FGCU's roster has size and muscle and pitching. A SS from Puerto Rico. Ignore the twit whose contribution to this thread is that the status quo is OK and JUCOs are out of the question.

 

[CuredbywinningRU]

Of course we'd love to recruit the same players as FGCU but they're in FL(where everyone wants to play and where HS baseball is top notch), have lower academic standards, nice facility, which compared to FSU, UF etc. isn't great, but compared to ours is spectacular (I've been there for a game)

 

[Mr_Twister]

Of course we'd love to recruit the same players as FGCU but they're in FL(where everyone wants to play and where HS baseball is top notch), have lower academic standards, nice facility, which compared to FSU, UF etc. isn't great, but compared to ours is spectacular (I've been there for a game)

We need to recruit and land JUCOs and transfers and out-of-state players like other Big Ten programs. The days of provincial recruiting are history.

 

[RUsince52]

Good point. Frankly our schedule was ridiculous this year. It's one thing to schedule Miami every year and another top 25 team, but we had Miami, UVA, ODU, and Florida Gulf coast. Completely unnecessary. Let the young pitchers work on a few things before conference play. Very idiotic. I don't see how we benefit from that type of schedule when we can't even figure out a rotation.

When you're giving up 7-10 runs per game, the pitchers are interchangeable and it doesn't matter so much. Shouldn't have a combined ERA of over 7 for a major college team.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Tonight heading to see 11-13 Miami at #9-ranked FGCU at Swanson Stadium. 11-13 is very unMiami-like. FGCU is dominating Florida Div-1 baseball this year. FGCU is a 20-year old university.

 

[RUJMM78]

Recruiting is the difference maker in winning and losing.In the northeast its hard to attract top tier recruits because of the weather.Scheduling so many games out of state to start every season always puts Rutgers in a very difficult position establishing a winning season.Rutgers has no recruiting base to draw from and unless a new head coach has recruiting ties in the NY.NJ Metro area ,the future of the baseball program will remain bleak.The difficulty in getting jucos into Rutgers has been ongoing for decades and obviously hurts when rival schools don't have similar problems.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Rutgers head coach and/or staff needs to include experience that includes time spent coaching from the Richmond, VA area on down south. The current staff's geographic recruiting reach can probably be measured in NJ counties and Staten Island, NY. Chances of landing players, particularly pitchers, from other baseball-rich areas is next to nil. Recruiting players from FL, VA, NC, TX, and CA has to be part of the formula. And maybe throw in a recruit from Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, or Cuba for good measure. The last suggestion is not as odd as it sounds. NJ has a large Hispanic population.

 

[JimmyJack39]

Recruiting is the difference maker in winning and losing.In the northeast its hard to attract top tier recruits because of the weather.Scheduling so many games out of state to start every season always puts Rutgers in a very difficult position establishing a winning season.Rutgers has no recruiting base to draw from and unless a new head coach has recruiting ties in the NY.NJ Metro area ,the future of the baseball program will remain bleak.The difficulty in getting jucos into Rutgers has been ongoing for decades and obviously hurts when rival schools don't have similar problems.

It is difficult, but it can be done. RU throughout the late 90's, early 2000's was very, very good. And St.John's is top 10 in the country right now. In the Big East. These all sound like excuses. RU could certainly be a legitimate contender in the B1G year in and year out.

 

[huskersalways]

It is difficult, but it can be done. RU throughout the late 90's, early 2000's was very, very good. And St.John's is top 10 in the country right now. In the Big East. These all sound like excuses. RU could certainly be a legitimate contender in the B1G year in and year out.

I agree with this. While yes, the Southern schools have a huge advantage but there is no reason Northern teams can't be competitive. It's up to the schools on whether or not they want to emphasise the sport to make it better. Many Big 10 schools have finally started putting some money into their programs and it shows. Look at some of the ballparks in the Big 10 now. Schools are spending on facilities, stadiums, and coaches. The Big 10 is improving yearly. Recruiting is up at schools that have decided to put the effort in. Will they always be behind the Southern schools some? Absolutely. But this "we can't compete with the Southern schools" is complete bullshit. That's an athletic departments excuse to not spend on trying to compete. Big 10 baseball is finally on the upswing from a national perception, it has a long ways to go to be good, but it is finally being taken serious by the schools.

If a school want to limp along then they should drop the program all together.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Compare Nebraska's roster and staff with Rutgers. Players from Puerto Rico, multiple from California, Virginia, multiple from Pennsylvania, North Carolina. Multiple Midwest states. Head coach with serious baseball credentials, including Major Leagues. Nebraska is competing. We are participating.

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPID=33&SPSID=104