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[Scarlet Jerry]

Here are the latest admission stats for Rutgers - the numbers speak for themselves. Rutgers is difficult to get into, based on these stats. Yes, if you have an outstanding high school record where you are a legitimate candidate for an Ivy or MIT, then it might be a safety school for you, but not if you are a typical high achieving student. My nephew had outstanding academic credentials with multiple honors classes and a very high GPA, and he did not get into the Honors College, so the kids that are there are the real deal. Anyway, here are the stats for the middle 50% of admitted students:

https://admissions.rutgers.edu/site...ents/1718-0238 Admissions Profile 18_0726.pdf

Scarlet Jerry

 

[NotInRHouse]

I guess that depends on how you define "soar" After the 2006 breakout football season, Rutgers-New Brunswick saw a modest 10% bump in freshman applications for 2007 and 2008. Compare that to the about 30% increase into 2016 after the med school merger was approved in 2012.

Year - Applications
2002 - 26,678
2003 - 27,311
2004 - 24,434
2005 - 25,462
2006 - 27,560
2007 - 28,208
2008 - 29,547
2009 - 28,624
2010 - 29,532
2011 - 28,582
2012 - 28,635
2013 - 30,631
2014 - 31,168
2015 - 35,322
2016 - 36,677

The B1G was announced in Nov 2012, could be that too

 

[retired711]

Here are Berkeley's numbers from a couple of years ago. Keep in mind that Berkeley rejects a lot of applicants who meet these SAT #s: it's not like Rutgers where your scores can get you in without additional questions being asked. But I'm pleased that Rutgers' numbers are getting better every year. Rutgers is certainly not a safety school except, as Scarlet Jerry says, for the very top of the applicant pool. I would be interested in how we compare to the rest of the B1G.

https://admissions.berkeley.edu/student-profile

 

[audriti]

Idk I think I just have such friends who are Ivy league caliber academically because most of them are in the honors college but did not have the extracurriculars for an Ivy. If you go to a good high school you are guaranteed to get in to rutgers. Only 2 people have ever been rejected in my high school's history but they got into Ivies. More than a 1/4 of my school's grade got the presidential and around 1/2 got the honors college. It definitely depends on the school you go to and your environment. Rutgers is a good school and is getting more difficult to get into, but it's not difficult to get in to yet and it's still a safety school to people who can't get into ivies.

 

[retired711]

BTW, here are Ohio State's #s. I don't know what year they're from, but they compare favorably to the Rutgers #s above. I think we once had a thread about this, and there were a number of B1G schools that are more selective than Rutgers. ttps://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/ohio/ohio-state-university-main-campus/admission/

 

[Upstream]

The B1G was announced in Nov 2012, could be that too

Could be. Of course the big jump is 2015, the year the Honors College opened. So maybe it's that.

Or maybe it is a combination of a bunch of things. But it certainly doesn't look like a winning FB program, in and of itself, significantly moves the needle.

 

[Upstream]

Here are the latest admission stats for Rutgers - the numbers speak for themselves. Rutgers is difficult to get into, based on these stats. Yes, if you have an outstanding high school record where you are a legitimate candidate for an Ivy or MIT, then it might be a safety school for you, but not if you are a typical high achieving student. My nephew had outstanding academic credentials with multiple honors classes and a very high GPA, and he did not get into the Honors College, so the kids that are there are the real deal. Anyway, here are the stats for the middle 50% of admitted students:

https://admissions.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/media/Documents/1718-0238 Admissions Profile 18_0726.pdf

Scarlet Jerry

Curious how that compares to enrolled students

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Aud, two kids rejected ...EVER ? Without saying which one, are you talking about schools like The Lawrenceville School, Stuart Country Day, Peddie, Pingry, Kent Place, etc. Just for the heck of it, go check various schools—Coastal Carolina, Wyoming, Rider. If they think Rutgers is easy to get into, check rates at schools like that.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

I think the increase in applications, is the combination of many factors, entrance into the Big Ten bringing in more apps from around the state, the nation, and even international, the acquisition of the Med School, the Honors College, all the new dorms and sprucing up the Livingston and College Ave campuses, the new Business, Nursing, Chemistry, and Engineering buildings, expansion of Pharmacy, Engineering, Nursing programs, the new Rutgers theaters opening in Sept at the NBPAC, more outreach via Rutgers on the Road, renewed interest by high school girls in the Douglass campus

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Some signs that show how much interest there is in Rutgers these days—

General campus tours—fully booked for August
Engineering tours—fully booked for August
Honors College tours—fully booked for August

 

[audriti]

Aud, two kids rejected ...EVER ? Without saying which one, are you talking about schools like The Lawrenceville School, Stuart Country Day, Peddie, Pingry, Kent Place, etc. Just for the heck of it, go check various schools—Coastal Carolina, Wyoming, Rider. If they think Rutgers is easy to get into, check rates at schools like that.

My school used to be #1 in NJ because it's a vocational school. 1/4 of our grade was national merit scholars. It definitely is harder to get into rutgers by different schools but from the school I go to it is very easy. That's not to say that many people from my school don't go to rutgers; it's just that when someone asks us where we go we usually have to say the (place school here) honors college.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

One thing about college is that within 12 months, you wont care one bit what your high school friends think of you. I hope you enjoy RU and wish you the best in and out if the classroom. I haven’t been inside the Honors College, but it does look great from the outside.

 

[audriti]

One thing about college is that within 12 months, you wont care one bit what your high school friends think of you. I hope you enjoy RU and wish you the best in and out if the classroom. I haven’t been inside the Honors College, but it does look great from the outside.

Thank you! I know I'll have a blast.

 

[retired711]

I think the increase in applications, is the combination of many factors, entrance into the Big Ten bringing in more apps from around the state, the nation, and even international, the acquisition of the Med School, the Honors College, all the new dorms and sprucing up the Livingston and College Ave campuses, the new Business, Nursing, Chemistry, and Engineering buildings, expansion of Pharmacy, Engineering, Nursing programs, the new Rutgers theaters opening in Sept at the NBPAC, more outreach via Rutgers on the Road, renewed interest by high school girls in the Douglass campus

This may no longer be true, but when I was involved in such things I was told that Douglass seemed to attract many applications from minority and immigrant girls whose parents were very concerned about keeping them from getting too involved with men, e.g. co-ed dorms. I don't know if this is true any more. I agree with Heaven that a lot of things have gone into the increase in applications, but, again, I wonder whether other B1G schools are finding the same thing.

 

[Sir ScarletKnight]

I remember when I was involved with admissions we were getting an increasing amount of calls from people who didn't understand how they got rejected from Rutgers. It was supposed to be their "safety school."

 

[Knight Shift]

My school used to be #1 in NJ because it's a vocational school. 1/4 of our grade was national merit scholars. It definitely is harder to get into rutgers by different schools but from the school I go to it is very easy. That's not to say that many people from my school don't go to rutgers; it's just that when someone asks us where we go we usually have to say the (place school here) honors college.

Hi there. You may get to meet my son soon. Maybe you guys know each other. He graduated from Biotech High School, and will be going to Rutgers Honors College this fall. Money was not a consideration in his decision. We would have paid for him to go to any school he chose. We were surprised, however, when he was not admitted to many of his first choice schools. He chose Rutgers Honors College over UCLA. Like you, he had excellent grades in an IB high school and SAT scores in excess of 1500. He had strong extracurricular activities too.
Many of his classmates will be going to Rutgers Honors College too. We are not aware of a stigma associated with Rutgers, any he is quite excited to be going to Rutgers

 

[audriti]

Hi there. You may get to meet my son soon. Maybe you guys know each other. He graduated from Biotech High School, and will be going to Rutgers Honors College this fall. Money was not a consideration in his decision. We would have paid for him to go to any school he chose. We were surprised, however, when he was not admitted to many of his first choice schools. He chose Rutgers Honors College over UCLA. Like you, he had excellent grades in an IB high school and SAT scores in excess of 1500. He had strong extracurricular activities too.
Many of his classmates will be going to Rutgers Honors College too. We are not aware of a stigma associated with Rutgers, any he is quite excited to be going to Rutgers

I also went to that high school, so I probably know your son. I'm sorry if my post came off like I'm not excited to go to Rutgers. I really am excited to go to rutgers and can hopefully see your son again

 

[Knight Shift]

I also went to that high school, so I probably know your son. I'm sorry if my post came off like I'm not excited to go to Rutgers. I really am excited to go to rutgers and can hopefully see your son again

No need to apologize.
Many people on this board went to Rutgers long before Rutgers had an Honors College, and we have done well.

After you graduate college and get your first job, or go to graduate school or professional school, where you went to college for your undergraduate degree will matter very little. You have the advantage of having the Honors College, which will be a huge advantage should you apply to graduate or professional school. Also, should you leave the State of New Jersey for employment, you will find that Rutgers is extremely well-regarded. A bonus for you is that you will graduate with very little debt.

In 1989, I graduated with a little more than $6,000 in loans. Starting salaries were less than half of what they are today. I managed to pay off my loans in less than a year. A much better situation than graduating with several hundred thousand dollars in debt.

 

[RUnTeX]

Hi there. You may get to meet my son soon. Maybe you guys know each other. He graduated from Biotech High School, and will be going to Rutgers Honors College this fall. Money was not a consideration in his decision. We would have paid for him to go to any school he chose. We were surprised, however, when he was not admitted to many of his first choice schools. He chose Rutgers Honors College over UCLA. Like you, he had excellent grades in an IB high school and SAT scores in excess of 1500. He had strong extracurricular activities too.
Many of his classmates will be going to Rutgers Honors College too. We are not aware of a stigma associated with Rutgers, any he is quite excited to be going to Rutgers

Choosing Rutgers over the top-ranked (USNWR) public university in the country is saying something. Passing up sunny Southern California too. Congrats to your son on his final decision.

 

[Knight Shift]

Choosing Rutgers over the top-ranked (USNWR) public university in the country is saying something. Passing up sunny Southern California too. Congrats to your son on his final decision.

He is very excited about Rutgers and the Honors College. He is not excited about the football season though. Smarter than his parents. :Sly:

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Aud, when you went on your tour for Engineering, did they talk about the upcoming buildings for the Engineering Precinct? Would any of your friends picked Rutgers if we offered an Architecture major ?

 

[audriti]

Aud, when you went on your tour for Engineering, did they talk about the upcoming buildings for the Engineering Precinct? Would any of your friends picked Rutgers if we offered an Architecture major ?

They didn't talk about any such thing. I didn't know that existed. They did show off Richard weeks hall a lot and obviously it was gorgeous and many were impresssed. Then we were shown our major specific building (I went to the biomedical engineering building). The bme building wasn't particularly beautiful but what it didn't have in beauty it made up for in experimentation. Some students there scanned our fingers and showed us a graph of our heart beat and breathing rate which was pretty cool. We also got to talk to some professors and ask questions and the professors were very nice and our questions were thoroughly answered. I would say the engineering tour went very well but the bme building could use some renovations. I would say the tour definitely made me feel confident about going to rutgers as a biomedical engineering major.
Also, my friends are mostly stem people so probably not though I have some artistic ones that would consider it possibly as a double major if they were already considering a major at rutgers.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Aud, if you go to the first page of the Rutgers Engineering website, scroll to the bottom and there is a fair amount of information about the Engineering Precinct. I was just wondering if they provided the high school students and their parents any updates, but I guess not. Here is the website soe.rutgers.edu.

 

[audriti]

Aud, if you go to the first page of the Rutgers Engineering website, scroll to the bottom and there is a fair amount of information about the Engineering Precinct. I was just wondering if they provided the high school students and their parents any updates, but I guess not. Here is the website soe.rutgers.edu.

Oh ok. The plan sounds great. A shame they didn't tell anyone about it during the tour. If you have any more questions about engineering or the honors college or douglass I'll do my best to answer

 

[RUnTeX]

Also, my friends are mostly stem people so probably not though I have some artistic ones that would consider it possibly as a double major if they were already considering a major at rutgers.

Architecture is essentially a STEM degree/major, or at least it's technical enough to be considered so. While there is a creative/artistic side, it's still a highly technical design field to practice. NJIT and Princeton are the only two schools in NJ that offer architecture as a degree program, while Rutgers has the only landscape architecture program in the state. I'd argue that L.A. falls under the STEM umbrella too.

On a separate note, just curious if NJIT was on your radar at all for biomed eng'g? Or amongst your Biotech High classmates for any engineering/STEM fields? I realize it would likely be another "safety school" option given the academic credentials of you and your peers, and attending college in Newark is probably not a first choice for many, but I'm just wondering how much NJIT's profile has elevated over the years for strong students considering engineering? I believe they're quite generous with full merit scholarships for cream of the crop applicants.

 

[RUnTeX]

A shame they didn't tell anyone about it during the tour.

That really is unfortunate. The SOE dean's office and/or whomever else is involved in the tours really needs to step it up a notch in marketing this type of stuff. It appears they haven't made mentioning this piece of the NB Strategic Plan for the Busch campus as part of the talking points for the engineering tours. Heck, even if it doesn't happen in the near future, or ever at all, it really can't hurt to talk up that there's a vision for what might come down the line.

I'm surprised to see you mention the Biomed Eng'g building could use renovations as that's still one of the "newer" buildings for the engineering school overall, having opened sometime in the mid-2000s. Obviously that's more than a decade ago now, but still wouldn't have expected that it would need renovating this soon.

 

[Upstream]

Aud, when you went on your tour for Engineering, did they talk about the upcoming buildings for the Engineering Precinct? Would any of your friends picked Rutgers if we offered an Architecture major ?

Isn't the Engineering Precinct plan essentially a capital construction plan for new Engineering Buildings to be funded and built over the next 12 years. Other than the Weeks building, and maybe one additional building, would any of the new buildings be in place in time for incoming freshmen to take advantage of them?

Also, why the interest in architecture? Are you George Costanza?

 

[audriti]

Architecture is essentially a STEM degree/major, or at least it's technical enough to be considered so. While there is a creative/artistic side, it's still a highly technical design field to practice. NJIT and Princeton are the only two schools in NJ that offer architecture as a degree program, while Rutgers has the only landscape architecture program in the state. I'd argue that L.A. falls under the STEM umbrella too.

On a separate note, just curious if NJIT was on your radar at all for biomed eng'g? Or amongst your Biotech High classmates for any engineering/STEM fields? I realize it would likely be another "safety school" option given the academic credentials of you and your peers, and attending college in Newark is probably not a first choice for many, but I'm just wondering how much NJIT's profile has elevated over the years for strong students considering engineering? I believe they're quite generous with full merit scholarships for cream of the crop applicants.

I also got a full ride from NJIT but I liked the social life of Rutgers better. NJIT is mostly guys and I wanted to be around girls too. Also Rutgers has a better location as I am not a fan of smaller schools. My friends who got full rides from Rutgers basically all got full rides from NJIT as well but I don't know any of them who picked NJIT over rutgers. I know many people who got full rides from NJIT but not from rutgers but only one person who got a full ride from rutgers but not NJIT but she's not part of the engineering school at rutgers. I'm not sure how it was looked upon back then but I only know of one person who picked it for money purposes and I'm not sure if it was for engineering or not. Getting a full ride from NJIT is relatively simple too, all you need is above a 1450 or so and you get

That really is unfortunate. The SOE dean's office and/or whomever else is involved in the tours really needs to step it up a notch in marketing this type of stuff. It appears they haven't made mentioning this piece of the NB Strategic Plan for the Busch campus as part of the talking points for the engineering tours. Heck, even if it doesn't happen in the near future, or ever at all, it really can't hurt to talk up that there's a vision for what might come down the line.

I'm surprised to see you mention the Biomed Eng'g building could use renovations as that's still one of the "newer" buildings for the engineering school overall, having opened sometime in the mid-2000s. Obviously that's more than a decade ago now, but still wouldn't have expected that it would need renovating this soon.

Maybe it was used a lot or something it was very dusty and cramped looking. also the AC was very loud. I think if they made the AC quieter it would be alright

 

[HeavenUniv.]

If I was George Constanta and I had an interest in Architecture, wouldn’t I do the opposite and say I didn’t have an interest?

 

[m1ipabrams]

I think the "news" is the community colleges generally thought their relatively lower cost of attendance would insulate them some from the macro demographic impact.

Anybody who has glanced at the issue knew the expensive second teir privates would get hurt.

Not a big impact for RU but like everybody not Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, there will be a slightly smaller pool of really great students.

Community College enrollment is directly related to the job market. When the job market is strong(like it is now), community college enrollment nose dives. Simply stated, the people that would be going to community college are getting jobs instead. My wife is an adjunct at a community college here in PA and the enrollment there has been dropping the last few years after being very high during the prior job market down turn.