Committee Chair on Mad Dog Radio-best answer on why no RU
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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It is. Because the holiday tourney gets you three games, usually at least one q1 and sometimes 2. For example ill add the team names to the schedule based on who seton hall faced in their holiday tourney
@ SHU (home and home alternating years)
St Johns (home and home alternating years)
Gavitt (home and home alternating years)
Neutral- Memphis (tourney)
Neutral- Oklahoma (tourney)
@ Temple (home and home alternating years)
Princeton (2 for 1)
Neutral- Siena (tourney)
Monmouth (2 for 1)
Fdu
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the problem is they are just so inconstant with their reasoning. Imagine picking a team that had 1 quad 1 win all year and putting them in the tourney while stating someone else’s schedule isn’t up to par .
Sounds like recency bias and BS on SOS to justify it. How did the tough schedule help Michigan? They won at Pitt by 31 freaking pts. One bad loss and a handful of close losses to good teams.
They used the eye test to keep us out and pointed to whatever flaws we had to justify it. If we had beaten Temple and Seton Hall and Nebraska but lost to Purdue and Indiana they would've kept us out and said it was because we had no marquee wins. It really is this simple.
If UNC had RU’s resume, would they have gotten in?
Problem is the committee doesn’t apply their “criteria” consistently. OOC strength of schedule and wins against field and quad records are very easy to apply consistently. They clearly do not. Then again why would the NCAA do anything consistently. They are totally inept at everything they do.
NCAA is a clown show. Who did the other teams beat OOC?If any of those teams played in the BIG Ten they dont come close to winning 10 games. It should be overall strength of schedule
Fellas, they are basically saying we watched RU play, and in some games they looked terrible ( NW, Nebraska, Michigan). So we left them out...The eye test is real..
If we lose by 30 to Gonzaga then we blow and aren’t making the tourney anyway
The holiday tournaments are nothing more than a money grab for the networks that produce a brutal atmosphere and opportunity to lose 2 games in three days. You know RU would get screwed with the seeding in those games
Seton Hall lost to Oklahoma and Siena in their MTE but that's who we're supposed to emulate. Okay.
of course , they were third our with a horrible resume in a crappy conference. its honestly a joke
And stopped watching before the Big 10 tournament..a win vs Purdue may not have made a difference
I want the committee to explain why NC State or Nevada over us. The same arguments can be said about them, only the rest of their resumes are worse.
Still sounds to me like veiled rationalization for not wanting to take nine B1G teams.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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They beat a tourney team in Memphis and won a q1 game at Ru
I mean …did anyone please look at our schedule down the stretch ?
At Indiana …5 seed
At Illinois ….9 seed
Nebraska …likely not in NIT
At Wisconsin …NIT
Michigan ……….NIT
At Penn state ..10 seed
At Minnesota
northwestern .6 seed
Michigan ….NIT
Purdue ……1 seed
We went 1-4 field and loss close to Indiana and Purdue
Yes we were 3-7 down the stretch …but we also beat a Penn state team that was hot, a couple of NIT teams and loss to a 1 seed and 4 seed away from home by 5
Sheesh
That much is clear.
The conf championships meant nothing and the seedlings reflected that.
I dont get why posters still want to schedule 315 ooc ever year as if its something to aspire too
Makes no difference if you lose to OOC opponents. What do they value most? Wins. End of story. Go 10-0 with a weak OOC schedule and they dont care. OA record matters more than wins against OOC opponents
Stupid reasoning. So what if Edey and two other Purdue starters got killed in a plane crash two weeks ago (God Forbid), and they lost their last ten games. Would they have been left out because they wouldn't do well in the Tournament?
utah state beat seattle U and lost to a 10-22 smu team then beat wash state ( average at best) in their tourney. this is what the committee wants a tourney team to do?
But what about the last two Big Ten tournament games, RU looked so much better with Simpson
Penn state lucked out by being 10 but thats a 8-9 team and 7 if they won big 10 tourney
Exactly. Unc, with RU’s resume, is an 8 or 9 seed. Total BS.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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Bac, ive been beating this drum here for years and youve always been of the same mindset but theres a weird faction here that refuses to acknowledge that the ooc is a problem. A problem that can easily be fixed tho
i don’t want that schedule but the commitee rewarding utah state and nevada for playing like two decent teams non conference and losing them is a joke.
Bingo!!! We have a winner.
OOC schedule has never been an issue. They left RU for whatever reason and the chairman let it slip that they went with the eye test instead of the full body of work
Some of those games were unwatchable. It may have simply been too little too late. We needed to beat Purdue in the committees eyes
It's pretty clear what needs to happen. Our SOS was the worst of any of the schools under consideration. It's weak and makes us look like a bunch of puxxies. Trying to pad our record and not even successful at doing it (see temple this year, lafayette, umass last year). Stop comparing us and our record to the schools that barely made it in this year. Coach needs to show some cajones and prove that we can take on anyone.
Committee: we don't look at conference standings, just the overall body of work.
Also committee: we don't look at your overall strength of schedule, just your non conference SOS. If you are in a power conference, anyway.
Square those arguments if you can.
Also committee: we don't look at your overall strength of schedule, just your non conference SOS. If you are in a power conference, anyway.
Square those arguments if you can.
So recency bias matters. As does strength of schedule. Still, if you watched us vs purdue and Michigan not sure that holds water. I guess conference tourneys really do not matter.
You understand that a harder schedule just means we end up like Oklahoma State, right? Do you think Oklahoma State is happy they scheduled UConn? Or do they wish they'd scheduled Austin Peay and got to 19-14 instead of 18-15?
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