Corey Sanders - Sacramento Kings pre-Draft workout

[RUtrumpet92]

If he decides to stay in the draft, I hope it works out for him. I'll be surprised if he is on an NBA roster next year but the D league does open up an option to get paid sooner. Not sure if the development there is better than he's getting from Pikiell. I know Corey plays a different type of game but if Douby and Steve Worthy couldn't make it...

 

[eja92]

Everyone should just relax and let it play out. If he leaves, best of luck to him. He is nowhere near an NBA player right now and his best chance of ever playing in the NBA is staying at RU. He is simply not a good enough shooter to play in the NBA and the D league has not proven to be as good a developmental league as has been the NCAA. At RU, Corey will receive intense coaching from a staff that knows him well and will be on him for 12 months per year. That isn't true of professional basketball. He could go overseas and make a regular paycheck, however.

 

[RUJMM78]

Offensive efficiency is team scoring divided by possessions. To me a pure stat for analyzing offense.

last year 231st 1.014 points scored per possession
'15-'16 303rd .963 points per possession

'14-'15 279th .965
'13-'14 148th 1.058

Can we get that much worse without him? A Beatty type who distributes the ball to offensively challenged others and can knock down a perimeter shot might not be more than a step backwards.

With a potential Sanders departure Rutgers would be losing 3 of its leading scorers.How will that loss be made up when Johnson and Sanders were the go to shooters in end game situations?

This isn't a stat issue but rather the need for replacement players that can makeup for the lost points just to get back to where Rutgers was last year.

 

[bowlgoal]

Hope he follows in Delgado footsteps and sticks with RU.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Eugene and, to a lesser extent, Issa are very willing passers. Given Nigel and Corey did everything off the dribble their skills were underutilized.

All we heard about was how good of a shooter Mike Williams. Now he would have a big green light, like HS.

Freeman.....he now has an expanded role. No doubt he has to take and make 17 footers.

Everyone should be concerned about our offense. They should be concerned with or without Sanders. last year our offense was putrid.

 

[RUJMM78]

CJ is replaced by Myles Johnson and potentially another Big....

Nigel is replaced by Geo Baker

Corey is not someone you immediately replace, but my guess (a pretty good one almost all the time) is that you have an available spot on a B1G roster and you become immediately more attractive to some recruits....it doesn't take an all conference player to make up the difference.

On FT shooting alone, an 80% FT shooter that is a normal 8PPG player, can get to 12PPG if that person gets to the FT and converts FT's.....Sanders PPG average if he's a better FT shooter is probably 4 to 5 point per game better if his FT shooting was around 75% to 80% vs hovering below 60%....

There are so many ways to add scoring without having to do significantly more offensively....the sets and game plans designed put RU in games, they didn't belong in some nights and FT shooting more than anything derailed what could have been an even better season.

I have no idea how the team will shoot next year from the line, but if Baker is at least respectable (70% or better), there is no dropoff vs what Nigel Johnson provided offensively....Baker is a better shooter, more athletic and longer armed defender....Nigel was a better on the ball-defender, but it's not as if Baker can't learn how to defend.

The kid McIntosh from Northwestern is a step slower offensively and two steps slower defensively vs Sanders....McIntosh however understands the game, angles, how to create space to shoot and draws contact to make FT's, something that can be added to the game of Sanders.

RU is not dropping below 10 wins if Sanders leaves....there will be comparable replacement if that happens and everyone on the roster has a chance to step their games up and score....

There is no compelling evidence that Johnson and Baker will provide 20 points a game to make up for the loss of Gettys and Johnson.

Your whole scenario is based on the coaching staff making players better shooters similar to the improvement on defense and rebounding.
Offensive skills are far harder to show marked improvement especially against B1G level competition.Rutgers was 8-10 points short last season to average approximately 70 points per game.Former head coach Mike Rice mentioned many times that Rutgers needed to score at least 70 points per game while a member of the Big East to be successful.I think his viewpoint has merit and also has relevance in the B1G.

I also think you are under estimating the impact the won/loss record for 2017 will have on 2018 recruiting.I don't see any rush by 2018 recruits giving verbal commits to Rutgers which tells me that they are in a wait and see mode which has not favored Rutgers in past recruiting cycles as the losing seasons mount up.

 

[BKIn118]

I've got some doubt creeping into my mind, but I'm still pretty sure he comes back.

I haven't spoken with him recently. Just basing this on what's swirling around out there.

Corey thinks he's a pro. He probably will be at some point. In my opinion though...He's making a mistake to do it now. Rutgers still has a lot to offer Mr. Sanders

 

[bowlgoal]

Thats great to hear. I think we all think Corey is a pro. In fact we know he's a pro; but probably not the NBA or at least not yet.

Who was that great shooter from Indiana who didn't get drafted last year? His name slips my mind but he was better than Corey?

 

[TDIrish27]

Yogi Ferrell ?

Yes he was better

 

[RocktheRac]

I'm thinking Jorden still has connections with the Kings. Maybe this was something EJ got for Corey.

 

[Russ Wood]

Thats great to hear. I think we all think Corey is a pro. In fact we know he's a pro; but probably not the NBA or at least not yet.

Who was that great shooter from Indiana who didn't get drafted last year? His name slips my mind but he was better than Corey?

Yogi Ferrell. He signed a multi-year deal with Dallas in Feb.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Everyone should just relax and let it play out. . . .

That's a funny sentence to write before going on to write all the stuff you write afterward, which is just more of the same type of discussion from which you're seeking everyone's relaxation.

 

[Pritz99]

Let's just say that Sanders is a borderline NBA talent. And there are people here that think losing borderline NBA talent can be easily replaced. What planet are you living on? Where are all the top players lining up to play for Rutgers? Do they think they're so good they can't play behind Sanders for a year?

If that next borderline NBA PG talent hasn't signed with us yet, why doesn't he come on board and Pike can move Sanders to SG? We're signing PGs like Mensah (who, I should now assume, is in the same league as Sanders) and apparently can take over with little loss of efficiency?

I don't track who on this board says what over the long haul, but I bet these are the same people that sang the praises of Sa and Thiam as the second and third coming. I like Pike. Terrific coach. Jury is still out on whether he can overcome the Rutgers "mystique."

Let's have a modicum of realism. The replacement of Gettys and Nigel production has been met with a finger of freshmen in the dyke. Wanna guess what the continuation of the analogy is?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

A guard who can't shoot is like a QB that can't throw. Stop it saying Corey is better than Yogi.

I will say, if memory serves me correct, Yogi wasn't great in the defensive end. Maybe that is more James Blackmon.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Eugene and, to a lesser extent, Issa are very willing passers. . . .

All we heard about was how good of a shooter Mike William . . .

All of whom, of course, will also be getting tryouts with NBA teams . . .

 

[bowlgoal]

Yogi Ferrell ?

Yes he was better

That's the guy.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

A guard who can't shoot is like a QB that can't throw. Stop it saying Corey is better than Yogi.

I will say, if memory serves me correct, Yogi wasn't great in the defensive end. Maybe that is more James Blackmon.

Yogi is a better shooter and more of a pure PG. BUT.....surround both of them with the same or comparable talent and you can make a case that Sanders is just as good, just in a different way.

FIG....you need to start thinking outside the Box. [devil]

 

[bowlgoal]

A guard who can't shoot is like a QB that can't throw. Stop it saying Corey is better than Yogi.

I will say, if memory serves me correct, Yogi wasn't great in the defensive end. Maybe that is more James Blackmon.

Yogi is a better shooter. BUT.....surround both of them with the same or comparable talent and you can make a case that Sanders is better.

FIG....you need to start thinking outside the Box.

I would agree that Corey could be much better than we think because of the talent or lack thereof around him. Yogi could shoot the lights out and doesn't miss free throws. There's no doubt that Corey needs to step up his game. I think if we had another guard with comparable speed; it would free him up. Unfortunately, we don't have a player like that in the program as of now.

 

[sct1111]

Yogi is a better shooter. BUT.....surround both of them with the same or comparable talent and you can make a case that Sanders is better.

FIG....you need to start thinking outside the Box. [devil]

I don't really get this. Isn't the point guard supposed to make the rest of the team better? With what passing skills is Corey going to make the rest of his team better? Is he going to break down the defense by always driving to his right? Sure, he's pretty good in transition especially when you put him with another athletic guard. That's his strength. What else are his strengths? The NBA is now a three point shooting league. Most if not all guards can shoot the three. Corey can't. He's not a defensive specialist.

I guess we don't know if he's effective with the pick and roll because he had no one to pick and roll with in this offense.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

I don't really get this. Isn't the point guard supposed to make the rest of the team better? With what passing skills is Corey going to make the rest of his team better? Is he going to break down the defense by always driving to his right? Sure, he's pretty good in transition especially when you put him with another athletic guard. That's his strength. What else are his strengths? The NBA is now a three point shooting league. Most if not all guards can shoot the three. Corey can't. He's not a defensive specialist.

I guess we don't know if he's effective with the pick and roll because he had no one to pick and roll with in this offense.

There are many Guys that shot around 30% in college and improved when their job is playing basketball. Shooting better is probably the easiest thing that a player can accomplish because all it takes is time practicing.....time that players don't have in college with class, mandatory study time, etc. His form is not bad so he just needs to take HUNDREDs of shots each day, every day. That's what a Kawhi Leonard did, from his last college game to his first PRO game. Kobe Bryant was once a subpar outside shooter, LeBron was once a subpar shooter. It can be done.

Sanders said it in his interview.....he could improve more when his life is basketball.....not to, as the former OSU QB said, "Play School"...lol

About going left...I have seen him go left. His idol, Alan Iverson never went left and Sanders is probably just a tad slower and obviously, not as talented with the crossover dribble and pull up jumper.

 

[RUsojo]

There are many Guys that shot around 30% in college and improved when their job is playing basketball. Shooting better is probably the easiest thing that a player can accomplish because all it takes is time practicing.....time that players don't have in college with class, mandatory study time, etc. His form is not bad so he just needs to take HUNDREDs of shots each day, every day. That's what a Kawhi Leonard did, from his last college game to his first PRO game. Kobe Bryant was once a subpar outside shooter, LeBron was once a subpar shooter. It can be done.

Sanders said it in his interview.....he could improve more when his life is basketball.....not to, as the former OSU QB said, "Play School"...lol

About going left...I have seen him go left. His idol, Alan Iverson never went left and Sanders is probably just a tad slower and obviously, not as talented with the crossover dribble and pull up jumper.

I'm not picking on you and I'm know you're not making this your point but comparing college players who won't get drafted to NBA HOFers is a bad practice that I wish was abolished by the sporting community as a whole.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

I'm not picking on you and I'm know you're not making this your point but comparing college players who won't get drafted to NBA HOFers is a bad practice that I wish was abolished by the sporting community as a whole.

I'm not comparing their talent level, that would be foolish. I'm comparing the possibility of any player, on any level to improve as a Shooter. Sanders has good form on his shot.... all he needs to do is put in the time in practice. IMO, Good Shooters are made, not Born.

I remember hearing about one of the Best Shooters this past year in College Basketball. His practice routine includes by "Making" 500 shots per day, not taking 500 shots. He stayed in the gym until he made 500 shots. I think Players in the NBA get there in two ways.....more athletic ability and outworking their opposition.

 

[rutger80]

Let's have a modicum of realism. The replacement of Gettys and Nigel production has been met with a finger of freshmen in the dyke. Wanna guess what the continuation of the analogy is?

Shouldn't that be on a different board?