So easy for other big ten teams to sign up for home and homes
Big Ten non-conference scheduling for 23-24, a running thread of scheduled games
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I heard the fax machine at the Rutgers Athletic offices are not working and thus we're not being notified of opportunities for OOC games
The biggest problem is opponents are scared of JMA and Rutgers doesn't want to go on the road if they don't want to play us in our gym rightfully so. Takes two to tango.
So Arizona and Tennessee are both scared of playing at Rutgers but not scared of playing at Wisconsin? You don't actually believe your own BS, do you?
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Well we're 0 for the first 3 names. Let's hope the fourth name you listed will be the one who is in scarlet this season.
No excuses for our historic weak scheduling, but this season we’re in a bit of a pickle because of the SHU and Wake road commitments. We’re not going to schedule 3 true road games against high majors. That limits the home and home options to whoever is willing to visit us first.
Kohl Center is a cavern. Not scary place to play at all. Also given it's size Arizona and Tennessee will prob get plenty of fans to travel to the games as well. A better comparison would be, how many teams will play Villanova on campus in their 6500 seat arena?
That's an even worse comparison considering they play all their "big" games at the Wells Fargo Center. We don't have a second home court.
The refusal to admit that Rutgers schedules different than the other 13 teams is mind boggling.
If you win the games it doesn't matter. NET is skewed for road wins and blowouts. If you play bad teams you get the blowouts to boost the NET.
Wouldn't it be more fun as a fan to be in literally ANY of the holiday tournaments the other Big Ten teams are playing in? Wouldn't the players like it a lot better?
Play to the system that will put you in best position in March. Everything else is secondary. If the NET is the primary metric, everything needs to be done to ensure that it remains high.
TCU and Tech Tech scheduled 9 each, Texas, Baylor and Kansas St scheduled 7 last year, but they have 18 conference, 13 game non conference. Scheduling 7 low major teams out of 11, UMass Lowell became better than projected, automatically puts you behind an 8Ball before they play one game. The 3 opponents you thought were good opponents don't end up being good, like Temple, Seton Hall and Wake with Miami in ACC/B1G, and you end up having an anchor like Minnesota in conference you lose once to was the downfall.
Right now, Georgetown, 2023-24 T-Rank 160, SHU T-rank 52, and Wake, T-Rank 60, are the givens but not projected tourny teams next year. They have to keep the low majors to 4 or 5, at most, with 2/3 solid mid majors and one more P6 to not be behind an 8ball again with little wiggle room in conference again with Minnesota and Penn St possibly not being good in 2023-24.
Right now, Georgetown, 2023-24 T-Rank 160, SHU T-rank 52, and Wake, T-Rank 60, are the givens but not projected tourny teams next year. They have to keep the low majors to 4 or 5, at most, with 2/3 solid mid majors and one more P6 to not be behind an 8ball again with little wiggle room in conference again with Minnesota and Penn St possibly not being good in 2023-24.
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Haven’t looked in detail, but know IU opens with Pat Chambers’ FGCU team. I guess they were pretty good last year. Also saw here in this thread will play 2 of these 3
In NYC: TX, UConn, Louisville
IU will also play In Atlanta vs Auburn and hosts Kansas. That’s all I’ve heard thus far.
PU will be in a great field in Maui and hosts Xavier.
I like this thread tracking league members OOC games.
In NYC: TX, UConn, Louisville
IU will also play In Atlanta vs Auburn and hosts Kansas. That’s all I’ve heard thus far.
PU will be in a great field in Maui and hosts Xavier.
I like this thread tracking league members OOC games.
Northwestern and Arizona State just signed home and home for next 2 years at neutral courts. Keep hearing Rutgers is trying to do the same. Stay tuned!
all this effort and still nothing speaks loudest….it can’t be this difficult…
It isn't true. We have among the weakest OOC in the league generally but aren't some huge outlier.
You can say that we’ve been “lucky “with the exception of the year the tourney was cancelled. Even then we got lucky with SFA being much better than expected. That schedule was set up to be worse and it already competed with worst in the nation.
You need luck when your strategy is 3-4 real game combo with cupcakes. If those 3-4 teams all turn to be busts your bad schedule can really stand out. During Pike’s tenure, SHU has been better than they’d been previously. If they have some down years that really hurts our schedule strength out of conference if we pick St Bonnie’s and company for the other games.
Even if Seton Hall and Wake Forest are better than projected, 1 more legitimate game with Georgetown at the RAC is sufficient. Relying on SHU and Wake being better than currently projected, is where even adding the other game, is a must have.
Playing Temple and SHU last year wound up doing more damage last year than we expected.
Adding players to the rotation, who can play, is more important than worrying about the schedule. The team as built last year, just wasn't talented enough 1 to 5, irregardless of the schedule to secure a bid. The play over 34 games, not the OOC schedule, prevented the team from making the NCAAs......same thing applies right now, recruiting is the focus IMO.
Playing Temple and SHU last year wound up doing more damage last year than we expected.
Adding players to the rotation, who can play, is more important than worrying about the schedule. The team as built last year, just wasn't talented enough 1 to 5, irregardless of the schedule to secure a bid. The play over 34 games, not the OOC schedule, prevented the team from making the NCAAs......same thing applies right now, recruiting is the focus IMO.
Both things matter. And to be fair - it could actually go either way provided you play and beat a solid NCAA tourney team. If we beat Miami last season, the OOC schedule would’ve been “perfect”. We didn’t.
The concern for next season is that it’s very possible we don’t even play a tourney caliber team. That would mean that any result other than winning out is a net neutral OOC result at best. Beating Georgetown at home and splitting the SHU and Wake games of none are NIT caliber is acceptable but doesn’t help us (for now, not factoring in a real game since one hasn’t been confirmed yet). To solidify that “acceptable” status, winning out the rest of the cupcakes would be an absolute must. Losing no more than one nonconference game to be on track for a bid puts a lot of pressure on the team IMO not to have any off days.
We weren't behind an 8 ball. We lost fourteen games (before Selection Sunday) and still barely missed it. Fourteen games is a lot of wiggle room.
There’s no guarantee we won’t go 9-11 in conference play. With our current OOC we’d in fair shape, or worse, going into the B1G tournament.
If we go 9-11 in conference we aren’t good and aren’t going to perform well OOC either. There’s no magic schedule to get bad teams into the tournament. You need to win games.
Insiders are saying one and maybe two neutral site games NIL sponsored vs Big 12 team and another power 6…..believe it when i see it
We beat a lot of tourney teams in conference play. We’ve been a consistent statistical outlier in that respect. As you know, these types of trends tend to normalize. Law of averages. Meaning at some point, we’ll have a year where we win the games we’re supposed to, but don’t beat any of the conference elites. It’s when this happens that it can truly cost you a bid if you didn’t even play any tourney teams out of conference.
This would be an interesting MTE with St. Mary's pulling out for another event leaving one open slot. 🤔
Hawaiian Airlines Diamond Head Classic
Friday and Saturday, December 22 and 23 and Monday, December 25: Honolulu
Georgia Tech (ACC)
Hawai’i (Big West)
Nevada (MW)
Old Dominion (Sun Belt)
Saint Mary’s (WCC) (Jon Rothstein, College Hoops Today)
TCU (Big 12)
Temple (American)
UMass (Atlantic 10)
1 TBD
Hawaiian Airlines Diamond Head Classic
Friday and Saturday, December 22 and 23 and Monday, December 25: Honolulu
Georgia Tech (ACC)
Hawai’i (Big West)
Nevada (MW)
Old Dominion (Sun Belt)
Saint Mary’s (WCC) (Jon Rothstein, College Hoops Today)
TCU (Big 12)
Temple (American)
UMass (Atlantic 10)
1 TBD
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Would be. But we know there's a better chance of the football team beating Ohio State and Michigan than Steve spending Christmas in Hawaii.
Thought about this too. Considering they’re still struggling to lock up a neutral site game vs a low level power 5 team, they really should consider this tourney especially with Cliff back. Guarantees 3 real games instead of a one off vs say a BC, or Temple like last year Mohegan game.
That sounds cool. We did something similar with SJU a while back.
State Penn on Tuesday added a game at MSG against Georgia Tech as part of the Holiday Festival. Definitely irritating that Michigan, State Penn and UConn have non-conference games there this season and RU doesn't.
Not to knock you off your stand but this is probably a pretty good reason the B1G sucks in the Tourney every year. We dont play anyone with a heartbeat while we concentrate on being beat up and beating up other B1G teams during the season. The other conferences are playing more solid teams and preparing their teams for the Dance
Yup, probably. It's a tripleheader with St. John's/Fordham as the second game followed by a women's game. Surely, Rutgers would have brought way more fans to Midtown Manhattan than a cow college in East Bumble****, Pa. How does this get scheduled weeks before the season starts?
Yes we would have, but that's likely one less game at the RAC. I'll keep as many games at the RAC as possible
listening to 19,000 people sing Varsity in that “cavern” is awe inspiring even for a non-graduate. There will be few tickets available for non-UW fans.
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The problem is simultaneously not playing enough good teams and playing too many good teams. Makes sense to me!
