It doesn't matter, there are plenty of geniuses / experts who would agree with last years predictions/
prove to you that what you thought happened (8 wins/ bowl "W")....didn't or doesn't matter THIS year!
MO
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It doesn't matter, there are plenty of geniuses / experts who would agree with last years predictions/
prove to you that what you thought happened (8 wins/ bowl "W")....didn't or doesn't matter THIS year!
MO
Here are last year's predictions by Jerry Palm:
He picked 3 of the 4 playoff participants, but had Oklahoma instead of Oregon.
Here are the B1G Bowl predictions. Correct B1G team is bolded.
Ohio State vs Florida State in the Rose
Wisconsin vs Oregon in the Fiesta
Iowa vs Ole Miss in the TaxSlayer
Michigan vs Georgia in the Outback
Michigan State vs LSU in the Citrus (Capital One)
Minnesota vs Oregon State in the Foster Farms (Fight Hunger)
Nebraska vs USC in the Holiday -- This was the actual matchup.
Rutgers, Maryland, and Illinois made a bowl game, whereas Michigan did not.
He is basically predicting Ohio St to go 7-0 in the B1G East, Michigan St 6-1, and Penn St 5-2. With Wisconsin and Nebraska in top bowls they are predicting an RU loss to both of them as well.
That is 5 losses right off. They must be predicting we lose to MD or Indiana for our 6th loss and 1 of our OOC games to Wash St or Kansas.
That is 5 losses right off. They must be predicting we lose to MD or Indiana for our 6th loss and 1 of our OOC games to Wash St or Kansas.
You need to relax. It is his opinion who cares ? Plus we have not done anything on a consistent basis yet. Give it a few years please. Be realistic. Lots of people are expecting us and Maryland to take a step backwards ....so be it!
Zero chance we will be favored at PSU or at Mich[/QUOTE]
Zero is awfully low. Probably not PSU unless they blow one of their two really easy games before us. But MIchigan. We play then in November. You are telling me there is literally no chance that Michigan struggles under a new coach and that we overacheive a bit and are favored. Thats a load. We have plenty of chance to be considered better than a team we beat last year and that didnt even make a bowl last year.
Well catually - one thing we have done on a consistent basis is make bowls. Eveyr year except once for the past decade. So yeah - I would say, the safe bet in any given year is that RU at least squeezes into a bowl.
We are pre-season ranked 84th, behind Temple, Georgia Southern, Houston, and a slew of other programs in a much worse place than ours. That's what the world thinks of us. If you think we're going to be favored in a game vs the Peds or Michigan, you're insane.
Year one: 6-7, 2-6 in conference. Lost bowl game. Conference wins over Ole Miss (0-8 in SEC that season, 2-10 overall) and Kentucky (2-6, 5-7). Also beat Elon, UConn, Army, and Wake Forest (who was decent that year).
Year two: 5-3 in conference, 9-4 overall. Won bowl game vs NC State. Conference wins: Missouri (2-6, 5-7 overall), Auburn (0-8, 3-9), Kentucky (0-8, 2-10), Ole Miss (3-5, 7-6 overall) and Tennessee (1-7, 5-7 overall). Out of conference wins over Presbyterian, UMass, and Wake Forest. Nothing stands out as a big win.
Year three: 4-4 in conference, 9-4 overall. Won bowl game vs Houston. Conference wins vs Georgia (5-3, 8-5), Florida (3-5, 4-8), Kentucky (0-8, 2-10), and Tennessee (2-6, 5-7). Out of conference vs Austin Peay, UMass, UAB, and Wake Forest. The Georgia win was a 17-0 4th quarter comeback from a 27-14 deficit to win, 31-27. Todd Gurley was injured and did not play in the game, but everyone has some injuries by mid-October.
Overall conclusion: Franklin did a good job of beating the bad teams on his schedule. One win over a team that had a winning conference record in three years, and it took a big 4th quarter rally to accomplish that. There is certainly no reason to puff out your chest about beating Missouri when they went 2-6 in conference, Florida when they were 3-5, Tennessee when they were 1-7 and 2-6, Auburn when they were 0-8 (!!!), and Ole Miss when they were 0-8 and 3-5.
To be fair, by the same token: if we held on to beat PSU last season, it wouldn't look like a great win in the future because it would've been over a team that finished 1-7 in conference. But it sure would've felt good anyway.
That's what one algortmithmically generated computer rating that focuses on lost and returning players thinks. It's august. Last year at this time most people didn't think we'd stay within 3 tds of psu or michigan.
Which is why we will be underdogs in both. However, not sure about Michigan's roster having all this talent. They may have had highly rated recruiting classes with lots of stars under Hoke but that's all window dressing as far as Harbaugh is concerned. He wants his type of guys playing his style of football (more physical). They are a program in flux this year and while it will be tough, we may be capable of pulling an upset there. PSU on the other hand...ugh. That video going around shows that they will "be ready for us". I don't see us winning now. Oh well, I'm so glad we don't matter to them. Imagine how much more ready they'd be for us if we did?
UM has a fine coach right now. That being said its still year 1 of his regime and that program is still a trainwreck. They do not have an overwhelming level of talent and they are going to go through a lot of growing pains this year adjusting to Khakis. They will be out for revenge though, thats for sure.
As for ttfp.... I'll believe it when I see it. Its always hard playing in crappy valley, and the crowd will definitely be a factor with the new QB/linemen. Miscommunication is gonna happen. But again, the talent gap between us and them is not there. We execute, we win.
But you are correct those games will be tougher compared to last year simply based on the fact that they are both away games. Its just that I don't think their teams have gotten better.
Rutgers might show some extra toughness themselves and be better than how they were in 2014.
RU might surprise those who think other teams are better now than when RU played them last season.
Could be Rutgers improved enough to make sure PSU & UM won't win when they play in 2015
+1000000
Oh my GOD. I seriously thought i was the only person on planet earth who picked up on this and ACTUALLY went through the trouble of analyzing the "big wins" that Franklin had at Vandy instead of just blindly following the hypefest.. The guy basically beat no one. He defeated some of the worst teams in the SEC. But this was during that full fledged "S-E-C !" craze of Bama dominance where no one actually realized how bad some of those popular teams were playing. No one cared, because SEC.
"If Franklin could win in the SEC he could win anywhere" is the story everyone keeps buying. Not realizing that he got throttled by every team with a pulse. He defeated one ranked opponent his whole entire life, a Georgia team that had a historic number of key injuries at the time and had no business being ranked. But for some reason that makes him a wily football genius and elite coach... please.
Don't forget he got luck and only played Bama once and never played LSU in those three seasons.
And some on this board had the audacity to argue that Franklin was a better coach than Schoani. Ridiculous.
Zero is awfully low. Probably not PSU unless they blow one of their two really easy games before us. But MIchigan. We play then in November. You are telling me there is literally no chance that Michigan struggles under a new coach and that we overacheive a bit and are favored. Thats a load. We have plenty of chance to be considered better than a team we beat last year and that didnt even make a bowl last year.[/QUOTE]
Funny but ESPiN Blog has Rutgers as an the upset alert for both schools PoSU and UMd
If truth I am very much looking forward to RU-PoSU game as it will tell much about Franklin's coaching ability. In old days this would be a stomping at state college. But I see a close game even a upset like Espin suggests
It will be a big marker for the balance of the season.
Guys, Harbaugh may be Harbaugh but Michigan is BAD ... Do yourself a favor (if you care enough or are bored) and watch their spring game. You say you can't tell a lot from those, but you can tell enough. Mark my words, they will finish below 6 wins, no bowl. Possibly tied with Indiana for last in the East.
Yes agree saw their spring game and O-line blocking will be an issue unless they got some magic dust to sprinkle on the big beef to make the line suddenly improve
Don't forget to add UM needs a QB. Garner pretty much keep them in the game against Rutgers. The Iowa transfer (QB) was expected to win the job this fall, but so far Morris has looked much better. Morris has struggle since arriving at UM. Also, Fuchness is gone, so who's going to catch the ball?
I don't think some of you folks understand how horrible a program vandy was and getting players admitted is also a challenge, what Franklin did there in that short amount of time was amazing regardless of who he beat
I bet you have dreams about Franklin at night don't you lol be honest homey i won't judge you.
Who he beat didn't make that amazing.
Vandy had two bad years before he was hired, but went bowling ( beat BC in the Music City bowl) 3 years before
and beat Auburn, South Carolina and Mississippi that year as well.
2007 Vandy beat South Carolina and Old Miss.
Don't give Franklin more credit than he deserves because in 2008 the Commodores' HC Bobby Johnson was named the SEC's co:COY
We will get a much better idea of how good of a coach Franklin is this year, but it wont be for another two years until PSU is back at full strength and he can really be judged against some of the elite programs. The juniors and seniors on this years team were the two classes most effected by the sanctions. A lot of those guys didn't have any other power 5 offers.
I love that Franklin is put on such high pedestal by both the B1G and the Happy Valley cult. This way when we beat them it will be even more gratifying. Couda, wouda, shouda beat them last year, and the only reason we didn't was that we believed the bulls*it hype that is Ped State football.
This year, our team has had a chance to look at the film of that game, and I'm sure hate themselves for letting those fools pull it out in the last minute of that game. The future is now, and I don't care about sanctions, lack of or not, they are still of a mindset that their collective crap does not smell. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
This year, our team has had a chance to look at the film of that game, and I'm sure hate themselves for letting those fools pull it out in the last minute of that game. The future is now, and I don't care about sanctions, lack of or not, they are still of a mindset that their collective crap does not smell. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
It's this way of thinking that rules a lot on the board.:chairshot: Some have very little faith in their own team.:( I'm with you sanctions or not screw PSU.
Doug, don't tell me that you don't agree that in all players minds, conscious, or subconscious, there is that element of awe. That "awe" which sometimes can be overwhelming, especially when it's a first time situation, a new experience. As we play all the storied programs, we will eventually become a storied program. But, in the meantime there will be growing pains. It can happen in any sport. I remember those feelings myself, they can be overwhelming, and as much as you psych yourself up for the game, the feeling remains.
I sometimes have more "faith" then others. I am the guy who predicts undefeated seasons, when others are picking us to play 500 ball. But, teams, coaches, and programs have to learn how to win. They should put fear into the other team, before the game starts, or at the least doubt.
We are getting there. This year will be a true statement to our program. "We have seen the enemy, and it is us."
:oops: You know, after rereading your comments, I think I may have misunderstood the sentiment. So, Nevermind.:oops:
I sometimes have more "faith" then others. I am the guy who predicts undefeated seasons, when others are picking us to play 500 ball. But, teams, coaches, and programs have to learn how to win. They should put fear into the other team, before the game starts, or at the least doubt.
We are getting there. This year will be a true statement to our program. "We have seen the enemy, and it is us."
:oops: You know, after rereading your comments, I think I may have misunderstood the sentiment. So, Nevermind.:oops:
I was with you from the start of your post.[thumb2] I think after Rutgers played at Nebraska, Ohio State, and Michigan State the awe factor isn't as big this year. Been there done that is the best way to describe the team. Now it's about just playing football and with players like Carroo, Hamilton, and Lumpkin leading the way I feel OK with Rutgers going into a loud and rough environment. Plus the team usually reflects the attitude of the coach and if I've learned one thing about Flood is he has shown the ability to adapt and grow. There will be an edge to Rutgers this year at PSU after letting one get away last year. UM is in flux with a new staff and changes in general. Rutgers beat them last year, so their is no fear going up against them again.
If people get away from being in awe of the stadium size and the name on he front of the jersey...they will know that penn stare and Michigan road games are very winnable
What worries me is that the a lot of the same people are writing that Washington stare and Indiana will be wins without looking at how we match up.
Those four games plus Maryland are on the same plane
What worries me is that the a lot of the same people are writing that Washington stare and Indiana will be wins without looking at how we match up.
Those four games plus Maryland are on the same plane
This. That last 2 minutes of the game last year was the difference because of a Breakdown on one play. In fact State Penn got 53 yards on one pass play ( almost 1/6 of their total Offense Yards for the game) because of poor tackling by Rutgers . Stay focused and not have a 5-1 turnover margin loss in the game and RU should win.
Yeah, it's not that big a deal, and not necessarily a harbinger of what will happen.
If you recall, there were tons of predictions a year ago that Maryland and Rutgers would be winless in the conference until they played each other in the last week of the season.
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Just by your mancrush, I don't think he's the one having wet dreams about Franklin.
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