Destructive Approach by Some is Alarming

[zappaa]

How about showing a little respect for my position instead of calling me a troll? We looked terrible against the last three schools, but how do you account for Mich. St, Wash. St., (I know we lost, but it could have gone the other way too) and the comeback against Indiana. And what about last year? Did Flood suddenly forget what it took to go 8-5 and a bowl win?

Fair enough, I apologize.
The what did you expect defense boils my blood.
As for last year, we beat nobody...flat out, and played poorly against superior opponents.
Look no further than Grant as to why we were in the game against WSU, and as far as I'm concerned, he didn't coach against MSU

 

[RU62]

Cabbage..and what is gofundme's take. There is no free lunch here and the Foundation rightly refused to be involved gor various obvious reasons.

 

[bac2therac]

How about showing a little respect for my position instead of calling me a troll? We looked terrible against the last three schools, but how do you account for Mich. St, Wash. St., (I know we lost, but it could have gone the other way too) and the comeback against Indiana. And what about last year? Did Flood suddenly forget what it took to go 8-5 and a bowl win?

Well arent we setting high standards...so because we saw a pulse in two close games Flood isnt doing so bad

From your posts here you either you have new screen name or you are a troll

 

[theRU]

Cabbage..and what is gofundme's take. There is no free lunch here and the Foundation rightly refused to be involved gor various obvious reasons.

Ignore everything i posted and come up with another reach?

Of course there is a processing fee. Who else is going to cover the cost of transaction that your Credit Card charges them?????? You think that doesn't happen anywhere else?

You damn Liar!

 

[theRU]

Cabbage..and what is gofundme's take. There is no free lunch here and the Foundation rightly refused to be involved gor various obvious reasons.

https://www.gofundme.com/sjw2015
This lady is raising money to help send herself to college... should we call the cops ?!?

 

[cohwx]

She probably deserves (and needs) the money more than the RU athletics department.

 

[mdk01]

Well arent we setting high standards...so because we saw a pulse in two close games Flood isnt doing so bad

From your posts here you either you have new screen name or you are a troll

Not quite as low a standard as you would suggest. After a horrendous opening loss to Portland State, Washington State has since beaten Oregon and Arizona State.

 

[zappaa]

Not quite as low a standard as you would suggest. After a horrendous opening loss to Portland State, Washington State has since beaten Oregon and Arizona State.

You saw Grants exploits in that game, He saved Floods ass from another blowout

 

[RU#1fan]

I think it started with Flood choosing Laviano to start, the "experts" here disagreed, and the knives came out. Most football writers picked RU to have 4 or 5 wins and that may be where it ends up. Just ignore Flood overachieving last year, the young OL, secondary, injuries, etc. We should be able to compete with Ohio St, Mich, Mich St, immediately or else I'm going to have a hissy-fit.

You are joking right ? Flood overacheiving last year ..... LMAO
He is 2 wins and 20 losses in his last 22 games vs.Teams with Winning records.

 

[theRU]

theRU, you have to know that what you and others are portraying as significant results is anything but (woo hoo $8K from 130). You have only signed up the most rabid "anti's" on this board. It is the equivalent of preaching to the choir. The HUGE majority of RU supporters, including many of us that are very unhappy with the current situation and agree (maybe for different reasons) that Flood should go, look at the fundraising effort and the suggestions for banners, boycotts, and hunger strikes as desperate and embarrassing acts. The "off with their heads" crowd that is leading this charge reminds me of the media types that latch on to the negative and beat it to death. The way this business of college football works is pretty simple, success brings job security, failure brings a new coaching staff. Mr. Flood's performance and his embarrassing Princeton side show have moved his stock well into the failure side of the equation. Admins/BOG members know this and can be reminded of this in a less "emotional" and more credible way (Contact them directly). We should all try it and perhaps we will be taken more seriously.

I dont agree with the banners or anything like that, but I do think that with a true concerted effort, support by all on this board, we could have averaged $50 across 30000 donations. We got shot down before this could really pick up steam.

 

[YoucancallmeRay]

You are joking right ? Flood overacheiving last year ..... LMAO
He is 2 wins and 20 losses in his last 22 games vs.Teams with Winning records.

Look, you guys are cherry-picking to support your position and I'm probably doing the same. The bottom line for me is that fans are often too quick to call for dumping a coach or GM. Remember the Mets last year? Almost everyone said that Alderson should be fired. I just think that Flood deserves more time. Clearly you all don't think that way. That's fine. You may be right.

 

[theRU]

Look, you guys are cherry-picking to support your position and I'm probably doing the same. The bottom line for me is that fans are often too quick to call for dumping a coach or GM. Remember the Mets last year? Almost everyone said that Alderson should be fired. I just think that Flood deserves more time. Clearly you all don't think that way. That's fine. You may be right.

We can agree on this.

My position is that we shouldn't have hired a coach to keep 1 class together. The following 3 are not up to standard. Its becoming evident that Flood can't recruit to the level he was hired to keep. Recruiting shouldn't suffer in the B!G but it is.

 

[YoucancallmeRay]

We can agree on this.

My position is that we shouldn't have hired a coach to keep 1 class together. The following 3 are not up to standard. Its becoming evident that Flood can't recruit to the level he was hired to keep. Recruiting shouldn't suffer in the B!G but it is.

I admit that it is strange and concerning. Right now RU ranks 37 on Scout, 48 I think on Rivals, and 50 on 247. They are in the bottom half of the B10 on all of them. We all expected higher ranked NJ kids to come and it's disappointing that they didn't and haven't so far. Russo is great and this class seems solid, but your point is well taken. Flood seems well liked by the recruits and their families, so is it the draw of the big name schools, the facilities at RU, the coaching philosophy, or that he just isn't a big enough "name" with a track record, or is something else?

 

[RU62]

Agree theRU...but thanks for making my point. So what you are saying is that you want people to contribute to a fund that offers no income tax deductibility and takes a fee for doing this too.

I presented a plausible solution earlier in this thread which costs nothing and makes the point loud and clear. Check it out again. And if you think you can get 3,000 people to pony up $50 each then you are dreaming. It's not the message I am questioning but how you are going about this when there are simpler and more effective ways to do this at no cost.

 

[JoeRU0304]

Troll...
You claim to have read these boards for a while, yet you make ridiculous comments like we expect to defeat OSU?
How about looking like a well organized, cohesive, semi competitive team with an actual assemnlance of a game plan...we'd all take that in defeat and be happy.

Lol, Zap I was about to ask him, "so I guess it's also ridiculous to expect us to not look like complete rejects on the field whenever we play a team that is decent? Stupid, unrealistic me for expecting our defense to keep teams under 40 points and to have our QB throw for more than 60 yards a game and/ or have our offense score more than once an Olympiad."

Ridiculous. 1-AA teams didn't get the s*** knocked out of them the way we did over the past 3 weeks...but that's all good somehow.


Joe P.

 

[bac2therac]

Not quite as low a standard as you would suggest. After a horrendous opening loss to Portland State, Washington State has since beaten Oregon and Arizona State.

that's great but they came into the game all the way from the west coast reeling..they didn't play all that well against Rutgers especially defensivey. So just because we played close at home against a team we beat last year on the road, that something to rally around..how about RU had 90 seconds and momentum and couldn't put up any resistence on their home turf to preserve the victory

 

[JoeRU0304]

Agree with Bac 111% Moral victories are for 2003, not 2015. Most people in this area remember the Giants winning the Super Bowl in 2011, not New England almost winning it.


Joe P.

 

[theRU]

Agree theRU...but thanks for making my point. So what you are saying is that you want people to contribute to a fund that offers no income tax deductibility and takes a fee for doing this too.

I presented a plausible solution earlier in this thread which costs nothing and makes the point loud and clear. Check it out again. And if you think you can get 3,000 people to pony up $50 each then you are dreaming. It's not the message I am questioning but how you are going about this when there are simpler and more effective ways to do this at no cost.

You are dense... IT IS INCOME TAX DEDUCTIBLE

Thanks for showing everyone you have the IQ of a peanut, if you would have taken the time to read the bolded section below you would then understand that this was a CERTIFIED CHARITY CAMPAIGN

Please publicly apologize now.


Is my donation tax-deductible?


Donations made to a GoFundMe Personal campaign are generally considered to be personal gifts and are not guaranteed to be tax-deductible. You can always check with a tax professional to be sure. Only donations made to a GoFundMe Certified Charity campaign are guaranteed to be tax-deductible.



Not sure if you donated to a Certified Charity campaign? You should've received a tax-deductible receipt from our charity partner FirstGiving. You can also visit the campaign you donated to and look for the 'Certified Charity' badge. Here's how it looks:

 

[NotInRHouse]

Here is the analysis

Player arrests > Wins over winning teams

Academic scandals > Wins over ranked teams

0 appropriate responses from Barchi and JH to any football issues in their tenure

We have no choice. They only understand crisis....Barchi only knew there were problems in the basketball program once the BBC reported on it....

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Agree theRU...but thanks for making my point. So what you are saying is that you want people to contribute to a fund that offers no income tax deductibility and takes a fee for doing this too.

WTF. You have had it explained multiple times that you are wrong, and even been presented with excerpts and links fem the website. There is no separate fund. The money goes to Rutgers. The gift to Rutgers is obviously income tax deductible. There is no third party recipient

The website charges a processing fee, but Rutgers knew that when they agreed to be part of the site.

Rutgers only turned down the gift because of the message attached to it. Because they refused the donation, the money was returned to the donors. You or I could start a go fund me page to give money to Rutgers to polish Willie the Silent's boots, and I am sure they would accept it.

Its not a difficult concept, and you are slandering someone because of your own unwillingness or inability to understand the situation.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Cabbage..and what is gofundme's take. There is no free lunch here and the Foundation rightly refused to be involved gor various obvious reasons.

What you are missing is that the Foundation did choose to be involved with gofundme (and their processing fee) when they agreed to be a certified charity on the site. Rutgers agreed to allow fans and supporters to start campaigns exactly like the one theRU created. They only shut his down because they didn't like the message, which is their right.

 

[RU62]

Please show me where the Foundation agreed to this or agreed to processing donations thru the gofundme's site. Maybe I DID miss this!

Let me be clearer. I am not questioning the message/cause just the method which I think has flaws in it and which several other seemed to have pointed out. I think I presented an alternative which is cleaner and doesn't involve any money exchanging hands. Again where is the accountability here of gofundme?

And might I add how does one get to be this certified charity you speak about and why go thru a third party who will take a cut when one can send the donation directly to the certified charity. Oh, I forgot...the charity/Foundation does not want any part of this donArion do where does that leave the individual donor?

I've been involved in.both fund raising and obtaining two 501c3 statuses for two organizations I've been Treasurer of. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the IRS regs and rules for this as do the accountants and attorneys who I had to work with to secure approval.

 

[RU 77]

The Ru, recruiting shouldn't suffer in the BIG, but it is? Please. The Big East was the best in basketball, but RU could not recruit then either. This shit show reaction by RU "fans" does nothing but insure we will have trouble going forward. Who would want to work for such an classless, ignorant, irreverent fan base? Too many have a Yankee mind set- fire everybody and buy a better team. You can't have a Yankee mind set with an Oakland check book. Let's just hope Rutgers runs the table from here.

 

[rutino]

Please show me where the Foundation agreed to this or agreed to processing donations thru the gofundme's site. Maybe I DID miss this!

Let me be clearer. I am not questioning the message/cause just the method which I think has flaws in it and which several other seemed to have pointed out. I think I presented an alternative which is cleaner and doesn't involve any money exchanging hands. Again where is the accountability here of gofundme?

And might I add how does one get to be this certified charity you speak about and why go thru a third party who will take a cut when one can send the donation directly to the certified charity. Oh, I forgot...the charity/Foundation does not want any part of this donArion do where does that leave the individual donor?

I've been involved in.both fund raising and obtaining two 501c3 statuses for two organizations I've been Treasurer of. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the IRS regs and rules for this as do the accountants and attorneys who I had to work with to secure approval.

Here is a link which shows the Rutgers University Foundation is indeed listed as a certified charity on gofundme:

https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=charitysearch&term=237318742

Someone from the Rutgers University Foundation would have had to provide the proper documentation to set up this account. The Fire Flood campaign simply designated an established Rutgers Foundation account on gofundme for the funds they attempted to raise.

Others have already provided the links regarding the tax exempt status of donations to this account. There was nothing deceptive about where these funds were going or the tax exempt status.

The question of why Rutgers is using crowd sourcing sites (all of which collect a processing fee) to fundraise is a question best directed to the university foundation. My guess is because it is a quick and easy way for donors that that might not typically donate to Rutgers to contribute directly to fundraising initiatives of interest to them - such locker room makeovers, new band uniforms, etc.

 

[theRU]

Please show me where the Foundation agreed to this or agreed to processing donations thru the gofundme's site. Maybe I DID miss this!

Let me be clearer. I am not questioning the message/cause just the method which I think has flaws in it and which several other seemed to have pointed out. I think I presented an alternative which is cleaner and doesn't involve any money exchanging hands. Again where is the accountability here of gofundme?

And might I add how does one get to be this certified charity you speak about and why go thru a third party who will take a cut when one can send the donation directly to the certified charity. Oh, I forgot...the charity/Foundation does not want any part of this donArion do where does that leave the individual donor?

I've been involved in.both fund raising and obtaining two 501c3 statuses for two organizations I've been Treasurer of. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the IRS regs and rules forthis as do the accountants and attorneys who I had to work with to secure approval.

Its spelled out in the links i provided you. Rutgers University Foundations is a 501c3 charity...they did the paper work for that... i didnt have to do anything. The foundation then reached out to gofundme (in addition to other crowd sourcing websites) and listed themselves within their database ( this is why gofundme lists them as a certified charity). Because that foundation went through those efforts, any individual fundraiser that lists that charity as the benefactor is making fully legal and tax deductible donations.

So how about doing research on this before you go out and slander someone and attack their integrity. Turn your degree in please if you have one, because this is really embarrassing that you cannot understand this concept.

 

[Westcoast]

Please show me where the Foundation agreed to this or agreed to processing donations thru the gofundme's site. Maybe I DID miss this!

Let me be clearer. I am not questioning the message/cause just the method which I think has flaws in it and which several other seemed to have pointed out. I think I presented an alternative which is cleaner and doesn't involve any money exchanging hands. Again where is the accountability here of gofundme?

And might I add how does one get to be this certified charity you speak about and why go thru a third party who will take a cut when one can send the donation directly to the certified charity. Oh, I forgot...the charity/Foundation does not want any part of this donArion do where does that leave the individual donor?

I've been involved in.both fund raising and obtaining two 501c3 statuses for two organizations I've been Treasurer of. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the IRS regs and rules for this as do the accountants and attorneys who I had to work with to secure approval.

Do you really think you are going to get 500 people to send Julie an email threatening to cancel season tickets? That would be much more difficult than getting people to take part in an internet fund raising campaign that everyone can follow live. Now if there was a way to keep a running tally of emails sent...

The other benefit of the gofundme campaign was it could have resulted in greater revenue for RU, as opposed to less, as in your scenario.

 

[RU62]

Can I remind you that the Foundation indicated it would not accept any funds related to a fire Flood campaign. Isn't that what you are specifically raising/requesting funds for. Also just curious......do you know if the Rutgers Foundation has accepted any funds from gofundme for any purpose? Having worked at the Foundation I am not sure if they may have formally registered with gofundme orbl gofundme has conveniently listed the names of various 501c3 organizations on its own. If uou hsve the research info please share. You may be correct but I just don't understand why the Rutgers Foundation would go thru a 3rd party to collect funds for a fee when contributions can be made directly to the University itself and the donor receive all appropriate recognition and related benefits.

theRU, can or have you confirm with some official person at the Rutger Foundation that it indeed has registered itself with gofundme. That would seem to clear things up very quickly. We do know that it does not want to be involved in any funds received via a fire Flood initiative source etc. I've also done some homework on line regarding tax implications, reviews and potential warnings which are informative and at the same time might raise some of the same concerns I have. Again your purpose may be fine and with merit....it's the mechanics that might be in question.

By the way I understand the concept but question again why any organization with it's own 501c3 status would go thru a third party like this to raise funds when it has a full staff of its own...especially a University like Rutgers. But if you can confirm that some official person of authority such as the RU Foundation president signed up with gofundme then I will stand corrected.

 

[brgossRU90]

I believe the fairly expensive hire of Ralph friedgen last year should've dispelled the notion that rutgers is just penniless and can't afford anyone better than fludd. No we don't have Notre Dame money but we almost certainly can afford to spend a little bit more than we are spending. The poverty is being forced from above because of our presidents priorities. Changing this misguided outlook needs to be the goal.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Agree theRU...but thanks for making my point. So what you are saying is that you want people to contribute to a fund that offers no income tax deductibility and takes a fee for doing this too.

I presented a plausible solution earlier in this thread which costs nothing and makes the point loud and clear. Check it out again. And if you think you can get 3,000 people to pony up $50 each then you are dreaming. It's not the message I am questioning but how you are going about this when there are simpler and more effective ways to do this at no cost.

Wow. I think you're on to something.

The Department/University should solicit funds via personal checks.

Brilliant!

Assuming your year of graduation is 1962, I'm going to chalk up your obtuseness on this issue to age. Which is fine. Crowdfunding is a relatively new mechanism for raising funds.

But make no mistake, this absolutely IS the future of non-profit fundraising. The psychology involved with many people making small donations multiple times is clearly established. It beats old fashion fundraising exponentially.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I've always said to raise large amounts from small donations you have to make it as easy, mindless and painless as possible. I think crowfunding is one vehicle that helps accomplish that. If it can turn viral like that ALS ice bucket thing all the better.

I have no issue with it and think it's a good idea. I had no issue with what the fans starting this thing, it allowed the displeasure of some to be heard and gave them an outlet to express it. I also understand the admin having to refuse the donations because of the messaging as said above.

Someone asked in the other thread so what's phase 2? Someone gave what I thought was a good suggestion to start a fund to endow an assistant coaching position. To me that is a positive goal the RU Foundation, and any charity for that matter, would accept. I think that would be a great idea to have posted and be bumped up on the board from time to time and see how much could be raised over the course of the year. It's an idea I think everyone could get behind.

I've said in the past that I've been making more unplanned spur of the moment donations lately every time the SL guys post something that I feel is unfair and gets me upset. Use my negative emotion/reaction and channel it towards a positive outcome. I think the same can be done here. I said in the other thread that negative always spurs more action than positive (example store/restaurant service). So I'd say use that negative emotion/frustration and put it towards a positive goal (like that coaching endowment) that can help the program in the long term beyond any one person sitting in the HC chair/AD chair/president's chair etc...

 

[RU#1fan]

Do you really think you are going to get 500 people to send Julie an email threatening to cancel season tickets? That would be much more difficult than getting people to take part in an internet fund raising campaign that everyone can follow live. Now if there was a way to keep a running tally of emails sent...

The other benefit of the gofundme campaign was it could have resulted in greater revenue for RU, as opposed to less, as in your scenario.

My email ( and letter) stating as such is going to JH in December if Fudd is coming back.

 

[RU62]

Again, thank you Hudson got making a nice point and in essence proving what the Foundation seeks. They encourage pledges or even multiple small donations or any donation one may choose to make. There is no need to go thru a third party who takes a fee thus minimizing your contribution snd even pethsps any ancillary benefits one might receive. And one can easily do this on line via a credit card when making a donation ot pledge. In fact you can set it up to have your checking account or credit card automatically debited/charged for what you may want on a monthly or periodic basis.

Are you an alumnus or donor? If so you should be very familiar with the process...if not then now you know. Thanks for your help.

 

[RU62]

Good job Westcoast! Perhaps those who feel the same way will follow suit.

 

[theRU]

Can I remind you that the Foundation indicated it would not accept any funds related to a fire Flood campaign. Isn't that what you are specifically raising/requesting funds for. Also just curious......do you know if the Rutgers Foundation has accepted any funds from gofundme for any purpose? Having worked at the Foundation I am not sure if they may have formally registered with gofundme orbl gofundme has conveniently listed the names of various 501c3 organizations on its own. If uou hsve the research info please share. You may be correct but I just don't understand why the Rutgers Foundation would go thru a 3rd party to collect funds for a fee when contributions can be made directly to the University itself and the donor receive all appropriate recognition and related benefits.

theRU, can or have you confirm with some official person at the Rutger Foundation that it indeed has registered itself with gofundme. That would seem to clear things up very quickly. We do know that it does not want to be involved in any funds received via a fire Flood initiative source etc. I've also done some homework on line regarding tax implications, reviews and potential warnings which are informative and at the same time might raise some of the same concerns I have. Again your purpose may be fine and with merit....it's the mechanics that might be in question.

By the way I understand the concept but question again why any organization with it's own 501c3 status would go thru a third party like this to raise funds when it has a full staff of its own...especially a University like Rutgers. But if you can confirm that some official person of authority such as the RU Foundation president signed up with gofundme then I will stand corrected.

- You don't have to remind anyone. Do they have a right to refuse? Yes- is it smart to refuse?- Debatable
- Did they endorse the campaign? NO...Was their response questioning the legitimacy of the fundraiser appropriate? NO!

RU is so dumb they probably didn't realize that they signed up for these crowd funding sites.

If you still dont understand the power of crowd funding after this 36 hr stint that we had, nothing can open your eyes.

How many people of those 130+ donors would have actually sent checks in to RU for the same cause? Maybe 1, 2,3?

This reached hundreds if not a few thousand people in a short span and solicited over $8000 with little effort. THAT IS THE BENEFIT... we didn't call anybody...we didn't harass anybody. it was EASY

 

[RU62]

TheRU, just so you and Cabbage know, I am reaching out to the Rutgers Foundation just to be sure and ascertain who and how this was done. If indeed someone of authority from the Foundation did sign up with the gofundme folks then I stand to be corrected. If not then my curiosity will be satisfied and we can move forward with your project. No problem.

 

[theRU]

TheRU, just so you and Cabbage know, I am reaching out to the Rutgers Foundation just to be sure and ascertain who and how this was done. If indeed someone of authority from the Foundation did sign up with the gofundme folks then I stand to be corrected. If not then my curiosity will be satisfied and we can move forward with your project. No problem.

While you are at it, ask them if we can start one for endowing an assistant coach position.

ask them about who registered them with firstgiving?

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I heard it reported today.. I think NJ101.5 or on News 12.. that Rutgers would refuse the donation should enough be raised to buy out his contract.

That is negligent of them. Who makes that decision and statement? Is it the AD? is it Barchi? Do they really think that Flood is the man to get this done here? They would turn their nose down at the money that might actually fix this problem and increase revenues over the next X years? because, certainly, Flood is going to cost Rutgers football revenues and donations over his remaining years here.

Maybe if someone at Rutgers said, indeed, money is an issue that is tying their hands in many regards and if X amount were to be raised they would certainly take that into consideration. It would be foolish to say otherwise.

Maybe if they did that, people might jump on the bandwagon, having this effort legitimized and this thing might actually take off.

Personally, I am convinced we could replace Flood and every other coach who is not getting it done for the same money and IMPROVE results. Maybe we won't win championships with bargain basement staff.. but we can find young and hungry up-and-comers who will do a better job than what we have been seeing. I am convinced of that.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Again, thank you Hudson got making a nice point and in essence proving what the Foundation seeks. They encourage pledges or even multiple small donations or any donation one may choose to make. There is no need to go thru a third party who takes a fee thus minimizing your contribution snd even pethsps any ancillary benefits one might receive. And one can easily do this on line via a credit card when making a donation ot pledge. In fact you can set it up to have your checking account or credit card automatically debited/charged for what you may want on a monthly or periodic basis.

Are you an alumnus or donor? If so you should be very familiar with the process...if not then now you know. Thanks for your help.

Oh Vey

Why did they register themselves on the site?

Do you think they announced they would turn the money down because the crowd funding platform takes a vig? or because my donation wouldn't be tax deductible? What is wrong with you?

They turned the donation down because of the symbolism. Because it's a movement to outflank their mamby pamby loser's narrative about lack of funds.

The reason why crowd funding is a superior alternative is convenience and viral marketing through psychology. You think people on social media would care if I linked the direct contribution site of the Foundation? The link to the GoFundMe was Facebooked, Tweeted and reported on by the media in ways direct links to teh Foundation never would be.

We've had direct links to the Foundation for years. It's an antiquated way of raising money. At best, crowd funding is the future. At worst, it is a perfectly viable, LEGITIMATE avenue of fundraising that should be embraced--rather than flatly refused.

This conversation reminds me of the Uber conversation from several months ago. People who don't understand mock...and then history allows us to put a nice bow on their wrongness.

 

[RU62]

Will certainly do this theRU. If the are now listed with firstgiving it gives me suspition that some of these sites just take it upon themselves to list the names of approved 501c3 organizations with the hope it will result in business. But let's wait until I receive an answer to my inquiry to the Foundation. Needless to say it will prove to be interesting one way or the other and hopefully end some speculation and put this situation to bed. I can live with things if it is shown that the Rutgers Foundation itself did indeed sign up with these sites. But if they didn't perhaps people will look at some other way to voice their concerns or displeasure. I suggested one viable way that apparently some of people understand and will pursue.

 

[RU62]

Ok my friends..theRU, Cabbage et al who continue to spread the rumor that theRutgers Foundation signed up for these sites, as promised checked with some people of authority at the Foundation and the word to me was someone has taken the Foundation's tax id number and name etc and signed them up. It's not too hard to do.

Unless you can prove otherwise I'll leave it at that. This has nothing to do with the premise of what several people may feel about the coaching situation. That becomes one's personal issue but as far as the Foundation's approval of soliciting funds thru gofundme or any other similar site that's not correct. So now it's my turn to request some people to not perpetuate this scam or idea as a funding source. 'Nuff said!