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Corey speaks...leaning toward leaving

I don't want to start this huge argument, but good, let's get it over with,
he is in college for the wrong reason. Not saying he is the only one.
But let's turn the page and get on with the recruiting.
Let Pikiel get his players in now, not two years from now.
 
I don't want to start this huge argument, but good, let's get it over with,
he is in college for the wrong reason. Not saying he is the only one.
But let's turn the page and get on with the recruiting.
Let Pikiel get his players in now, not two years from now.
You are right he brought in Souf. Hand picked. We will be fine.
 
You are right he brought in Souf. Hand picked. We will be fine.
Souf replacing Sanders hardly is a plus for Rutgers basketball assuming his acdemics are approved.Rutgers needs shooters desperately.
 
If Corey leaves, this roster may not win a big ten game. I am a believer in this staff and an optimist, but that's just the facts.

We hypothetically lose Corey, Nigel, CJ (won't even include diallo or Laurent in this) and replace them with a juco 2 star, baker, and Johnson.

I don't care who is coaching, you can't win in this league with that roster.

Our season, and possibly the 2018 class hangs on his decision.
 
If Corey leaves, this roster may not win a big ten game. I am a believer in this staff and an optimist, but that's just the facts.

We hypothetically lose Corey, Nigel, CJ (won't even include diallo or Laurent in this) and replace them with a juco 2 star, baker, and Johnson.

I don't care who is coaching, you can't win in this league with that roster.

Our season, and possibly the 2018 class hangs on his decision.
With his flaws Sanders still would be the most talented Rutgers player.With his potential departure Rutgers offense would take a serious hit and make every out of conference game a potential nail biter.The program took a step forward with Pikiell but could take two steps backward in 2017 with all the departures.The impact on 2018 recruiting certainly won't be enhanced with a Jordan like won/loss record.
 
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Im just not sure who the hell is telling him he has a shot right now at getting drafted.

Blows my mind. Come back. Get your 1k points, find your left hand and jumper. Go pro.
 
This is now Freeman and Williams team (assuming Sanders does leave). From all that I saw Corey Sanders was a good teammate and gave good effort, NO COMPLAINTS. I think the chemistry gets better. Everyone is now an equal.

The face of the program now is a 6'2'' guard that rebounds like a power forward and does all the dirty work. If somehow we can get him to magically shot .400 from 3 watch out.
 
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This is now Freeman and Williams team (assuming Sanders does leave). From all that I saw Corey Sanders was a good teammate and gave good effort, NO COMPLAINTS. I think the chemistry gets better. Everyone is now an equal.

The face of the program now is a 6'2'' guard that rebounds like a power forward and does all the dirty work. If somehow we can get him to magically shot .400 from 3 watch out.

A big part of Freeman's contributions were cleaning up easy put backs on the weakside glass after Corey drew the help defender. Gettys too for that matter.
 
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Now he'll have to move out 6 feet and put back Williams and Thaims misses from 3.:smiley:

Freeman now gets twice as many touches. Maybe you get less out of control moves to the lane if he knows he is going to see the ball more.
 
This is now Freeman and Williams team (assuming Sanders does leave). From all that I saw Corey Sanders was a good teammate and gave good effort, NO COMPLAINTS. I think the chemistry gets better. Everyone is now an equal.

The face of the program now is a 6'2'' guard that rebounds like a power forward and does all the dirty work. If somehow we can get him to magically shot .400 from 3 watch out.

Sarcasm? Sanders is not gone yet.
 
This is now Freeman and Williams team (assuming Sanders does leave). From all that I saw Corey Sanders was a good teammate and gave good effort, NO COMPLAINTS. I think the chemistry gets better. Everyone is now an equal. . . .

Watch how that works out, Opposing teams won't struggle deciding whom to defend. They'll struggle wondering whether there is anyone to defend.

This is, by the way, one of the many reasons that recruiting well is so hard. Even when you hit on a player or two, they don't have to stay and won't if there aren't more good players, putting you back to square one. And it ripples, as the departures put the staff in a difficult place from which to get even more new recruits and keep verbals on board.

The staff can coach. But stepping up recruiting will be much harder to accomplish.
 
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Pretty much Corey's boy Dwyane Bacon is an early entry this year so Corey probably will be too. Corey kind of follows Dwayne's lead.
 
Corey had the basketball in his hands a ton of the time. He averaged 12.8 points per game and 3.2 assists per game.

Worrying about replacing that is like worrying about losing your starting RB who rushed for 1000 yards on 300 attempts.
 
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If he leaves I'd think that would mean Sa and Johnson gets more minutes because the extra spot would go to a scorer.
 
Now he'll have to move out 6 feet and put back Williams and Thaims misses from 3.:smiley:

Freeman now gets twice as many touches. Maybe you get less out of control moves to the lane if he knows he is going to see the ball more.

Or forces the issue more knowing we lose a lot of scoring. How Freeman adjusts will go on long way towards the watchability (coining the phrase) of this team. I tend to stick with the theory that a Zebra doesn't change its stripes, but, let's hope Pike can real him in. He has no consistent offensive game to speak of aside from those put backs.
 
You are right he brought in Souf. Hand picked. We will be fine.

He was picked as a backup PG to spell the starter and come in for 10 or so minutes per game to move the ball around the court and help the offensive flow. Some guys just don't know how important ball movement is in an offense. Maybe we should just put 5 guys out there all going 1-on1 all game.
 
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Yup. Becoming the sole scorer and needing to therefore take more shots does anything but increase efficiency. In the B1G he will be stufffed.

After tomorrow the fan base will know one more important thing. The next thing that will be on the horizon is Souf Mensah. Depending on tomorrows decision,there is a large chance he sees fifteen+ a game. Mensah is still intriguing. Sanders close family is not even in the loop with his decision. That is a bad sign.
 
If Sanders leaves it will probably be something like Dadika 15, Mensah 15, Baker 10 for the lead ball handler.

Unless someone else comes in.
 
If Sanders leaves it will probably be something like Dadika 15, Mensah 15, Baker 10 for the lead ball handler.

Unless someone else comes in.
Dadika will not get 15 minutes a game, he is a walk-on for a reason. Yes Pike goes to him to make his point about playing hard and doing what the staff asks, but if you play Dadika 15 minutes a night you're not going to win many games
 
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If Sanders leaves it will probably be something like Dadika 15, Mensah 15, Baker 10 for the lead ball handler.

Unless someone else comes in.

If were playing a walk on, a lowly recruited juco(although i think hes a nice backup) and a freshman(will be good in time) those type of minutes we wont sniff a B1G win next year.
 
Dadika will not get 15 minutes a game, he is a walk-on for a reason. Yes Pike goes to him to make his point about playing hard and doing what the staff asks, but if you play Dadika 15 minutes a night you're not going to win many games

Conversation is not worth talking about as the information is not all out. I was wrong for starting it.

But that would be where the team would be unless Pikiell brought in someone else. You think an unknown JUCO commodity just walks in and takes over? The situation doesn't provide a ton of options.Numbers could be different, but Jake is already in the weight program.Geo is going to catch up. I agree it might not be fifteen, but if the situation presented itself, he would be part of the equation.
 
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Conversation is not worth talking about as the information is not all out. I started it.

But that would be where the team would be unless Pikiell brought in someone else. You think an unknown JUCO commodity just walks in and takes over? The situation doesn't provide a ton of options.Numbers could be different, but Jake is already in the weight program.Geo is going to catch up. I agree it might not be fifteen, but if the situation presented itself, he would be part of the equation.
I highly doubt that Dadika would see significant minutes. If Sanders does leave, the bulk of the minutes will go to Mensah and Baker and I would bet on the staff adding a grad transfer to help out.
 
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I highly doubt that Dadika would see significant minutes. If Sanders does leave, the bulk of the minutes will go to Mensah and Baker and I would bet on the staff adding a grad transfer to help out.

You are right.Are players so easily obtained at this point?
 
We offer a starting PG spot in the B1G. When it comes to recruiting HS players Rutgers is Rutgers. When it comes to recruiting JUCOs and grad transfer PGs Rutgers is now Duke or Michigan State.

We will be fine. Trust me.
 
Conversation is not worth talking about as the information is not all out. I started it.

But that would be where the team would be unless Pikiell brought in someone else. You think an unknown JUCO commodity just walks in and takes over? The situation doesn't provide a ton of options.Numbers could be different, but Jake is already in the weight program.Geo is going to catch up. I agree it might not be fifteen, but if the situation presented itself, he would be part of the equation.

That's the problem. We have to be hopeful that there is some grad transfer out there that would accept the challenge of stepping into a B1G starting spot on a weak team. If Dadika is playing 15 mpg, we are about a 7-win team.
 
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That's the problem. We have to be hopeful that there is some grad transfer out there that would accept the challenge of stepping into a B1G starting spot on a weak team. If Dadika is playing 15 mpg, we are about a 7-win team.

I take back what I said about Dadika. However, he is the only person I have seen on a D1 court, and Baker is still physically not all there. And Souf is not on campus. There is not a ton of confidence about the position at the moment. I think it will be sorted out.
 
I don't think Corey wants to be at RU next year, nor do I think he expects to be in NBA. Based on the SL article, it seems he wants encouragement that he could play in the DLeague and develop his game there.
 
Dadika will not get 15 minutes a game, he is a walk-on for a reason. Yes Pike goes to him to make his point about playing hard and doing what the staff asks, but if you play Dadika 15 minutes a night you're not going to win many games

Agree, the only time I wanna see Dadika is the last 2 minutes of the game....when it's decided.

Passing is very important. Pikiell values the importance of it. This quote from him in an after the season interview explains why he bough in a pass first backup PG.

“I’m not honed in on one area. We finished last in the league. We have to get better in every area. I feel comfortable that we will. We have to shoot the ball better, for sure, foul shots. Passing the ball was a huge concern of mine and we have to get better in that area. We have to get more consistent in every area. We made huge strides this year and hopefully we can make huge strides next year as we continue to move the program forward.”
 
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We offer a starting PG spot in the B1G. When it comes to recruiting HS players Rutgers is Rutgers. When it comes to recruiting JUCOs and grad transfer PGs Rutgers is now Duke or Michigan State.

We will be fine. Trust me.
Yup. It's easy. Just suck, and they come flocking. It's worked for decades at RU. Good call.
 
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