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Game 13 Maryland: Dreadful but not surprising

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Final score 77-63 not indictive of what a truly embarrassing beatdown today was for the program exposing it for where it stands right now. But we have all seen this coming right. I was shocked the spread on this game was only 3. The way this team was coming into the game didnt give me great confidence about today. Make no mistake about it, Pike had this team doing great things early in the season and certainly it was reasonable for the fans to feel optimistic about progression going forward. RU won on the road at Miami and then followed it up with competitive close losses to Michigan State and Wisconsin. Reasonable expectations from those games and the level of performance would be that RU would be overmatched most games but would find ways to win their share. But the last month has just been one mess of a basketball team. Spiral started at Fordham and continued right through being handled by SHU (late comeback aside) and just some funky showings against dregs like Columbia, Brown and Maine. Those reasonable expectations have dissipated. We tried to reason our way out of it but its quite apparent. The last 6 games have brutal for the team and its safe to say unfortunately what you are seeing is what you are going to get. Today the team put up about 10 minutes of solid play and then folded like a wet chalupa. Yes this team is truly as bad as it looked for much of the game today. Rutgers has been exposed and the challenge is where to go from here.

Montez Mathis like in the Maine game continues to be the best player with the most upside and potential going forward. He seems to be one of the only ones with enough confidence and IQ right now. 11 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists in 29 minutes getting the starting nod. Huge huge huge folks. I think he has solidified his spot as a starter and going forward Mathis must now become more of a focal point in the offense. It is clear that some other options like Kiss/Thiam have disappeared as those options and Harper is still behind. Mathis is the future, a bright spot we can rally around. Shows that Pike can recruit and he will have to recruit more Mathis. I dont expect perfection from him, he still misses some he should make at times but that is part of the learning process. More Mathis, less of some others going forward.

So where else do we go....well unfortunately reality is what it is. RU will get 2-4 league wins this years...and there is a decent possibility that Pikiell could be 9-21 in his third year. Pikiell will not be judged on wins and losses YET...given the moribundity of the program he inherited. However year 4 the gloves will be off. He will have to have this program reaching 500 or above, he will have to land a big 2020 recruiting class to replace all too many the complimentary players on this current team. Every coaching rebuild hits a crossroad point where the fans will know if the program is going in the right direction. In football, Ash's implosion this year was pretty much proof he is failure here and he basically lost the fanbase. Pikiell certainly gets more leeway considering the shitshow the hoops program has been in. Still he is getting near that point..its going to come in the offseason with recruiting and results wise next year. Key for him is can he keep positive vibes about the program going in the offseason off a 9-21 season..that will be tough. Can he somehow reverse this teams fortunes and get 5-6 league wins where we look at this Maryland game as an aberration. While I have faith in Pikiell his job becomes harder after a month like this team has had. It is clear that the coaching staff never anticipated that Thiam and Kiss would be so insignficant and that Baker would go into a funk. When 3 players you count on for points are struggling to do anything right well then how can you expect any wins.

So this year while not as big for wins/losses is going to have an impact on the leash Pikiell gets from fans going forward. No he isnt on any hot seats but this is a critical time for him and his players for development and in practice and for goals. We may not see it on the court but its something that internally the staff and program have to be working on and asking themselves. Just where are we headed and how do we keep it moving forward rather than have it crater backward. The goodwill is still there with Pike but it will not be there forever. You have to continue to move forward while that door is still ajar.
 
If Geo, Eugene, and Issa continue to play like this any wins will be very difficult to come by.

Good to see Harper get a couple of threes to go, hopefully his confidence will grow, even his foul shots looked better today.
 
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Geo was awful. I'd start McConnell next game along with Mathis, Harper, Omoruyi, and Carter.

Harper went 2-4 on three-pointers, maybe that'll get him going. Mathis did a good job of getting to the rim but needs to finish, only 3-9 inside... especially since he's still shaky at the free throw line. But it's good to see progress from him.

That's about it for the positives. Omoruyi committed bad fouls and couldn't make anything happen when Maryland threw two guys at him. Kiss hit one three-pointer but looked lost the rest of the game. I have no idea what's going on with Thiam. Doorson is a nonfactor.

It's easy to fall into the trap of saying guys who miss shots look disengaged... but this team looked disengaged today, besides Mathis. We didn't even get a shot up on our first three possessions, if I recall. We rallied while Maryland went cold but that was a harbinger of things to come.

Can we please stop throwing alley-oops unless it is 100% open?
 
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Geo was awful. I'd start McConnell next game along with Mathis, Harper, Omoruyi, and Carter.

Harper went 2-4 on three-pointers, maybe that'll get him going. Mathis did a good job of getting to the rim but needs to finish, only 3-9 inside... especially since he's still shaky at the free throw line. But it's good to see progress from him.

That's about it for the positives. Omoruyi committed bad fouls and couldn't make anything happen when Maryland threw two guys at him. Kiss hit one three-pointer but looked lost the rest of the game. I have no idea what's going on with Thiam. Doorson is a nonfactor.

It's easy to fall into the trap of saying guys who miss shots look disengaged... but this team looked disengaged today, besides Mathis. We didn't even get a shot up on our first three possessions, if I recall. We rallied while Maryland went cold but that was a harbinger of things to come.

Can we please stop throwing alley-oops unless it is 100% open?

Doubt Pikiell will sit Baker. He is the one that put him in this position.

Give credit to RU and the big men for Maryland going cold. I didn't see a disengaged team, but I did see a team that struggles to make baskets, and doesn't know where their best shots come from.

I agree with Kiss and Thiam. Mathis has to be a primary focus going forward, along with Ron Harper Jr, Carter, and Myles Johnson.
 
I would say 2020-21 is where you kinda know. Next year is potentially more playing time shuffling. We are seeing lost minutes in years 1 and 2 with pieces like Matt Bullock, Jake Dadika and Souf Mensah. Pieces that tried but clearly not near B1G caliber.

Next year, it's year 4 of Thiam and Eugene. Truthfully, Thiam is not exposed as not able to compete night in and night out at a B1G level. So you are also seeing teams taking away Kiss as a stationary shooter....he's not a driver, despite decent footwork, he should draw fouls off the dribble....an occasional pump fake and you draw contact, get to the FT line...

Add to that, Shaq Doorson coming off the roster and you are adding 2 to 3 new pieces in Young, Mulcahy and TBD. Whomever the 3rd piece is, needs to be another dribble, shoot, pass, drive guy up front.

The signs of life on Harper, Mathis, Caleb and even Geo with an off game is enough to build around.....but asking a bunch of sophomores next year to elevate this roster, while still carrying Thiam and possibly Kiss, isn't ideal.

I think if you see the freshman continue to compete like today, next year is more development as well. If Thiam and Kiss were the caliber of players we recruited in 2018 and they were juniors, then demanding a corner to be turned would be 100% valid.

I just don't see any upside physically or overall with 30% of your current 10 player rotation, this limited or not able to generate their own offense. If the 2019 class had a Massoud or Hyatt or that caliber of player mixed with Young and Mulcahy and Thiam Kiss were plus athletes able to get baskets on occasion off the bounce or knock down more shots, then 100%, next year is turning the corner.

Listening to Pike post game with Jerry Recco etc, he said it again, "we're going to need Ron Harper, McConnell, Myles and Mathis to continue to progress". It's really key to somehow find another legit piece for 2019, without delving into that realm of what it typically takes to get those 1 or 2 pieces to push RU over the top.

If anything is to be really looked at, it's whether the staff can rebuild at this elite level, and lose out to the Wake Forest, LSU and Georgia Tech types of programs for players....never mind the high 4 or 5 star kids landing all over the place in the ACC, SEC or other spots in the B1G..
 
Omoruyi is disappointing me because game after game continues to make bad fouls in frustration....he collects stupid fouls at the beginning of games and hurt the team by having to sit alot in the first half, its not the first time he did this...then he proceeds to do the same thing picking up another bad foul in the beginning of the second half. I am not picking at him. It having expectations. As a junior he has to be more of leader and play under control. Just 2 rebounds and only 18 minutes in a big home game is nothing but disappointing to me. Ditto for Baker 1-10 shooting and just making a series of wrong decisions., Both of these guys did not calm the team down when Maryland went on that ridiculous 28-4 type run.

Baker is struggling right now but I am not worried about this kid. He will rebound. I definitely do not want MacConnell starting. Baker is our starter period. Baker is a putrid shooting funk....16-67 over the last 5 games and 10-41 from 3, his shot selection is atrocious and he is taking WAAAAAAAAAAAY to many 3s and did not even get to the line the last 2 games.

I think a team only meeting is due.
 
Final score 77-63 not indictive of what a truly embarrassing beatdown today was for the program exposing it for where it stands right now. But we have all seen this coming right. I was shocked the spread on this game was only 3. The way this team was coming into the game didnt give me great confidence about today. Make no mistake about it, Pike had this team doing great things early in the season and certainly it was reasonable for the fans to feel optimistic about progression going forward. RU won on the road at Miami and then followed it up with competitive close losses to Michigan State and Wisconsin. Reasonable expectations from those games and the level of performance would be that RU would be overmatched most games but would find ways to win their share. But the last month has just been one mess of a basketball team. Spiral started at Fordham and continued right through being handled by SHU (late comeback aside) and just some funky showings against dregs like Columbia, Brown and Maine. Those reasonable expectations have dissipated. We tried to reason our way out of it but its quite apparent. The last 6 games have brutal for the team and its safe to say unfortunately what you are seeing is what you are going to get. Today the team put up about 10 minutes of solid play and then folded like a wet chalupa. Yes this team is truly as bad as it looked for much of the game today. Rutgers has been exposed and the challenge is where to go from here.

Montez Mathis like in the Maine game continues to be the best player with the most upside and potential going forward. He seems to be one of the only ones with enough confidence and IQ right now. 11 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists in 29 minutes getting the starting nod. Huge huge huge folks. I think he has solidified his spot as a starter and going forward Mathis must now become more of a focal point in the offense. It is clear that some other options like Kiss/Thiam have disappeared as those options and Harper is still behind. Mathis is the future, a bright spot we can rally around. Shows that Pike can recruit and he will have to recruit more Mathis. I dont expect perfection from him, he still misses some he should make at times but that is part of the learning process. More Mathis, less of some others going forward.

So where else do we go....well unfortunately reality is what it is. RU will get 2-4 league wins this years...and there is a decent possibility that Pikiell could be 9-21 in his third year. Pikiell will not be judged on wins and losses YET...given the moribundity of the program he inherited. However year 4 the gloves will be off. He will have to have this program reaching 500 or above, he will have to land a big 2020 recruiting class to replace all too many the complimentary players on this current team. Every coaching rebuild hits a crossroad point where the fans will know if the program is going in the right direction. In football, Ash's implosion this year was pretty much proof he is failure here and he basically lost the fanbase. Pikiell certainly gets more leeway considering the shitshow the hoops program has been in. Still he is getting near that point..its going to come in the offseason with recruiting and results wise next year. Key for him is can he keep positive vibes about the program going in the offseason off a 9-21 season..that will be tough. Can he somehow reverse this teams fortunes and get 5-6 league wins where we look at this Maryland game as an aberration. While I have faith in Pikiell his job becomes harder after a month like this team has had. It is clear that the coaching staff never anticipated that Thiam and Kiss would be so insignficant and that Baker would go into a funk. When 3 players you count on for points are struggling to do anything right well then how can you expect any wins.

So this year while not as big for wins/losses is going to have an impact on the leash Pikiell gets from fans going forward. No he isnt on any hot seats but this is a critical time for him and his players for development and in practice and for goals. We may not see it on the court but its something that internally the staff and program have to be working on and asking themselves. Just where are we headed and how do we keep it moving forward rather than have it crater backward. The goodwill is still there with Pike but it will not be there forever. You have to continue to move forward while that door is still ajar.
BAC- As usual excellent recap of game and future outlook.My continued concern is that there still is no sense of urgency to change the status quo.Without even one go to shooter right now its hard to discern getting even 2-3 league wins.To just assume the team will achieve a .500 record next year without bringing in shooters is wishful thinking and setting fans up for deep disappointment.Where is a Quincy Douby when he is desperately needed at Rutgers?The B1G competition isn't sitting still waiting for Rutgers to catch up in talent.
 
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I would say 2020-21 is where you kinda know. Next year is potentially more playing time shuffling. We are seeing lost minutes in years 1 and 2 with pieces like Matt Bullock, Jake Dadika and Souf Mensah. Pieces that tried but clearly not near B1G caliber.

Next year, it's year 4 of Thiam and Eugene. Truthfully, Thiam is not exposed as not able to compete night in and night out at a B1G level. So you are also seeing teams taking away Kiss as a stationary shooter....he's not a driver, despite decent footwork, he should draw fouls off the dribble....an occasional pump fake and you draw contact, get to the FT line...

Add to that, Shaq Doorson coming off the roster and you are adding 2 to 3 new pieces in Young, Mulcahy and TBD. Whomever the 3rd piece is, needs to be another dribble, shoot, pass, drive guy up front.

The signs of life on Harper, Mathis, Caleb and even Geo with an off game is enough to build around.....but asking a bunch of sophomores next year to elevate this roster, while still carrying Thiam and possibly Kiss, isn't ideal.

I think if you see the freshman continue to compete like today, next year is more development as well. If Thiam and Kiss were the caliber of players we recruited in 2018 and they were juniors, then demanding a corner to be turned would be 100% valid.

I just don't see any upside physically or overall with 30% of your current 10 player rotation, this limited or not able to generate their own offense. If the 2019 class had a Massoud or Hyatt or that caliber of player mixed with Young and Mulcahy and Thiam Kiss were plus athletes able to get baskets on occasion off the bounce or knock down more shots, then 100%, next year is turning the corner.

Listening to Pike post game with Jerry Recco etc, he said it again, "we're going to need Ron Harper, McConnell, Myles and Mathis to continue to progress". It's really key to somehow find another legit piece for 2019, without delving into that realm of what it typically takes to get those 1 or 2 pieces to push RU over the top.

If anything is to be really looked at, it's whether the staff can rebuild at this elite level, and lose out to the Wake Forest, LSU and Georgia Tech types of programs for players....never mind the high 4 or 5 star kids landing all over the place in the ACC, SEC or other spots in the B1G..


Pikiell's recruiting misses are factoring in this season and will next season. Cant miss on Souf and Bullock and then have Issa contribute nothing and have Kiss not be up to snuff. It just makes it harder for him because he needs to thread the needle on recruiting. As usual we are at another crossroads with a coaching when it comes to recruit...we went through this with Wenzel, Bannon, Waters, Hill, Jordan, Rice. We see the level of recruit improved...but not enough to move the needle, wash rinse repeat.
 
Final score 77-63 not indictive of what a truly embarrassing beatdown today was for the program exposing it for where it stands right now. But we have all seen this coming right. I was shocked the spread on this game was only 3. The way this team was coming into the game didnt give me great confidence about today. Make no mistake about it, Pike had this team doing great things early in the season and certainly it was reasonable for the fans to feel optimistic about progression going forward. RU won on the road at Miami and then followed it up with competitive close losses to Michigan State and Wisconsin. Reasonable expectations from those games and the level of performance would be that RU would be overmatched most games but would find ways to win their share. But the last month has just been one mess of a basketball team. Spiral started at Fordham and continued right through being handled by SHU (late comeback aside) and just some funky showings against dregs like Columbia, Brown and Maine. Those reasonable expectations have dissipated. We tried to reason our way out of it but its quite apparent. The last 6 games have brutal for the team and its safe to say unfortunately what you are seeing is what you are going to get. Today the team put up about 10 minutes of solid play and then folded like a wet chalupa. Yes this team is truly as bad as it looked for much of the game today. Rutgers has been exposed and the challenge is where to go from here.

Montez Mathis like in the Maine game continues to be the best player with the most upside and potential going forward. He seems to be one of the only ones with enough confidence and IQ right now. 11 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists in 29 minutes getting the starting nod. Huge huge huge folks. I think he has solidified his spot as a starter and going forward Mathis must now become more of a focal point in the offense. It is clear that some other options like Kiss/Thiam have disappeared as those options and Harper is still behind. Mathis is the future, a bright spot we can rally around. Shows that Pike can recruit and he will have to recruit more Mathis. I dont expect perfection from him, he still misses some he should make at times but that is part of the learning process. More Mathis, less of some others going forward.

So where else do we go....well unfortunately reality is what it is. RU will get 2-4 league wins this years...and there is a decent possibility that Pikiell could be 9-21 in his third year. Pikiell will not be judged on wins and losses YET...given the moribundity of the program he inherited. However year 4 the gloves will be off. He will have to have this program reaching 500 or above, he will have to land a big 2020 recruiting class to replace all too many the complimentary players on this current team. Every coaching rebuild hits a crossroad point where the fans will know if the program is going in the right direction. In football, Ash's implosion this year was pretty much proof he is failure here and he basically lost the fanbase. Pikiell certainly gets more leeway considering the shitshow the hoops program has been in. Still he is getting near that point..its going to come in the offseason with recruiting and results wise next year. Key for him is can he keep positive vibes about the program going in the offseason off a 9-21 season..that will be tough. Can he somehow reverse this teams fortunes and get 5-6 league wins where we look at this Maryland game as an aberration. While I have faith in Pikiell his job becomes harder after a month like this team has had. It is clear that the coaching staff never anticipated that Thiam and Kiss would be so insignficant and that Baker would go into a funk. When 3 players you count on for points are struggling to do anything right well then how can you expect any wins.

So this year while not as big for wins/losses is going to have an impact on the leash Pikiell gets from fans going forward. No he isnt on any hot seats but this is a critical time for him and his players for development and in practice and for goals. We may not see it on the court but its something that internally the staff and program have to be working on and asking themselves. Just where are we headed and how do we keep it moving forward rather than have it crater backward. The goodwill is still there with Pike but it will not be there forever. You have to continue to move forward while that door is still ajar.

I agree with most of this but anyone on this board can coach this team to three successive last place finishes in the B1G. A 9-21 in his third season season and I certainly will have begin to have my doubts. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still be on board, but originally I thought this team could sniff an NIT bid next season. Now I’m thinking .500 is the goal.
The freshman have promise but it’s the development of the other pieces that has me concerned. The recruiting has picked up...but not in relation to other B1G teams. I’m hopeful that another scholarship opens up without hurting us much and Pikiell somehow snags two highly regarded recruits to join Mulcahy next season.
 
Doubt Pikiell will sit Baker. He is the one that put him in this position.

Give credit to RU and the big men for Maryland going cold. I didn't see a disengaged team, but I did see a team that struggles to make baskets, and doesn't know where their best shots come from.

I agree with Kiss and Thiam. Mathis has to be a primary focus going forward, along with Ron Harper Jr, Carter, and Myles Johnson.

I think our most 6 productive players today were:

Mathis
Harper
Myles
Caleb
Carter
Eugene

add Geo.

Let’s give the first five more time with Eugene and Geo. That should be the 7 that get 23+ minutes per game the rest of this year. Let’s develop them, increase their confidence and then Pikes and this staff need to recruit (and close) their asses off for 2019 and 2020.
 
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I agree with most of this but anyone on this board can coach this team to three successive last place finishes in the B1G. A 9-21 in his third season season and I certainly will have begin to have my doubts. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still be on board, but originally I thought this team could sniff an NIT bid next season. Now I’m thinking .500 is the goal.
The freshman have promise but it’s the development of the other pieces that has me concerned. The recruiting has picked up...but not in relation to other B1G teams. I’m hopeful that another scholarship opens up without hurting us much and Pikiell somehow snags two highly regarded recruits to join Mulcahy next season.


9-21 and definitely people will be ready to pounce on him next year.

with guys like Young...we have heard it all before too..remember Nigel Johnson was the 2nd coming...so we need to be careful that next year is better...it could be better but is it better only that it gets us back to 14-17...not sure that is enough. What is obvious is that recruiting needs to pick up and do or die time there is coming
 
Pray for the 2020 recruiting class. It’s the only hope.
 
It's amazing what some decent outside shooting would do for the team's confidence and overall play. The first ten minutes Rutgers looked very solid until fouls and poor shooting did them in. And it hurts not having a true point guard. I feel bad for geo since he's been thrown into a difficult spot by being asked to play out of his best position. If Rutgers can improve their shooting it will make them look like an entirely different team. If not , they will continue to struggle....
 
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Pray for the 2020 recruiting class. It’s the only hope.
What's interesting is for the past 4-5 years our recruiting classes haven't been 14th in the conference a single time and yet we've finished last every one of those years.
 
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This team has to be able to shoot. Period. End of story! Nothing more to see and talk about.

Our recruiting strategy has to be under the radars. Shooting is an equalizer. We aren’t recruiting Jalen Smith.

Kiss, Baker, Issa, Geo and Caleb who can’t knock down shots are bad players.
 
but the level.of play the last 4 games made this game not surprising really......the worst thing for expectations was the competitive game vs Michigan State...its clearly the anomaly
 
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A few comments from my end:

- Pike needs to stop being Mr. Nice Guy to the Refs and get some T's to wake the team up and to send a message throughout the league that I'm sick of my team getting abused by the refs. Mathis and Eugene were basically out of the game at the 5 minute mark with 2 fouls. This played a big role in the pathetic 1st half we had.

- Eugene also needs to take his mean pills again. He's lost the chip on his shoulder that made him an irritable force in the middle. And he needs to minimize the flops. He's been victimized too many times and causing us foul issues as a result.

- Montez was a beast today and he's exhibited this aspect game to game. He takes shit from no one (challenged Fernando) and ain't afraid to take the ball to the rac. He's our only guy playing with fire and passion.

- Kiss and Thiam: Don't know what to make anymore of these guys. Much more was expected from both and i hope maybe Kiss can watch Mathis and emulate his game. Kiss did not play with any fire or swagger today.

- Geo: Kid's a gamer. Just had a lousy game. It's tough on Baker who should be a #2 or #3 option being the guy who defenses are keying on. Hopefully next year with Mulcahy; Young and the frosh getting better, it'lt take pressure off Geo.

- Turning point of the game was the foul on Mathis when he scored to put us up 15-7 only to see a foul called and the points were negated. From that point on, Mathis and Eugene were both on the bench and we scored like 6 points for the balance of the half....15 minutes. How is that possible?...lol

And we need some meanness in the paint. We're too nice of a team finesse wise and not intimidating wise.

Maryland gave us fits because of their size and length (Fernando; Smith) and I think we match up better with Ohio State so I expect a closer game.
 
A few comments from my end:

Maryland gave us fits because of their size and length (Fernando; Smith) and I think we match up better with Ohio State so I expect a closer game.
How did we match up with Fordham and Columbia? Pike needs to fix it quickly. Whatever he is trying to run on O is not working and the D has been terrible.
 
bac said:"The goodwill is still there with Pike but it will not be there forever. You have to continue to move forward while that door is still ajar."

I feel without a competent PG Pike will have trouble moving forward and lose the goodwill of the RU fanbase he has now.
Next year will be a true test for him, while this season is proving how bad RU needs a PG and not have players put in that position that don't fit a PG's skill set.
 
How did we match up with Fordham and Columbia? Pike needs to fix it quickly. Whatever he is trying to run on O is not working and the D has been terrible.

Is it possible... now just hear me out... that the four new players to the program and other 2 who were redshirted are still learning the systems and not playing it to their highest level... meanwhile your best player is playing out of position out of necessity and not quite used to being number one on the opponent's defense yet? It it possible that learning systems can take upwards of a year sometimes before they have it together? So--fix it quickly--might not be an option because things like this take time.
 
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This conversation of disappointing results has been going on for decades under different head coaches.It comes down to the inability to recruit shooters instead of slasher type players who were highly successful in high school .In college players need high level skill set to get to the basket and finish against opponents with taller players.They also must be able to shoot off the dribble as defenders block their path to the basket.Above all else recruits must be able to make at a minimum wide open jump shots.

In this game Maryland clearly had more talented players at every position creating and making shots .The Maryland head coach stated after the game that he has a very talented young team .Such comments are made on a regular basis from the head coaches at the elite schools like Duke,Kansas,Kentucky etc.but rarely from head coaches at schools that aren't ranked.Rutgers fans keep wishing for the day when the head coach can back up his words with performance on the court.
 
Pray for the 2020 recruiting class. It’s the only hope.
The solutions to the program's problems are always in high school, and that's the problem. Sprinkling fairy dust on players who've never played a college game isn't the answer. Better coaching and development of the players that are on the roster now is the only way things improve. This team struggles with fundamentals. That's all about coaching.
 
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This conversation of disappointing results has been going on for decades under different head coaches.It comes down to the inability to recruit shooters instead of slasher type players who were highly successful in high school .In college players need high level skill set to get to the basket and finish against opponents with taller players.They also must be able to shoot off the dribble as defenders block their path to the basket.Above all else recruits must be able to make at a minimum wide open jump shots.

In this game Maryland clearly had more talented players at every position creating and making shots .The Maryland head coach stated after the game that he has a very talented young team .Such comments are made on a regular basis from the head coaches at the elite schools like Duke,Kansas,Kentucky etc.but rarely from head coaches at schools that aren't ranked.Rutgers fans keep wishing for the day when the head coach can back up his words with performance on the court.
Cannot like this enough.
 
BTW the other takeaway is that we sold out a game in January against an unranked opponent. That's kind of incredible if you think about it.

There is a BIG appetite for success here but there aren't going to be many more sellouts without the wins to justify them.
 
Maryland has 3 guys who are better than anyone on our team, plus they have another guy that shoots 43% from three.

So while I thought we would be 4 or 5 point underdogs coming in, with us being at home, I did not anticipate such putrid shooting on our part. Also, once two of our best defenders and scorers were on the bench with foul trouble, and with Baker unable to make a shot, the blowout was underway.

I still believe we will upset some teams, and I’ll say we find a way to win 6 league games before the B1G tournament.

One thing I’ve mentioned several times that I believe is still true, is that this team plays better with less rest between games. Once again we went a week between games while Maryland played only three days earlier. This gives me hope that we will be better against OSU.
 
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I agree with that----sometimes teams don't need a ton of practice.

They've been practicing for 6 months.

Best recovery medicine is to just get out on the floor and play.

OSU exerted a ton of emotion and energy yesterday in the MIch State game.

CJ Jackson sat the last 8 minutes with an injury and their offense disappeared. Maybe he's out for the next game.
 
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Is it possible... now just hear me out... that the four new players to the program and other 2 who were redshirted are still learning the systems and not playing it to their highest level... meanwhile your best player is playing out of position out of necessity and not quite used to being number one on the opponent's defense yet? It it possible that learning systems can take upwards of a year sometimes before they have it together? So--fix it quickly--might not be an option because things like this take time.
This is why I put the blame on Pike.
 
The solutions to the program's problems are always in high school, and that's the problem. Sprinkling fairy dust on players who've never played a college game isn't the answer. Better coaching and development of the players that are on the roster now is the only way things improve. This team struggles with fundamentals. That's all about coaching.

Can’t make pizza without dough
 
A few comments from my end:

- Pike needs to stop being Mr. Nice Guy to the Refs and get some T's to wake the team up and to send a message throughout the league that I'm sick of my team getting abused by the refs. Mathis and Eugene were basically out of the game at the 5 minute mark with 2 fouls. This played a big role in the pathetic 1st half we had.

- Eugene also needs to take his mean pills again. He's lost the chip on his shoulder that made him an irritable force in the middle. And he needs to minimize the flops. He's been victimized too many times and causing us foul issues as a result.

- Montez was a beast today and he's exhibited this aspect game to game. He takes shit from no one (challenged Fernando) and ain't afraid to take the ball to the rac. He's our only guy playing with fire and passion.

- Kiss and Thiam: Don't know what to make anymore of these guys. Much more was expected from both and i hope maybe Kiss can watch Mathis and emulate his game. Kiss did not play with any fire or swagger today.

- Geo: Kid's a gamer. Just had a lousy game. It's tough on Baker who should be a #2 or #3 option being the guy who defenses are keying on. Hopefully next year with Mulcahy; Young and the frosh getting better, it'lt take pressure off Geo.

- Turning point of the game was the foul on Mathis when he scored to put us up 15-7 only to see a foul called and the points were negated. From that point on, Mathis and Eugene were both on the bench and we scored like 6 points for the balance of the half....15 minutes. How is that possible?...lol

And we need some meanness in the paint. We're too nice of a team finesse wise and not intimidating wise.

Maryland gave us fits because of their size and length (Fernando; Smith) and I think we match up better with Ohio State so I expect a closer game.
It has nothing to do with fire, passion, being mean, or any of that. We can’t shoot. Period.
 
Free throw disparity was ridiculous and made a difference when game was on the line.
 
Because a team has to develop? Man every coach that has ever built a team has had to deal with this situation at some point so they are all terrible.
This is Pike’s 3rd year. Finished last 2 years in a row. Your reasoning would mean the last 2 yrs are the high watermark.
 
This is Pike’s 3rd year. Finished last 2 years in a row. Your reasoning would mean the last 2 yrs are the high watermark.

Builds are not linear, so I wouldn't be surprised if--after this season is over--last season is still the high watermark. That said, I think next season will be big. I also think this team might really gel in February so let's see... I'm an optimist, I really like Pikiell and he's dealing with a ton of new faces. It takes time to learn.
 
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Builds are not linear, so I wouldn't be surprised if--after this season is over--last season is still the high watermark. That said, I think next season will be big. I also think this team might really gel in February so let's see... I'm an optimist, I really like Pikiell and he's dealing with a ton of new faces. It takes time to learn.

In fact, I think that last year's team got some really bad breaks with Eugene and especially Mike Williams' injury. They could have found a few more wins with Mike's leadership.
 
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