Destructive Approach by Some is Alarming
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Did you ask them if they'll be petitioning Gofundme, Firstgiving etc to be removed from their databases?
So some scoundrel has made it easier for RU to receive charitable donations?
Why hasn't Christie declared a state of emergency so we can ban this do gooder at the stake?
We got rid of Bateman, Burns, Anderson, Graber and Shea without the help of these idiots, many of whom began advancing their agenda the day Flood was hired. The admins don't need their help now, either. In fact the best reason to keep Flood is to demonstrate that neither the Star Ledger nor the critics run the the program.
Disagree all you want, but open your ears and eyes. When people resort to emotional ploys they start to lose credibility. Little story: I have a guy that works for me that complains, shoots from the hip, and jumps to conclusions all the time. I roll my eyes (as do many others) whenever he sends an email, calls, or asks for a meeting. It is a shame that his "good points" might be overlooked because of his approach. He is viewed as high maintenance... So what he is saying is lost in his inability to communicate with others. THIS sounds like SO many posters on this board. Your message is a good one here, but perhaps your emails have not been acknowledged because the recipients are rolling their eyes at what you're saying, or how you're saying it?
His point was earning 8k over 36 hours doesn't mean that you can make a linear forecast... And even if you could project an average of 200/hr, it would still take a full year to raise the money for the buyout. Removing the outliers, and using an average donation that would reflect most folks, it would still take over 100,000 people to get to the total - which is unreasonable. The only thing that was accomplished was providing the fodder for another embarrassing article on nj.com.
Ive had to take a message board break......I cant stomach all the multiple ways so called "fans" create to diss the coach and the program. Its even worse on Facebook these days.......I want no part of it OR the insults those "fans" hurl at you because to dont agree with them.....
Are you capable of listening to an opposing view without firing off insults?
Could have also been a student org looking to raise money through crowdfunding sites for the organization? Many of the student orgs that do fundraisers on behalf of 501c (e.g Dance Marathon) set up first giving and gofundme accounts since they're personalized.
TheRU, since you are so concerned etc about the gofundme issue why don't you check with the Foundation yourself then you can get an opinion of your own. I did my research and reported what I learned. I suggest you do the same and stop with the bs.
The issue here has nothing to do with yhe coaching situation. It's the credibility of the Foundation and some posters such as yourself who don't do decent due diligence or use some common sense. Again forget the Flood situation because we know this will be dealt with shortly and the general feeling of fans is clearly understood by those in charge. The key question is how they will react.
The issue here has nothing to do with yhe coaching situation. It's the credibility of the Foundation and some posters such as yourself who don't do decent due diligence or use some common sense. Again forget the Flood situation because we know this will be dealt with shortly and the general feeling of fans is clearly understood by those in charge. The key question is how they will react.
we're going to keep going in circles..you think gofundme is a fraud.. thats your position. Mine is the opposite.
The foundation credibility is at stake? i'm not even going to ask because i dont want to go in circles with you again on this issue.
Could have also been a student org looking to raise money through crowdfunding sites for the organization? Many of the student orgs that do fundraisers on behalf of 501c (e.g Dance Marathon) set up first giving and gofundme accounts since they're personalized.[/QUOTE said:
We got into the race 75 years too late and are not prepared financially to continue to play catch up. .Just as we blew our opportunity to become a force after our success in the mid 70's we have taken the Schiano Rice Sanu era and pissed on it. If that is an oversimplification then what I have been watching for 50 years has all been a dream. A very bad dream. I love this damned school but I will not continue to wait for a train that may never arrive at the station..
The Rah, I didn't say gofundme was a fraud..but it could be or not as ethical as you might imply. I said the Foundation never signed up with them or anyone else. And I did check it out...did you? Once again get your facts straight. You have your agenda and are so blind that you don't want to believe you've been proven wrong.
Did you graduate from Rutgers? If so you should have a bettet knowledge of the Foundation. All I am trying to point out is how you try to discredit the Foundation. The football coaching issue is another topic which I am not going to mention as like many I have my own opinion etc and can wait until the season is over to see how the administration handles it.
In the meanwhile I suggest you stop the bs and act like an adult and accept the fact that your are wrong if you think the Foundation signed up for these private fund raising sites. That's the issue. Football is separate.
Did you graduate from Rutgers? If so you should have a bettet knowledge of the Foundation. All I am trying to point out is how you try to discredit the Foundation. The football coaching issue is another topic which I am not going to mention as like many I have my own opinion etc and can wait until the season is over to see how the administration handles it.
In the meanwhile I suggest you stop the bs and act like an adult and accept the fact that your are wrong if you think the Foundation signed up for these private fund raising sites. That's the issue. Football is separate.
I think that this needs to stop! I am getting sick and tired of all the negative threads and fire Flood threads.
So i purpose a solution to stop it once and for all.
It is very simple.
All Rutgers has to do is...
FIRE FLOOD!!!!!
So i purpose a solution to stop it once and for all.
It is very simple.
All Rutgers has to do is...
FIRE FLOOD!!!!!
You are an idiot. Discredit the foundation? How? By donating to it through a crowdfunding platform??????
Your logic is the same as those who said its better to have a store front to sell merchandise instead of listing it on ebay and having them take a cut.
Foundation messed up and made themselves look foolish. All they needed to say was that "this is not an endorsed or sponsored Univeristy or Foundation fundraiser, however we cannot prevent our fans and Alumni from donating to us."
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Hey RU..anytime you want to discuss this in a civil manner off line I would be pleased to do so. Please leave contact information and I eill be glad to review this further with you. We are not going to discuss the coaching situation as that is an entirely different issue. And if the folks in charge don't realize that there is a large segment of Alumni, season ticket holders and fans who seem yo be displeased with what they see and hear then there is no hope for us
You do not need any fund raisng efforts by an outside organization that may be using the name of the Rutgers Foundation as an organization that has not been officially approved to solicit contributions in its name. What part don't you underdstand? And raising any funds under the guise of something else when your agenda has been stated is also not acceptable to the Foundation. Why would it be?
As I have previously noted as well as noted by others, all that is need is to people to inform those in charge of their sentiments...pro and con.
How can you not or refuse to understand thast any University can not and will not endorse a fund that calls for the resignation or firing of an employee. It's over.
You do not need any fund raisng efforts by an outside organization that may be using the name of the Rutgers Foundation as an organization that has not been officially approved to solicit contributions in its name. What part don't you underdstand? And raising any funds under the guise of something else when your agenda has been stated is also not acceptable to the Foundation. Why would it be?
As I have previously noted as well as noted by others, all that is need is to people to inform those in charge of their sentiments...pro and con.
How can you not or refuse to understand thast any University can not and will not endorse a fund that calls for the resignation or firing of an employee. It's over.
Discussion over. I just got an email from the Foundation that the use of crowdfunding websites is ok.
Again you are mixing up issues. MY FUNDRAISER didn't claim to be RU foundation...the proceeds from my fundraiser get sent to RU Foundation directly!!! that's the difference buddy.
GoFUNDME/firstgiving act as a 3rd party which handles the transactions giving people peace of mind that those funds don't go elsewhere.
I could have set up a personal fundraiser where funds COULD have gone to me personally under the premise that I would donate the money to get Flood fired and I CAN STILL DO THAT.
no, the only thing that stopped that campaign was that they refused to take that money. By refusing to take the money, the fundraiser is over. No point to create work for the processing companies to charge and then refund people.
So, if the fundraiser is started under a different pretense they will take it?
So basically, what they said, and what some posters have been repeating, about "fraud", is a lie. Shocker!
That has basically been the gist of this all along. The campaign was started in good faith, with funds to be directed to the registered RUFoundation charity with no strings attached. The foundation refused to accept the funds for the purpose of firing Flood, which on its face is fine. But all the additional conjecture in their response and by subsequent posters in this thread about fraudulent donations and the ethics of crowdfunding has been little more than ridiculous grandstanding and in some cases thinly veiled ignorance of an alternative way to solicit donations. The funny thing is, that there was a chance the campaign would fade away quietly with just the local media noticing. But with their quick public response, the RUfoundation nearly doubled the donations total in a matter of 8 hours and effectively legitimized the campaign with media exposure.
They can always choose to accept money based on where its coming from, and for what cause.
For example if we were a white supremacist group wanting to endow a "KKK" coaching position they would turn that away... and i have no issue with this... However, that could still be a perfectly legitimate fundraiser, but obviously UNSANCTIONED and NOT ENDORSED by the University.
ON the other hand, if i did a Personal Fundraiser under the pretense Fire Flood and intention to donate to RU, and accepted personal donations the following would be true:
1. Would not be tax deductible but could still be legit
or
2. If i kept the money, that would be fraudulent, and illegal.
lol everyone is coming together on this. I find myself agreeing with 90% of posters now.
I was thinking today though once we get rid of him it will be battle royale in between factions favoring various candidates, so let's enjoy it lol
I was thinking today though once we get rid of him it will be battle royale in between factions favoring various candidates, so let's enjoy it lol
Why do I get the feeling that the people "in authority" at the RU Foundation are probably among the older, unaware of crowdfunding kind of folks that we've seen on this board?
I'd wager that someone employed by the Foundation signed them up and the people in authority either were unaware that they had or basically thought the best way to approach this was to deny that they had.
We've seen one person involved in fundraising have absolutely no idea how crowdfunding works or why people use it. I hope the RU Foundation is more knowledgeable.
I'd wager that someone employed by the Foundation signed them up and the people in authority either were unaware that they had or basically thought the best way to approach this was to deny that they had.
We've seen one person involved in fundraising have absolutely no idea how crowdfunding works or why people use it. I hope the RU Foundation is more knowledgeable.
RU..and just who with any authority from the Foundation did your get your opinion. Mine was a senior VP with great credibility.
And if you set up your own fund yo get Flood fired and tried to send it to thr Foundation thry would not accept it for obvious reasons and regardless how much you might raise or try to camouflage it. You must think these pwipe are dumb and you can keep your purpose a secret.
Just how old are you and did you attend or graduate from Rutgers. It always helps to get some feel for the maturity level of who one is having a discussion with. And again no one said these third party groups are frauds. You used this word not me. And I have to assume they operate within the law, I am just questioning if they serve any purpose for regular 501c3 organizations that could or is not being done by the organization itself. Maybe for a small one but not for a university the size of Rutgers.
And if you set up your own fund yo get Flood fired and tried to send it to thr Foundation thry would not accept it for obvious reasons and regardless how much you might raise or try to camouflage it. You must think these pwipe are dumb and you can keep your purpose a secret.
Just how old are you and did you attend or graduate from Rutgers. It always helps to get some feel for the maturity level of who one is having a discussion with. And again no one said these third party groups are frauds. You used this word not me. And I have to assume they operate within the law, I am just questioning if they serve any purpose for regular 501c3 organizations that could or is not being done by the organization itself. Maybe for a small one but not for a university the size of Rutgers.
Are you saying that the RU Foundation has not accepted any donations from any GoFundMe fundraiser? I find that completely difficult to believe if they are registered with GoFundMe. They are STILL registered as a certified charity with GoFundMe after being told to shut down the FireFlood fundraiser. theRU understands the Foundations reasoning for not accepting the donations. He doesn't appreciate the fraudulant claims that insinuate that he is stealing from people instead of raising money for the Rutgers University Foundation.
Ding ding ding! I'm no longer answering this person. They don't know whats happening in the digital age.
Maybe you can also explain to him, that if by some miracle we were able to raise 1.5 milllion dollars, you better believe the foundation would take it, and depending on the mood in the Athletics department we may get whatever we want.
damnit i said i wouldnt respond to you anymore but i will one last time.
You know what purpose they serve? They have minimal overhead. Instead of having to rely on volunteers or paid employees running a massive fundraising campaign you take advantage of viral marketing, social media, tweets, retweets, shares, likes etc. to get your message out in waves. You reach people you never would reach, all for 5% cut for go fund me and 4% first giving who processes transactions. I'd guess the foundation operates at 75% efficiency and that's being generous.
And yes i'm an RU grad...MODERN generation who understands that Viral doesn't mean illness.
