Game 13 Maryland: Dreadful but not surprising

[jtung230]

Builds are not linear, so I wouldn't be surprised if--after this season is over--last season is still the high watermark. That said, I think next season will be big. I also think this team might really gel in February so let's see... I'm an optimist, I really like Pikiell and he's dealing with a ton of new faces. It takes time to learn.

I might agree with you except I don’t like what I’m seeing coming out of time outs.

 

[jtung230]

In fact, I think that last year's team got some really bad breaks with Eugene and especially Mike Williams' injury. They could have found a few more wins with Mike's leadership.

No one cared when EJ had all the injuries.

 

[dpwhite]

No one cared when EJ had all the injuries.

And no one really cared last year...but yeah i guess EJ’s teams would have lost by 15 instead of 35 if healthy.

 

[jtung230]

And no one really cared last year...but yeah i guess EJ’s teams would have lost by 15 instead of 35 if healthy.

How much did we lose by against MD?

 

[bac2therac]

Jtung's post are over the top about Pikiell....criticism may be warranted but he isnt terrible and this same poster was sniffing Jordan's jock through obvious failure

 

[dpwhite]

How much did we lose by against MD?

I can't believe we're having an Eddie vs. Pikiell conversation, but I suppose you get this point in the sort of column.

 

[jtung230]

Jtung's post are over the top about Pikiell....criticism may be warranted but he isnt terrible and this same poster was sniffing Jordan's jock through obvious failure

I wasn’t a EJ fan but I was a fan of giving him his 4th season. You just mad because what I said to you in the RU women beat #4 UMD thread. When will it be obvious failure for Pike? I said it early on that this season will be a success if we don’t finish last 3 years in a row. Very low bar.

 

[bac2therac]

I have no idea what you said to me in a womens hoops thread, I read enough of your commentary during the Jordan era to see what you are.

 

[RU MAN]

I would say 2020-21 is where you kinda know. Next year is potentially more playing time shuffling. We are seeing lost minutes in years 1 and 2 with pieces like Matt Bullock, Jake Dadika and Souf Mensah. Pieces that tried but clearly not near B1G caliber.

Next year, it's year 4 of Thiam and Eugene. Truthfully, Thiam is not exposed as not able to compete night in and night out at a B1G level. So you are also seeing teams taking away Kiss as a stationary shooter....he's not a driver, despite decent footwork, he should draw fouls off the dribble....an occasional pump fake and you draw contact, get to the FT line...

Add to that, Shaq Doorson coming off the roster and you are adding 2 to 3 new pieces in Young, Mulcahy and TBD. Whomever the 3rd piece is, needs to be another dribble, shoot, pass, drive guy up front.

The signs of life on Harper, Mathis, Caleb and even Geo with an off game is enough to build around.....but asking a bunch of sophomores next year to elevate this roster, while still carrying Thiam and possibly Kiss, isn't ideal.

I think if you see the freshman continue to compete like today, next year is more development as well. If Thiam and Kiss were the caliber of players we recruited in 2018 and they were juniors, then demanding a corner to be turned would be 100% valid.

I just don't see any upside physically or overall with 30% of your current 10 player rotation, this limited or not able to generate their own offense. If the 2019 class had a Massoud or Hyatt or that caliber of player mixed with Young and Mulcahy and Thiam Kiss were plus athletes able to get baskets on occasion off the bounce or knock down more shots, then 100%, next year is turning the corner.

Listening to Pike post game with Jerry Recco etc, he said it again, "we're going to need Ron Harper, McConnell, Myles and Mathis to continue to progress". It's really key to somehow find another legit piece for 2019, without delving into that realm of what it typically takes to get those 1 or 2 pieces to push RU over the top.

If anything is to be really looked at, it's whether the staff can rebuild at this elite level, and lose out to the Wake Forest, LSU and Georgia Tech types of programs for players....never mind the high 4 or 5 star kids landing all over the place in the ACC, SEC or other spots in the B1G..

Good post. I mentioned this in another thread. I think we can turn the corner if, and that's a big IF Pikiell can land a JUCO type player in the interim like a Jerome Coleman. If he can, I think this program in the short term can turn the corner while Pike and staff are out there getting better long term pieces. As far as I'm concerned, Kiss and Thiam are two of the biggest disappointments this year, and I really believe if McConnell can take Geo's place as point guard the remaining games of this season and put Geo at his natural 2 guard position, I think we will see Geo grow out of his funk.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Why would we want a JUCO?
I’d rather say no to transfers
I really want to say no to grad transfers

 

[RU MAN]

Why would we want a JUCO?
I’d rather say no to transfers
I really want to say no to grad transfers

We should only go to that if we can't get a quality recruit. You know better than that.

 

[BillyC80]

I wouldn’t mind a grad transfer to fill a gap for one year, if necessary. I like that they get to play right away, like CJ did for us, without sitting a year first.

Anything that gives us a chance at a great season to reignite us long suffering fans who’ve been patiently waiting through one rebuild after another.

 

[TDIrish27]

I wouldn’t mind a grad transfer to fill a gap for one year, if necessary. I like that they get to play right away, like CJ did for us, without sitting a year first.

Anything that gives us a chance at a great season to reignite us long suffering fans who’ve been patiently waiting through one rebuild after another.

If I was a coach at a place that perennially struggles I'd be bringing 1 grad transfer every year.

It's a 1 year deal------if he can't play you only have to look at your mistake for a year vs a JC kid who you have to look at for 2 and grad transfers are guys with degrees and are a much lower academic risk.

You get an older guy who has been through the rigors and the ups and downs and can be a great influence on younger players.

 

[bac2therac]

A grad transfer may be a needed bridge....ONLY if dead weight players are pushed off as well and new schollies offered...if not then it's just a smoke and mirrors routine to hide recruiting misses

 

[kcg88]

Grad transfers, at least the ones who would come to Rutgers, are almost always depth guys and not major difference makers.

We were in the mix for Ehab Amin... He's getting steals for Oregon but also shooting 28% on threes. Chartouney on Marquette is just a guy... 14 minutes 0 points in their last game against Xavier.

And those two were among the most sought-after guys. If we're bringing in young pieces worth developing then the minutes should go to them over a grad transfer. Otherwise like bac said it's a band-aid covering up a bigger problem.