Oh, gawd, another? Hurt or injured? Gibson and now Nini. I'm hoping Gibson doesn't become another Vulakh or Raimo.
Enough about coaches...What 10 Grapplers will represent The State University of New Jersey next season
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Never know.. honestly soldano has underachieved. It’s not like he’s been a hammer and he gets out muscled against bigger guys at 184.
It’s a different level of defense but Nick Suriano won 2 national titles and Daton Fix was a 5x finalist. You don’t need to be a high scorer to win, you just have to be elite at what you do. I think Olivieri is fine, he’s always going to be in low scoring bouts.
I don’t disagree that Soldano’s development is stalling but you’re off you’re rocker if you think Walsh gives us a better chance to win big 10 matches.
Again, you can pick out examples here and there but on a whole, offensive guys constantly on the attack are much more successful. The Grello's of wrestling will only go so far.
Goody went out of his way to praise Walsh and he beat Soldano reportedly. It's plausible he has taken steps forward and Soldano has not (or even regressed).
I mean, comparing Olivieri to Nick or Daton is kind of silly. Really?
Maybe you're there in the room, but Soldano has under achieved, especially last year, and he is too small at 184. He should redshirt this year and go 174 next year. Not saying C-W is a better option this year.
I specifically pointed out that they’re a different level of wrestler. The point was you don’t have to be a high scorer to be good.
That’s true, but how good is Olivieri? Has he gotten better is the point imo…if he didn’t develop new ways to score then hopefully his defense gotten even better..
Well idk who gives us a better chance at b10 matches.. we dunno how much Walsh has improved.. he’s improved enough to beat Soldano though—so that might just be a room familiarity thing? But it’s certianly alarming..
He’s probably gotten better at defending a front headlock after spending a year in the room with Moore
Horrible comparison. Nick and Daton had great bonus numbers. Yeah when they faced top 10 guys the scores were close and they relied on defense, but against everyone else they were bonus point guys
We really don't know. On one hand, I was told that Soldano had bulked up, but then he lost to Walsh. Goodale praised Walsh, but he's praised others who didn't back it up. It is possible that someone like Walsh, with a good attitude and drive, could make a big improvement. Maybe he'll incent Soldan to improve. If Brian does look bigger this year, 174 is out of the question. Besides, it seems Chapman is a possibility for 174 next year. He seems to have potential.
Last ones I heard
Ford 4-3 over Blanchette
Shawver 5-4 fonagaro
Harer 4-1 over Turley
Barbosa 12-2 white
Clark 7-2 Cetta
Ford 4-3 over Blanchette
Shawver 5-4 fonagaro
Harer 4-1 over Turley
Barbosa 12-2 white
Clark 7-2 Cetta
Wait a minute. You said "Harer 4-1 over Turley"? No, Turley is going for an NC this year. Was that auto-spell-check going haywire?
These matches don’t mean a ton. It’s early season and no one as far as I know is wrestling after making weight. Look at the Shawver match. Guy is a big 10 champ and AA but is only 1 point better than Fongaro who is a depth guy? Take the results with a grain of salt.
The backups scrap with the starters all year long. They know their ins and outs. It should be expected that upsets and tight matches are going to be a part of the process.
The backups scrap with the starters all year long. They know their ins and outs. It should be expected that upsets and tight matches are going to be a part of the process.
Everyone’s unspoken goal should be to NC/AA so I always hated that “what is your goals?” Question. And I get the power of beliefs and “willing it to existence” but when it’s percieved by the majority as unlikely to happen better to keep your goals a secret and will it to existence In silence imo..
Announcing it aloud might seem commendable but it will just come off as cringy bc it will either feel like the reader’s intelligence is insulted or that you’re delusional.
Best lineup seems to be:
Peterson
Shawver
Olivieri
Clark
Harer
Barbosa
Turley
Soldano
Poznanski
Yara
Harer and Barbosa both seem ready to compete now.
Peterson
Shawver
Olivieri
Clark
Harer
Barbosa
Turley
Soldano
Poznanski
Yara
Harer and Barbosa both seem ready to compete now.
Of course, I was being facetious. I have had confidence in Turley when he was in shape and healthy. He's one of those guys who could beat anyone (or nearly) on any given day. His recent comments were not a result of any obligatory statements but seemed more from the heart and because of feeling in a healthy state. I do wish him the best. It does make me wonder how much Harer weighs. I want to think he's close to his targeted 157, giving up ~20 pounds to Turley.
About not taking these matches seriously, or with a grain of salt, one must wonder why they would have them if not taken seriously. I would hope that each wrestler would see it as an opportunity to show their stuff. Certainly, Harer and Barbosa are. I'm hoping to see the best man at each weight class and only redshirting if they're not.
Peterson
Shawver
Olivieri - Hermes - Fongaro
Clark - if he stays healthy
Harer - little doubt
Barbosa - little doubt
Turley
Soldano - Walsh, or the reverse
Poznanski - Does Casale have a chance?
Yara
Barbosa is not competing(Blanchett got teched). Barbosa looks to be the best option at 16(although a little undersized)
Well, he's not having much trouble with the other candidates for 165, including White. He can eat and work out. I just hope he doesn't redshirt.
I agree with you, I would like to see him start....but the decision is not always "who is the best for the weight" It is a combo of coaches, wrestlers etc discussing the situation. For example, if he is the best in room, but goes 500 on season...is that best for Barbosa? Tough decisions ahead.
If he would go 500 on the season, what do you suppose White would do? I think the experience would be good for his development. I have not seen Rutgers guys who redshirt come back better.
Like I said, I would like to see him start. Just saying there are a lot of moving parts to a starter.
Yup, let's mention the exceptions and consider it the rule. How about all the others?
Per you, "I have not seen Rutgers guys who redshirt come back better." You were given two examples where one person came back, got a B1G championship along with an AA. The second finished a four time AA, three time B1G champ, and a national champ. And you come back with "exceptions"??? How about John Van Brill? Mike Van Brill? Poz who came back after regressing after freshman year and almost AA'd last year? Delvecchio and Theo both RS and ended up AA. That's a swing and a miss by you.
Richie Lewis a took a redshirt/medical and had his best season immediately afterwards. Dean Peterson also took a redshirt and also had his best season yet the following year. Poz was better after his redshirt year vs. the season prior (R12 vs R16). Obviously his freshman year was his best but its not apples to apples since the NCAA tournament didn't have the Ivy's, etc.
There are definitely others but besides the ones that were previously mentioned above, those three stuck out. There needs to be a delineation between depth guys taking a redshirt to hopefully grow/develop into a someone who can contribute one day down the road versus a highly touted recruit who was expected to contribute, but maybe needed a year to grow/develop on the mat, adjust to college athlete grind (school, etc), or just mature overall.
It’s almost like there’s no one-size-fits-all model for development. Some wrestlers get better with time. Some wrestlers need a reset. Some peak early, some peak late. The guy who thinks he’s never wrong because he makes really vague predictions and only revisits the ones that hit will never get that.
