Understood. It's quite possible I tipped back a few that night when I responded and didn't realize the "?" in your response. Either way, no harm and no hard feelings.
Enough about coaches...What 10 Grapplers will represent The State University of New Jersey next season
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Hmm looking at Flo’s preseason rankings(they didn’t rank fr but Lilledhal apparently will be a factor). Peterson is ranked 12th.. but scrolling through the top 20 anyone can beat anyone it seems…fun weight.
Poz was r12 but some reason is ranked 16th preseason(no fr ranked also). Top guys will be Cstar, Buchanan, Cardenas, Elam, Salazar, Little, Alredd, Beard.. won’t be ez to AA this weight..
I guess next likely guy to AA would be Turley and he’s ranked 14th.. top guys would be Otoole, Haines, Welsh, Hamiti, Devos , Arnold…this weight is top heavy n a bad seed draw would be night night probably..
Idk 4-5 AA I don’t see it.. we would need guys to make Shawver like lvl jumps..
I was about to say I don’t think both Shawver and Yara repeat AA is a lock.. maybe individually each is a fav to AA but for both again it might be closer to 50/50..
Think about it the years after Poz and Turley got their first AA every RU fan is penciling them next year to be a “gtd” AA or maybe even a NC but you never know what can happen.. inj, mental, regression, burnout, incoming fresh, weight issues etc.. it’s not just RU but any wrestler not contending for NC or a top podium spot, barring inj, isn’t a lock to AA again.. 4x AA is still a really good accomplishment imo..
Mb if I come off pessimistic but I like to view both side of the coin and am more of a realist preferring to focus on facts and data points.. we also had surprise AA like Turley, Perrotti, and Theobold so I can see the optimism. Maybe this will be our best squad ever and we can get 3-5AA but yeah we’ll see 🤞🤞
Poz and Turley both AA’d in a year where no Ivy League athletes participated and a number of studs were on Olympic redshirt. Combine that with the fact that it was a free year and nobody in the country had to leave the field because of eligibility requirements and you’re left with a much deeper field the following year. It was always going to be harder repeat the AA status from that season
Not that it will be easy for both Shawver and Yara but they’re not going to be fighting the same uphill battle that Poz and Turley did.
Good point about Poz covid/ivy year.. I thought Turley AA in a normal year but wit a insane backside run.. I remember him being around ranked 6 or 7 in the preseason polls the following year…. Point still remains the same as in RU fans penciled them both in as locks to AA the following year.. some even calling Poz a NC contender..
I don’t think anyone penciled Turley in. Every acknowledged the talent he has but it was always going to be tough for a guy who’s been consistently ranked in the 20-25 range most of his career and simply caught fire for one weekend.
Poz was a NC contender at the time. He took 4th as a true freshman and wrestled Keckeisen, who just won a title, extremely tight. Circumstances have changed including some burnout, mental fatigue and a bump up in weights but he’s still good enough to be an AA candidate.
Preseason rankings are usually just a recollection of the previous years AA’s. Personally I thought a repeat performance was possible but I would hardly call that penciling it in.
Refs came in today. This years class looked great.
Some wrestled 1 match some wrestled 2.
Barbosa Dec Desantis 10-3
Harer tech condomitti 15-0 in 2 mins
Oliveri utb Hermes
Harer tech weaver 20-4 second period
Shawver Dec dean 4-1
Ford Dec Blanchette 3-2
Some wrestled 1 match some wrestled 2.
Barbosa Dec Desantis 10-3
Harer tech condomitti 15-0 in 2 mins
Oliveri utb Hermes
Harer tech weaver 20-4 second period
Shawver Dec dean 4-1
Ford Dec Blanchette 3-2
Harer will be the 157lb starter from day 1
Guys certified earlier and they are not are not down to their weights...will be down week 1. Bolded weights should be their competition weights
It looks like Olivieri and Hermes are close enough that either could prevail in wrestle-offs. Is A. Nini not challenging at 141?
Once their weights settle in, it will be interesting to see which of Barbosa, Ford, and Blanchette prevails at 165. Or White?
Thanks, Bethemanandlegen, for sharing.
I would say Olivieri will be the guy. Olivieri wins close matches-Hermes loses close matches, he does not have any big wins, just close losses. Olivieri is the better option. Nini will redshirt in my opinion, not sure he is ready.
165-White, but do not count out any of the true Frosh. I would not be surprised if Barbosa takes over the spot.
White probably has a Connor Oneill type of leash where it’s either now or never. I get he’s a great kid and a workhorse in practice but his development has been stagnant at best since his redshirt year. If he’s not the guy it’s time to try to see if anyone else can be. Personally I like DeSantis the best of all those middleweights if the weight checks out. I don’t think he’ll win many big 10 matches but I think he’s got the most fight in him.
DeSantis has improved a lot since entering RU, but Barbosa just beat him 10-3 the other day....DeSantis is a depth guy
Agreed but every guy we have at 165 is a depth guy. Didn’t see that score though. Hopefully Barbosa is decent.
I know a few. Have not talked to anyone lately
Walsh over Soldano
Shawver 3-1 over Peterson
Harer 13-1 over cetta
Oliveri 2-1 tb over fongaro
Barbosa 9-3 over white
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Thanks again for posting this. Harer appears to be the real deal if his lopsided matches are any indication. I hope he is the starter at 157 and doesn't get pushed to 165. Barbosa may have just answered the doubts about White. Oliveri is just barely winning in tiebreakers. I hope Hermes is given some time at 141. And the big surprise is Walsh over Soldano. Goodale has been praising Walsh as one of the best in the room. I've never thought saying "one of" was very definitive, but maybe he has improved that much over last year? Or is Soldano fading? He's yet another to have his best year straight out of high school. Better to use those new guys now while they're at their best.
Pretty sure Nini will be at 149. Goodale has said in multiple interviews that he looks great and will get his 5 matches but he does think he will redshirt.
I too, would have liked to see that, or at least how he compares in matches with others. His recent world championship participation with Italy was at a weight closer to 141.
Some eye raising results in there for sure. Your updates are much appreciated.
Soldano should redshirt and come down to 174 next year when Turley leaves. If Walsh is better let him take over 184 this year.
I do not see any world where Walsh is a better wrestler than Soldano. One indicator match isn’t an end all be all but it is concerning that these head scratching losses are happening for him quite often.
Harer beating the snot out of Cetta is surprising to me.
IMO, Cetta is a top 33 wrestler and would qualify for the NCAA
Good sign.
IMO, Cetta is a top 33 wrestler and would qualify for the NCAA
Good sign.
While I agree Soldano always seems to look small at 184, he weighed over 197 at certifications. Not sure how easy of a cut 174 would be for him.
Why can’t he be? Walsh has been improving and Soldano has been regressing sadly.. if Walsh is beating him then Soldano should RS.. this isn’t the same Soldano a few matches in to his career where he was bonusing everyone and some people were already announcing him as the next big thing…
I thought Oliveri would be a stronger candidate for 141 coming off redshirt. Seems that year did nothing to progress his skills and we're still seeing the same just squeaking by. Not expecting much from him, maybe make Nationals. Defensive guys on a whole, don't get very far.
He has been hurt I do believe no matches.
I expected him to be weaker. He did very little last year and we learned at the end of the season that he had been injured. Redshirt was more like time off. Besides, I have seen very few come back demonstrably better from redshirting. I'd like to see Hermes and Nini competing for that spot.
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