Again, based on what is it NOT true? Is it us? Because based on him interviewing, literally, everywhere else, I would say that he might have interest but it's really not that important, would you agree? Or at least can you understand where I'm coming from?
Done with Schiano? I am.
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Again, based on what is it NOT true? Is it us? Because based on him interviewing, literally, everywhere else, I would say that he might have interest but it's really not that important, would you agree? Or at least can you understand where I'm coming from?
Listen, I would hope so, but again, this is just how I'm feeling about the situation right now, I am allowed to express my opinion, right?
If JH was still AD the chances of him coming here were zero. With her gone, maybe 20 percent chance. I'm starting to warm up to The Tie. All he needs is a Houndstooth hat and he'll be our own Bear Bryant !
I would never presume to censor your opinions Nuts. But in times like this emotion runs high on this board. We all want the coach hired now. That why we're checking this board 1,000 times per day. I'm just pointing out that with experienced negotiators like Schiano and Hobbs, this deal, if it gets done, was never going to happen in 2 days. If it gets done it might not happen until Schiano loses all leverage from other openings. Then if he's in the position where it's Rutgers or another year away from a head coaching job, maybe Schiano's demands get to a level where Hobbs will consider them. Sure it would make all of us feel great if the second Flood was fired, Greg came running back to Rutgers with tears in his eyes, crying "I never should have left." That was never going to happen. And if he decides to come back a week from now, it won't make any difference than if he did it the first day. What will matter is the product on the field.
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Oh, that's the year Greg turned the team around, won 7 in a row and we absolutely smoked many of the teams.....but you were done after the first game. Nice. During that run, we hung 54 on Pittsburgh, 49 on South Florida and 63 on Louisville.
He definitely has interest. Can't say confidently say how much, obviously everyone knows he wanted Miami, but there certainly is interest. I get where you're coming from, but Hobbs ain't making a phone call.
That was the year many on this board thought Schiano should have been fired because he wouldn't bench Teal and start DC Jefferson at QB.
Has it been confirmed that he interviewed anywhere besides Miami? Seems to me his agent is just throwing his name out there, and was doing so even while he was with the Bucs.
I would take Schiano over anyone else named here aside from Mullen. He is by far and away more proven.
If the admin would take Golden or Cristobal over Schiano they should be drug tested.
I would take Schiano over anyone else named here aside from Mullen. He is by far and away more proven.
If the admin would take Golden or Cristobal over Schiano they should be drug tested.
I was done with Schiano when left for the NFL......move on already from this overrated ego maniac....Schiano 2.0 is same as 1.0.......I want someone innovative; a good gameday coach etc
This is all so funny, all of you pronouncing "I am done with Schiano" or "Greg used up his 72 hours, drop him"...no one here has any idea whether he is interested, whether RU is interested, whether RU has contacted him. Why not just let it play out and see what happens? Or wait for you--know-who to pronounce "take it to the bank."
Fair enough guys and, like I said, in the end I'm ready to go full blown balls-to-the-wall in support of our next coach, Greg or anyone else, just have a bad taste right now and felt the need to express it. Sorry to those who this bothers.
Bottom line: no KF = happy me (saying "NUTS" would have sounded weird...lol).
Bottom line: no KF = happy me (saying "NUTS" would have sounded weird...lol).
Move on..so many battered wives on here
Double LOL,
Comparatively, we don't even have a rabid fanbase. To suggest a coach wouldn't want to come here because of fan scrutiny is ludicrous and actually funny
How are you coping Bac? This must be the perfect storm for you. Julie fired and Schiano possibly on the way back?
If this is Greg's negotiating strategy he's really bad at it. He lost a lot of leverage when he Miami went in a different direction. His number drops everyday. And, if you're implying this is RU's strategy, enough is enough. The guy is getting killed by every fanbase in the country and even RU fans are turning against him. Not exactly the conquering hero entry that many were hoping for. You don't want your new coach to feel like a loser when he takes the job
For all the people done with Schiano, he got more than double the votes than the next guy in the poll on our favorite website:
Former Rutgers coach Greg Schiano 39.58% (5,861 votes)
Temple coach Matt Rhule 18.42% (2,728 votes)
Former Miami coach Al Golden 14.82% (2,195 votes)
Alabama offensive line coach Mario Cristobal 11.82% (1,750 votes)
Other: 7.36% (1,090 votes)
Western Michigan coach P.J. Fleck 6.35% (940 votes)
Bowling Green coach Dino Babers 1.65% (244 votes)
Total Votes: 14,808
That's one way to interpret it but not surprising. I've said before it's human nature to reach for the comfortable and familiar, that's Schiano. Another way to look at it is 60% want someone else besides him. Always 2 sides to the coin.
Also wouldn't say we've moved on from him either. Sounded like Mizzou moved on from Odom and he just got the job.
Then 82% don't want the next highest vote getter. I wouldn't want you in my analysis department.
None of the other names are as familiar or as comfortable Schiano. You're comparing a guy who coached here for a decade to names that people are somewhat familiar to not familiar at all. On top of which how many of those people who voted could give me very many details on all the various candidates. I'm sure they could on Schiano. Even here I've looked up stuff on various candidates and repeat it many times and the knowledge still doesn't filter through the population of the board.
Are you high? Greg's absolute stubbornness and mishandling of quarterbacks (in this case, not being able to sit Teel for even a quarter) was on full display and almost cost going to a bowl game. I think if he had done so earlier, Teel would have snapped out of it earlier and we would have won the Big East and went to a BCS bowl.
Greg always had a wandering eye when he was here. There's no doubt in my mind that if Jo Pa had retired when he was here he would have taken the PSU job in s heartbeat. His agent will use RU as leverage to get the max deal on the job he really wants.
I'm high? So sitting him would have helped his game? Too funny. You are just like the many fans that wanted Laviano to start over Nova last year, and then wanted Rettig to start over Laviano this year. Guess what? Nova was the better choice in 2014 (by far) and Teel in 2008. Glad Flood didn't listen to the fans last year, even though our fans thought Laviano had "moxie". Sometimes the back ups don't start or play for a reason. How about giving Schiano credit, as it turned out to be one of the best statistical seasons a QB ever had at RU, and that's after a slow start. Our back-up was Dom Natalie.....so that's who you wanted in?
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I think that maybe the totality of the negative comments about his coaching ability contributed to his attitude to some degree. I was one of the critical ones.
Now I don't believe that he sits up every night and reads these threads, but would bet that he would check back in once in a while to see what people are saying just out of curiosity. Especially since during his job search.
I really don't understand the strong desire to bring Greg Schiano back.
My God, I could go back to this board the season before he left. I would say it was probably 50-50, maybe 60-40 on pro-Schiano. Most people thought the act had worn thin and we had plateaued. Some actively wanted him gone. I was probably more in the "he hasn't done anything to deserve to get fired, but we're probably not winning championships as long as he's here" camp.
Four years later, and it's incredible how many people think that Greg Schiano has to come back here and be the coach - that he's the best candidate we can get - that we need to breathlessly wait for any trickle of news about his impending interviews.
Is that how much the last four years have beaten us down? That we're so desperate for a name coach so we don't look like "same old Rutgers" that we'd take back the guy a good portion of the fanbase didn't even want here in the first place? Seriously, I've got people on this board preaching the virtues of Al Golden - the same Al Golden whose team was so embarassingly awful against Clemson that the Miami administration had to fire him the next day.
On the same hand, let's stop with the completely unsubstantiated Dan Mullen talk, or the Chip Kelly talk, or the idea that we absolutely have to poach an existing P5 coach because half of the B1G head coaches today were either previously assistants or, at best, mid-major HC's before they got their jobs. It would be great to get a big splashy hire. But guess what? We might not. We might end up with an Ohio State assistant from the Urban Meyer tree, and that's worked out a whole lot more than it hasn't.
So at the end of the day, I'm done with the breathless Greg Schiano speculation. (which I admit to feeding into) There's no evidence that he wants to come back here, and there's also no evidence we've made a strong pitch to get him to come back. I appreciate what he did here, wish him well in his future endeavors and hope he does great unless he's coaching against us. And if for some reason he ends up coming back to Rutgers to be our head coach, well, then he'll be our guy and I'll support him.
But I'm sure as hell not going to stress anymore about what his intentions are, what RU's intentions are, or to psychoanalyze Greg or read anything into what interview he takes or what he had for dinner last night. (it was probably spaghetti, if I had to guess)
Sorry, rant over. :)
My God, I could go back to this board the season before he left. I would say it was probably 50-50, maybe 60-40 on pro-Schiano. Most people thought the act had worn thin and we had plateaued. Some actively wanted him gone. I was probably more in the "he hasn't done anything to deserve to get fired, but we're probably not winning championships as long as he's here" camp.
Four years later, and it's incredible how many people think that Greg Schiano has to come back here and be the coach - that he's the best candidate we can get - that we need to breathlessly wait for any trickle of news about his impending interviews.
Is that how much the last four years have beaten us down? That we're so desperate for a name coach so we don't look like "same old Rutgers" that we'd take back the guy a good portion of the fanbase didn't even want here in the first place? Seriously, I've got people on this board preaching the virtues of Al Golden - the same Al Golden whose team was so embarassingly awful against Clemson that the Miami administration had to fire him the next day.
On the same hand, let's stop with the completely unsubstantiated Dan Mullen talk, or the Chip Kelly talk, or the idea that we absolutely have to poach an existing P5 coach because half of the B1G head coaches today were either previously assistants or, at best, mid-major HC's before they got their jobs. It would be great to get a big splashy hire. But guess what? We might not. We might end up with an Ohio State assistant from the Urban Meyer tree, and that's worked out a whole lot more than it hasn't.
So at the end of the day, I'm done with the breathless Greg Schiano speculation. (which I admit to feeding into) There's no evidence that he wants to come back here, and there's also no evidence we've made a strong pitch to get him to come back. I appreciate what he did here, wish him well in his future endeavors and hope he does great unless he's coaching against us. And if for some reason he ends up coming back to Rutgers to be our head coach, well, then he'll be our guy and I'll support him.
But I'm sure as hell not going to stress anymore about what his intentions are, what RU's intentions are, or to psychoanalyze Greg or read anything into what interview he takes or what he had for dinner last night. (it was probably spaghetti, if I had to guess)
Sorry, rant over. :)
That's as much of an assumption as his assumption. Well, actually, I think your assumption is probably more likely than his. But still, when everybody's working off assumptions, it seems a bit too presumptuous to so aggressively demonize the other guys' assumptions.
Sorry. But it did give me the venue to vent and I appreciate it. ;)
True. Our fans can be very provincial sometimes.
Hm. Or maybe it would be more appropriate to say that all sports fans can be very provincial sometimes.
Exactly. Although I would guess that Hobbs or the search agency have been putting out feelers here and there.
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