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GAME 21 NORTHWESTERN: Eat Hardy Rutgers

Have not watched them alot but this year but what struck me was their lack of toughness. I thought Berry was good..what happened to him. No Buie on this team they reminded me alot of last years RU team who cant finish around the rim
Thought the same about Berry and how he regressed. I thought he would be one of their top guys this year but he has gone backwards. Nicholson never really advanced much either, regressed also if anything.
 
I was thinking that Bailey game too and some of the St. John’s games but thought they were tourney games or Garden games. That Holiday Festival games stands out again but not really a road game.
Same with Corey Sanders v Indiana at the Garden.

Riggins getting some astronomical number at PSU?

I still remember Jacob’s dunk over big Purdue center and his interception at Minny.
Harms was so pissed after that dunk. He was stomping around the official like he was fouled somehow. He couldn't believe someone Jacob's size posterized him.
 
Didn't Douby have a ridiculous game up at the Carrier Dome his final year? James had a huge game vs. OSU in the Holiday Festival final at MSG, but that was a neutral court and still pretty local.

He had 41 points with 5 assists and 5 rebounds that game. An incredible game but it did go to overtime and he did shoot 15-32. I'd rank them like this:
  1. Bailey @ Northwestern (2025) - 37 Points (13-20, 5-8, 6-6), 6 REB, 0 AST, 1 TO, 0 STL, 3 BLK
    • Incredible shooting efficiency and 3 blocks. 65% from the floor, 63% from Three, and 100% from the FT line. 0 Assists isn't ideal but when you shoot like that and the other team doesn't double, you don't give the ball up.
  2. Douby @ Syracuse (2006) - 41 Points (15-32, 9-17, 2-2), 5 REB, 5 AST, 1 TO, 1 STL, 0 BLK
    • Incredible all around game but 47% shooting, I know still great, and just 1 STL/BLK drops it just below Bailey.
  3. Bailey @ Indiana (2025) - 39 Points (16-29, 4-8, 3-8), 8 REB, 0 AST, 0 TO, 1 STL, 4 BLK
    • Only thing holding this back from #1 is going 3-8 at the FT line and no assists.
  4. Douby @ St. John's (2006) - 36 Points (12-20, 6-9, 6-7), 3 REB, 4 AST, 2 TO, 3 STL, 0 BLK
    • Fantastic shooting day but 2 TOs drops it down to 4th.
 
He had 41 points with 5 assists and 5 rebounds that game. An incredible game but it did go to overtime and he did shoot 15-32. I'd rank them like this:
  1. Bailey @ Northwestern (2025) - 37 Points (13-20, 5-8, 6-6), 6 REB, 0 AST, 1 TO, 0 STL, 3 BLK
    • Incredible shooting efficiency and 3 blocks. 65% from the floor, 63% from Three, and 100% from the FT line. 0 Assists isn't ideal but when you shoot like that and the other team doesn't double, you don't give the ball up.
  2. Douby @ Syracuse (2006) - 41 Points (15-32, 9-17, 2-2), 5 REB, 5 AST, 1 TO, 1 STL, 0 BLK
    • Incredible all around game but 47% shooting, I know still great, and just 1 STL/BLK drops it just below Bailey.
  3. Bailey @ Indiana (2025) - 39 Points (16-29, 4-8, 3-8), 8 REB, 0 AST, 0 TO, 1 STL, 4 BLK
    • Only thing holding this back from #1 is going 3-8 at the FT line and no assists.
  4. Douby @ St. John's (2006) - 36 Points (12-20, 6-9, 6-7), 3 REB, 4 AST, 2 TO, 3 STL, 0 BLK
    • Fantastic shooting day but 2 TOs drops it down to 4th.
Nice breakdown and ranking system! One stat that love for Ace: 6-6 on FTs.
 
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I can only post what typically happens and what fans see or don't see or notice.

There were other discussions about how good (or not so good) that RU team actually was the laat 2 to 3 seasons. All I know is the rosters were either not deep enough or athletic enough to play 33 to 35 high level games. When Mag got injured, we were already a roster on fumes and running low on speed and athletic ability. My hope was to pull the plug on Mulcahy, because he and the entire starting lineup, lived in the 34 to 36 minutes a game range. For 20 games, sure that works....when you get into late January and February and you're trying to beat the metrics and efficiency models by shortening the rotations, good luck.

Here are the minutes per game by the 2 of the Top 5 leading scoring players in the B1G in Martinelli and Barnheizer.

Barnheizer
38, 39, 38, 45, 37, 38, 39, 36, 34, 37, 43,42, 38, 26, 37

Martinelli

35, 37, 39, 42, 38, 36, 34, 39, 35, 38, 45, 45, 36, 36, 40.

Obviously any game over 40 minutes means you're in an even higher pressure game in OT, against another talented team.

Why is this in the game recap vs Northwestern.....?? Because they look like RU in the last 2 to 3 years.....capable of beating anyone, but that's only for the 1st 15 to 20 games.

NW has lost 6 of 8 and if you play your 2 best players, almost 38 to 40 minutes a night, eventually the shooting falls off, the extra rebounds get taken away, the turnovers or rushed shots don't fall.

For RU and this current season, this (to me) is the deepest roster Pike has put into place since 2020-21. I'm not going to predict results, because it's 5 freshman, (one who's clearly been injured in Harper)....and 2 of the freshman have either just started playing 3 weeks ago (Grant) or 3 days ago (Dortch).

Add in JMike, Acuff, Sommerville and for the most part, RU won the game with more depth, skill and talent and fresher legs last night. Ace is obviously elite, but Grant with a tip in and Dortch with some minutes, offering fresh legs.....he had a monster almost dunk, because he's moving faster than the Northwestern players last night.

RU has one path to succeed the rest of the season.....play the freshman and players who want to fly around, jump, rebound and get deflections and hit offensive and defensive glass.....AND

Figure out a way to convince JWill and Derkack that having the basketball in your hands is a right, not a privilege.

If JWill can stop with these crazy drives and drives with these wild risky passes....and if Derkack can contain himself and mature by dominating the play, by playing under control and not the wild/crazy half court bounce pass he tried at MSG, RU can beat ANYBODY left on the schedule home or away.....(yes, at Purdue, at Michigan, at Oregon, at Maryland).

We have the legs this year, i need this staff to demand taking care of the ball, get Harper closer to 100% and push the freshman energy and JMike, Acuff out there to take care of the ball....

February basketball into March is about who has depth, talent and legs, mixed with upside and improving players. We have seen RU seasons wilt under the lack of depth, lack of athletes and skills, the last 2 to 3 years, where it was on gas fumes, struggling to rebound and score.....this current RU roster can get there....its not going to work for Chris Collins and NW at 38 to 39 minutes a game, that I know with 1000% certainty....

Onto Michigan....!!
 
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Pike and Staff coached a terrific game. Rotations were masterful and he stayed with the hot hand.

What superlative can you say about Ace? Was simply a Superman performance !

Was nice to see Acuff have a good game. It’s essential with Dylan out that others pick up the slack.

I was also happy to see Acuff driving more and settling for 10-15 footers and not constantly hoisting 3s

Only negative was free throw shooting once again

Onto Michigan ! Crowd should be amped up however I am quite concerned about our ability to neutralize both Wolf and Vlad Golden. This is a game we ll miss Ogolbe significantly. Let’s hope Ace still has the Superman cape on!
 
I was thinking that Bailey game too and some of the St. John’s games but thought they were tourney games or Garden games. That Holiday Festival games stands out again but not really a road game.
Same with Corey Sanders v Indiana at the Garden.

Riggins getting some astronomical number at PSU?

I still remember Jacob’s dunk over big Purdue center and his interception at Minny.
I believe Phil Sellers had 43 points in this game below, a loss against USC out in LA. I remember reading in the Home News about how happy the USC coach was about not having to play RU, Seller in particular, any more that year lol. Go RU!


Thu, Dec 27, 1973
REG@Southern California (14)Pac-812.66L818243L 1L.A. Sports Arena
 
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Was this JaMichael's best ever game at RU? 8 assists, 3 steals, 1 turnover, 3 assists including two alley oops to Ace. And it looks like plus 19 overall.
He’s starting to look like a veteran out there.

There were several times where someone made a mistake (bad foul, turnover, etc) and JMike would start clapping and huddle the team up. Bringing the positive energy and re-focusing guys. I really liked what he brought to the game yesterday.
 
I can only post what typically happens and what fans see or don't see or notice.

There were other discussions about how good (or not so good) that RU team actually was the laat 2 to 3 seasons. All I know is the rosters were either not deep enough or athletic enough to play 33 to 35 high level games. When Mag got injured, we were already a roster on fumes and running low on speed and athletic ability. My hope was to pull the plug on Mulcahy, because he and the entire starting lineup, lived in the 34 to 36 minutes a game range. For 20 games, sure that works....when you get into late January and February and you're trying to beat the metrics and efficiency models by shortening the rotations, good luck.

Here are the minutes per game by the 2 of the Top 5 leading scoring players in the B1G in Martinelli and Barnheizer.

Barnheizer
38, 39, 38, 45, 37, 38, 39, 36, 34, 37, 43,42, 38, 26, 37

Martinelli

35, 37, 39, 42, 38, 36, 34, 39, 35, 38, 45, 45, 36, 36, 40.

Obviously any game over 40 minutes means you're in an even higher pressure game in OT, against another talented team.

Why is this in the game recap vs Northwestern.....?? Because they look like RU in the last 2 to 3 years.....capable of beating anyone, but that's only for the 1st 15 to 20 games.

NW has lost 6 of 8 and if you play your 2 best players, almost 38 to 40 minutes a night, eventually the shooting falls off, the extra rebounds get taken away, the turnovers or rushed shots don't fall.

For RU and this current season, this (to me) is the deepest roster Pike has put into place since 2020-21. I'm not going to predict results, because it's 5 freshman, (one who's clearly been injured in Harper)....and 2 of the freshman have either just started playing 3 weeks ago (Grant) or 3 days ago (Dortch).

Add in JMike, Acuff, Sommerville and for the most part, RU won the game with more depth, skill and talent and fresher legs last night. Ace is obviously elite, but Grant with a tip in and Dortch with some minutes, offering fresh legs.....he had a monster almost dunk, because he's moving faster than the Northwestern players last night.

RU has one path to succeed the rest of the season.....play the freshman and players who want to fly around, jump, rebound and get deflections and hit offensive and defensive glass.....AND

Figure out a way to convince JWill and Derkack that having the basketball in your hands is a right, not a privilege.

If JWill can stop with these crazy drives and drives with these wild risky passes....and if Derkack can contain himself and mature by dominating the play, by playing under control and not the wild/crazy half court bounce pass he tried at MSG, RU can beat ANYBODY left on the schedule home or away.....(yes, at Purdue, at Michigan, at Oregon, at Maryland).

We have the legs this year, i need this staff to demand taking care of the ball, get Harper closer to 100% and push the freshman energy and JMike, Acuff out there to take care of the ball....

February basketball into March is about who has depth, talent and legs, mixed with upside and improving players. We have seen RU seasons wilt under the lack of depth, lack of athletes and skills, the last 2 to 3 years, where it was on gas fumes, struggling to rebound and score.....this current RU roster can get there....its not going to work for Chris Collins and NW at 38 to 39 minutes a game, that I know with 1000% certainty....

Onto Michigan....!!
They did look worn down and Barnheizer with nose literally looked beat up. Kept expecting a run and never came. We make free throws this would have been a laughter.

I remember Allan Houston coming to the RAC, D’Angelo Russell, Mullin, (We beat him at the RAC) some of the UConn and GT guys(Not Iverson), Louie Orr and thinking, wow we just saw future NBA guys. (I was too young for the Bird game). Camby play at the RAC? Mark Macon was big at the time although I thought over rated. Wonder if Northwestern guys saying the same about Ace.
 
I believe Phil Sellers had 43 points in this game below, a loss against USC out in LA. I remember reading in the Home News about how happy the USC coach was about not having to play RU, Seller in particular, any more that year lol. Go RU!


Thu, Dec 27, 1973
REG@Southern California (14)Pac-812.66L818243L 1L.A. Sports Arena
Remember hearing about USC game. 1973. Wow!! I was too young to listen to that if it was broadcast.

The years leading up to 73-76 were fun too. We really were on the cusp with some pretty good players prior to Phil & Company. Vividly remember as a little kid listening to to RU games on WCTC in kitchen. John Somogyi, Gene Armstead and my favorite Vinny? Roundtree.

All that Big East glory should have been us. Ugh.
 
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Remember hearing about USC game. 1973. Wow!! I was too young to listen to that if it was broadcast.

The years leading up to 73-76 were fun too. We really were on the cusp with some pretty good players prior to Phil & Company. Vividly remember as a little kid listening to to RU games on WCTC in kitchen. John Somogyi, Gene Armstead and my favorite Vinny? Roundtree.

All that Big East glory should have been us. Ugh.
Amen, Brother! Roundtree was one of my favorites his senior year, too- his baseline jumper was money!! I always wondered how well Somogyi and Sellers co-existed in their one year together on The Banks.

As much as he is legendary at RU, Sellers is still underappreciated here. He was an absolutely magnificent college basketball player. RIP, Phil.

You are right....it was all there for Rutgers' taking in the 70's. Mismanagement is a terrible thing 😢. Go RU!
 
Good recap, thought Pike really kicked Collins ass tonight. Pike pushed the right buttons as he limited JWill (maybe his illness caused him to be limited too) and he limited Derkack as well. The offense flowed better with more Acuff and JMike on a night where JWill and Derkack were just being ball dominant ball stoppers. Acuff and JMike combined for 20 pts., 12 assists and 4 boards while JWill and Derkack went for combined 4/2/1. Collins was brutal tonight, not once unless I missed it, did he run a double team at Ace and force others to score instead. Ace was left to roam free against one defender and NWestern paid the price. Terrible job by Collins, he had to try and force Grant, Martini, JMike, Lathan, JWill, Derkack, anybody really BUT ACE, to try and score. Collins never adjusted, he had to force the ball out of Ace’s hands even if it meant the others would get wide open shots. I didn’t understand his strategy at all. If Pike did that and never doubled a player who was killing us we would be killing him, rightfully so.
I thought Collins at the half would adjust and change the strategy with Ace, but he didn't-big surprise.
I thought Acuff had his best game at RU and he moved and defended better than any other game.
 
I thought Collins at the half would adjust and change the strategy with Ace, but he didn't-big surprise.
I thought Acuff had his best game at RU and he moved and defended better than any other game.
I know we're all disappointed in Acuff but I love his demeanor. Seems very mature and no bad body language after a miss or after being pulled. I wish we could see the real Acuff before he was injured.
 
I know we're all disappointed in Acuff but I love his demeanor. Seems very mature and no bad body language after a miss or after being pulled. I wish we could see the real Acuff before he was injured.
Agree. I met him for a work thing and he’s a great guy and representative of RU. I really want to see him find his groove during the home stretch.
 
No I mean hardy. While it is true hearty is the proper word when dealing with food. Rutgers isnt eating soup. Its playing a game and stepped up and fed under difficult conditions

Hardy" describes something strong enough to resist hard, difficult conditions, whereas "hearty" describes something friendly, full of energy,
I respect your effort in trying to be creative, but it just doesn't work linguistically, as to "eat hardy" simply doesn't make sense. Not worth arguing any further over, though, IMO. Let's beat Michigan. Bummed I had to give up this game to go to Florida - would much rather be in the RAC.
 
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"Hearty" means to have strength as in having a big heart. "Hearty"soups by Campbells for Shaq. "Hardy" is a misapplied adjective made up by followers of AP Style guide which gave us single consonants in "canceled" instead of "cancelled". This change of spelling is indicative of the liberal activists changing our verbal reality. RU's win over N'western was a hearty example of teamwork under pressure, reaction to good coaching, and a freedom to activate the singular abilities of so many talented athletes. We will be enjoying more "hearty" efforts this season as a result. These are the new "Hardy Boys."
 
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He had 41 points with 5 assists and 5 rebounds that game. An incredible game but it did go to overtime and he did shoot 15-32. I'd rank them like this:
  1. Bailey @ Northwestern (2025) - 37 Points (13-20, 5-8, 6-6), 6 REB, 0 AST, 1 TO, 0 STL, 3 BLK
    • Incredible shooting efficiency and 3 blocks. 65% from the floor, 63% from Three, and 100% from the FT line. 0 Assists isn't ideal but when you shoot like that and the other team doesn't double, you don't give the ball up.
  2. Douby @ Syracuse (2006) - 41 Points (15-32, 9-17, 2-2), 5 REB, 5 AST, 1 TO, 1 STL, 0 BLK
    • Incredible all around game but 47% shooting, I know still great, and just 1 STL/BLK drops it just below Bailey.
  3. Bailey @ Indiana (2025) - 39 Points (16-29, 4-8, 3-8), 8 REB, 0 AST, 0 TO, 1 STL, 4 BLK
    • Only thing holding this back from #1 is going 3-8 at the FT line and no assists.
  4. Douby @ St. John's (2006) - 36 Points (12-20, 6-9, 6-7), 3 REB, 4 AST, 2 TO, 3 STL, 0 BLK
    • Fantastic shooting day but 2 TOs drops it down to 4th.
Not sure the criteria for selecting those 4 performances except maybe just comparing douby and ace Bailey. Or only road games?

Because you'd have to include Douby's game in the semis of the NIT at MSG in 2006 (?) as one of his greatest games - including context of importance. On a neutral court.

Riggins once scored 51 points in a game... Even if for an awful team that is amazing.

James Bailey scored 41 points, I think vs Hawaii, one game.

Sellers scored 43 vs USC, at USC, in his sophomore year.

I am pretty sure Bob Lloyd scored over 35 several times and over 40 once (or was it even 50?).

Anf of course, this season, Harper scored 36 and 37 in back to back games, on back to back DAYS.
 
What about Rashod Kent (I think) shutting down Troy Murphy and making him cry
OR
Dahntay Jones shutting down Jamel Thomas causing 10 TOs
OR
Any number of Caleb McConnell's games
 
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What about Rashod Kent (I think) shutting down Troy Murphy and making him cry
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Dahntay Jones shutting down Jamel Thomas causing 10 TOs
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Any number of Caleb McConnell's games
I think he was going for road game offense, but point taken. We know you love D and those were great games. Troy Murphy wound up sitting in the 100 section after Rashod muscled him off the blocks all night long.
 
Not sure the criteria for selecting those 4 performances except maybe just comparing douby and ace Bailey. Or only road games?

Because you'd have to include Douby's game in the semis of the NIT at MSG in 2006 (?) as one of his greatest games - including context of importance. On a neutral court.

Riggins once scored 51 points in a game... Even if for an awful team that is amazing.

James Bailey scored 41 points, I think vs Hawaii, one game.

Sellers scored 43 vs USC, at USC, in his sophomore year.

I am pretty sure Bob Lloyd scored over 35 several times and over 40 once (or was it even 50?).

Anf of course, this season, Harper scored 36 and 37 in back to back games, on back to back DAYS.
Criteria was greatest true road game!!

Not Tournaments or Festivals or neutral courts or NIT or NCAA games.

Not greatest game either.

Bob Lloyd way before most fan’s time. From the tales and foul shooting and NIT results know he was great.

Looking like Sellers performance against USC might be front runner. USC was ranked.
Funny wonder how many experienced that game. Guessing no TV and was it late night? Was there radio coverage?

I liked Ace NW performance as we won and only other B1G team to win there was MSU. First half might have been best performance I’ve seen. Still to score that many in Assembly Hall is impressive.

I don’t know if Douby’s game at Cuse or St. John’s was better? Cuse a better team?

Remember the Riggins PSU game. Unstoppable.

Don’t remember the Bailey Hawaii game. Coverage issue? lol. Was I asleep?

I guess the other question after the above games, is which games are next, did Battle, Savage, Hinson, Kelvin Troy, Hughes/Duncan, Final Four team players, Eddie? have huge great true away games we are forgetting?
 
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Criteria was greatest true road game!!

Not Tournaments or Festivals or neutral courts or NIT or NCAA games.

Not greatest game either.

Bob Lloyd way before most fan’s time. From the tales and foul shooting and NIT results know he was great.

Looking like Sellers performance against USC might be front runner. USC was ranked.
Funny wonder how many experienced that game. Guessing no TV and was it late night? Was there radio coverage?

I liked Ace NW performance as we won and only other B1G team to win there was MSU. First half might have been best performance I’ve seen. Still to score that many in Assembly Hall is impressive.

I don’t know if Douby’s game at Cuse or St. John’s was better? Cuse a better team?

Remember the Riggins PSU game. Unstoppable.

Don’t remember the Bailey Hawaii game. Coverage issue? lol. Was I asleep?

I guess the other question after the above games, is which games are next, did Battle, Savage, Hinson, Kelvin Troy, Hughes/Duncan, Final Four team players, Eddie? have huge great true away games we are forgetting?
Criteria being greatest road game. Douby’s 41 against Syracuse is the one I saw and was probably the greatest and unfortunately it was a loss.
But ACE has to be the best 4 games on the road in a row performance and shooting % for Indiana 39 points , Nebraska’s 24 points , Penn State ‘s 30 points and Northwestern’s 37 points. January Player of the Month not just in Rutgers history but maybe in BIg 10 history. The shooting efficiency numbers from the field , from 3 and from the foul line are off the charts. Legendary.
 
Criteria being greatest road game. Douby’s 41 against Syracuse is the one I saw and was probably the greatest and unfortunately it was a loss.
But ACE has to be the best 4 games on the road in a row performance and shooting % for Indiana 39 points , Nebraska’s 24 points , Penn State ‘s 30 points and Northwestern’s 37 points. January Player of the Month not just in Rutgers history but maybe in BIg 10 history. The shooting efficiency numbers from the field , from 3 and from the foul line are off the charts. Legendary.
@goru7

Yes i listened to Sellers score 43 against USC. I dozed a little. WCTC
 
No Dylan Harper, no problem for Rutgers. In one of the most unlikely yet hungriest performance of the season, Rutgers went into Evanston and dispatched of the Cats with relative ease. It is nice to win again. I am going to give alot of credit to this team and the coaching staff. They really worked hard and were ready to play. Such a frustrating season for they players and coaching staff but they get to enjoy this one. Harper was pretty much everything for RU in the 2024 part of the season with Ace still trying to find his way. Harper has been hampered by various ills and the teams fortunes went down even as Ace developed into a NBA starter over the past few weeks. While Ace was the main ingredient tonight, the Knights would not have been victorious if the much maligned supporting cast did not step up and eat. Perhaps some players more comfortable without Harper on the court. It sure seemed like it. Upperclassmen stepping up with timely shots. The youth movement of more time and positive contributions from Grant and Dortsch given RU an added dimension of some length. I was struck by how committed RU was to rebounding and playing some tough defense. Northwestern really struggled getting into any flow and has RU hands and arms just enough to bother them. I saw alot of rushed type blown bunnies by the Cats. I came away unimpressed by Northwestern and do not think they have much NCAA hopes and will likely be competing to make the Big 10 tournament

First Ace Bailey just a sick first half. 9-10 fg and it didnt matter what kind of defense Northwestern played, Ace was making anything and everything. Ace has now made this his team in the absence of Dylan. A once in a lifetime talent for Rutgers. You can lament the disappointment of this season but Ace has delivered in spades. Not as deadly in the 2nd half but didnt need to be as his teammates stepped up. Ace finished with 37 points just 2 off his career high. 13-20 fg, 5-8 from 3, 6-6 at the line, 6 boards and 3 blocks. Ace will be the best player on the court ion every single game he plays the rest of the season. He will throw in some clunkers like vs Michigan State every now and then but you pretty much know he is capable of going off on these heaters every single night and that at least is a glimmer of hope for Rutgers fans to try and stay in games. Also liked that Ace kept his emotions in check tonight and let his stats do the talking. Man this kid just loves basketball, you can see it when he does post game interviews he practically cannot contain himself. Imagine if we could have him for one more year.

Yet unlike at Indiana or Penn State where Ace went off, this time Ace had some help. I think a key sequence with RU struggling to score at the start of the first half jumpstarted RU and never looked back. Zak Martini big time deep 3 to put RU up 50-42 and then Acuff came out of nowhere with a bucket to put RU up 10 and then later with a huge 3 to extend the lead to 12 and then flipped in a jumper when NW had crept to within 7. Acuff ended up with 13 on 5-7 fg shooting and 4 assists. J Mike was very good tonight. Its a shame we dont get this every night from him. Great court vision with 8 assists and he even contributed offensively with 8 points on 3-6 fg shooting and great defense with 3 steals. Big dunk at the end that effectively made this academic. Overall the supporting cast followed Ace's lead and fed themselves going 15-29 fg for 42 points. RU shot 57% overall and 57% from 3 at 8-14. Grant was solid early contributing 6. Dortsch continues to get his feet wet and isnt looking all that bad, just missing a great dunk as he was fouled...albeit his ft need work. J Will and JD absolutely did not have it tonight and good on Pike for recognizing that and limiting their minutes. J Will was plagued by the flu so only 15 minutes. Tough break for JD after his career 26 point game but he was forcing things too much and that was hurting the team. Lathan was good and bad but still battled with 9 points and 6 boards.

It is ridiculous but maybe having 2 NBA superstars on a team isnt a good thing. Can both coexist in a way where the rest of the team can breath and eat? Interesting question. Of course RU is more of a threat to win game with a healthy Harper and I am not forgetting everything he brings. Having both Ace/Dylan to me means less of the rest of the team about to feel confident and not worry about making mistakes. Hopefully Dylan can get healthy quickly and some of the development RU has show with some individual young player like Grant and Dortsch and the tougher defense RU has played of late can all be integrated together and at least for the fans we can have an entertaining last 6 weeks of the season.

So Pike has been criticized so much this year, its time to give him some credit for keeping the team together and pushing the right buttons without Harper in the lineup. I have seen better RU teams mail it in vs Northwestern who is usually well coached but looked more like pussycats rather than Wildcats tonight. 11-10 on to 2 game home stretch bac at the rac vs 2 very good NCAA bound teams but 2 teams that have shown some vulnerability in the past few games. It would be a perfect time for some legendary RAC hocus pocus that might feed the Rutgers faithful's love tank to keep us warm in February.
Folks, RU was 3-1 in BIG games Harper played in 100%. As disappointing as the season has been it was not and IS not over!!! We were always going to take time to get these kids playing connected .

My bigger issue was playing Harp vs MSU!

Now hopefully we can pull out this game vs Mich without him (Don’t rush him back!!!)

Then see what happens … Keep the faith!!
 
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I cannot find the box score for the RU-USC game anywhere.

So ... RU played USC in back to back seasons, oddly enough:

1) On 12/27/73, In Sellers' Sophomore season, on the road, versus USC, either then ranked #19 or #14 - or possibly USC was #14 at the end of the season. But Tis game was at an arena called the L.A. Sports Arena, which I believe was USC's home basketball arena at the time. USC won 82-81. Sellers scored 43 points in that game.

2) Then again, versus USC at the 1974 Holiday Festival at MSG - USC again ranked according to sports-reference.com, either #6 at the time of the game or the end of the season. USC won this game easily, 81-66. FYI - in this game Sellers scored 32 points of RU's 66, on 14-22 FG.

I am certain Sellers scored his 43 points in his SOPHOMORE season, in the 1st USC game, AT USC, in the L.A. Sports Arena, USC's home arena (able to confirm it through internet research). But I DISTINCTLY remember listening to that game on the radio - I was a young teen, and the game STARTED after my bedtime - so I snuck listened on the radio under my sheets. Even on the radio the sheer excitement of the game was overwhelming. Sellers just would not give in or give up ... scored 43 points of RU's 81 points - and nearly willed RU to a HUGE upset win. I also remember the USC coach (Bob Boyd?), being quoted after the game about Sellers' performance something to the effect: "I have no idea what I just saw but I never want to see it again."

So ... in back to back seasons versus a ranked USC team, Sellers scored 43b points and then 32 points. Not bad, eh? Sellers also scored 40 vs Columbia in '73-'74 - so he scored 40 or more 2X in the same season.

FYI, I was wrong about James Bailey: He scored 43 points as his high, and against William & Mary, not Hawaii. I think it was against Hawaii he may have had 10+ blocked shots n- or was that Hinson?

Bob Lloyd scored 40 or more points 5 times, FYI (though I do not know if any were on the road): 51 vs Delaware, 45 vs Glassboro St, 44 vs Marshall, 42 vs Utah St, and 40 vs Penn St (the 40 and 51 point games were in '65-'66, the 46, 44 and 42 point games were in '66-'67).

Keith Hughes scored 40 in a game also - vs Penn St in '90-'91.

Lloyd and Sellers were the only RU players to ever score 40 or more points more than once (Lloyd 5 times, 3 in 1 season, 2 in anther season) and Sellers 2 times, both in 1 season).
 
My freshman year was the Final 4 team so I missed this one. Stats ? Anywhere?
I could never find a boxscore for this game. Only found a reference for 43 points, 4 rebounds for Phil in the LA game. Hope no one minds me posting all of the below again but below is an article about Phil the everyone might like, that was published in Sports Illustrated in January 1975 after USC played us again here at MSG the following season. I'll try to post the link, but I am not always successful when I do that ( https://vault.si.com/vault/1975/01/20/one-very-stormy-sellers ) . I thought I had read most everything about Phil, but I had never seen this before. There are probably only a very few people that could count themselves as bigger Phil fans than I am, so I am very biased. This article is pretty good at giving a peek inside Phil Sellers and the times in which he played. It includes some additional comments from the USC coach. Phil was basically a 6-4 power forward. Tom Young was a very smart coach and he knew he didn't want Phil wandering too far from the boards. If Phil had gone to a different school, he might have developed a better handle, been able to work on his outside game. However, I will be forever grateful that Phil (whom I've never met) decided to spend his 4 years at Rutgers at the same time I did. The article:

Press releases cranked out by Rutgers' publicity office invariably describe Phil Sellers, a 6'5" junior forward, as a "does-it-all" player. The literature naturally dwells on such matters as the 23 points and eight rebounds Sellers has averaged in leading the New Jersey school to a surprising 10-2 record. But what the handouts do not mention is of equal note. Why is Sellers always jawing at referees, teammates and opponents? How come anguish so often clouds his features? Why is he forever taking dramatic falls during games? In short, is Sellers doing it all to become an All-America—which he probably will—or is it an Academy Award he wants?

What makes Sellers' histrionics so striking is his relatively mild manner off the court. Admitting to something of a Jekyll-and-Hyde personality, he says, "I get involved when I'm playing. Sometimes I just get carried away." Sellers' involvement has cost him technical fouls—four already this season—as well as a nasty scar on his shoulder from a memorable collision with a press table. It also has led him to complain to the officials virtually every time a call goes against him and, most annoying, to grin gloatingly whenever he gets away with something.

Some of Sellers' reactions are understandable; he is a marked man who usually must fight through double-and triple-team defenses to score. Rugged enough to crash the boards and quick enough for the press Rutgers frequently employs, he is the kind of heavy-duty player unseen in New Jersey since Bill Bradley was putting on his does-it-all act down Highway 27 in Princeton. A deft passer and outside shooter, Sellers also is called upon to play low post, where he must work against bigger opponents. "Phil takes a beating underneath, but he loves contact," says Tom Young, who became Rutgers' coach last year after a winning record at American University. "He takes it right to the other guy."

It is a sign of at least some restraint that Sellers has never been drawn into a real fight on the court. He says, "I'm a lot more help playing than I'd be if I got thrown out." And he acknowledges a desire to curb his passions: "I need to have a little more cool out there. Everybody expected me to play a major role here, and that's put pressure on me. I've still got some growing up to do."

Sellers' involvement with the game began on the playgrounds of Brooklyn, where he spent so much time that "People used to tell me I was going to turn into a basketball. They even asked me if I slept with my basketball." Sellers was a schoolboy All-America at Thomas Jefferson High and was selected MVP of Pittsburgh's prestigious Dapper Dan all-star game at the end of his senior season. After sifting through offers from 200 colleges, he signed a letter of intent to go to Notre Dame. But last-minute jitters about his ability to hack it there academically persuaded him to enroll at Livingston College, a part of Rutgers specially designed to help students from low-income backgrounds. Sellers was a 20-point scorer as a freshman while Rutgers stumbled to a 14-11 record. With Young's arrival last season the Scarlet Knights improved to 18-8, but some reporters concentrated instead on what one of them called Sellers' "unbecoming conduct."

As Rutgers now flirts with an unaccustomed spot in the Top 20, Sellers' efforts at self-modulation are apparent. Called for technicals, he apologizes promptly. He also has become less severe with teammates. "Now I pat them on the rear when I criticize them," he says. "I want them to know I don't mean anything personal." At a team meeting Sellers listened sheepishly as Young pointedly said, "Phil isn't the one who makes out the starting lineup around here." But the coach also says, "One of Phil's problems is that he's such a smart player. He picks on the other guys out of frustration. While they're still trying to understand what I'm talking about, he's already learned it."

Sellers' basketball sense also impresses Southern Cal Coach Bob Boyd, who attributes the Rutgers player's abrasive style partly to "outstanding gamesmanship." Specifically, Boyd has in mind Sellers' success at drawing offensive fouls, an art requiring courage, good floor position and, what can scarcely fail to interest an observer from Los Angeles, inspired acting. During the Holiday Festival games at Madison Square Garden, in which Rutgers took third behind upset winner Fordham and USC, Sellers scored 76 points and, amazingly, drew nine charging fouls in three games. In a subsequent 97-87 win over Long Island University, Sellers drew three more offensive fouls. Early in the game he warned Nate Revels, the LIU forward guarding him, "I'm going to foul you out." Then he proceeded to do exactly that.


The boasting was forgivable. Later Revels admitted that it was he who actually started the verbal sparring. One of Revels' fouls occurred when he slammed into Sellers as Sellers was driving for the basket. Stepping to the free-throw line, Sellers grinned hugely. Significantly, he was looking at Revels, not at the referee. As the Scarlet Knights' does-it-all forward says, "I'm starting to realize it's not smart to make the refs look bad." Maybe he has things more under control than it appears.
 
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I remember Hughes having good games. Just didn’t remember home or away. Interesting against PSU again.
Remember one game at Jadwin where it was basically Steve Worthy in isolation v Princeton and we won.

But nothing like the above games cited.
 
Folks, RU was 3-1 in BIG games Harper played in 100%. As disappointing as the season has been it was not and IS not over!!! We were always going to take time to get these kids playing connected .

My bigger issue was playing Harp vs MSU!

Now hopefully we can pull out this game vs Mich without him (Don’t rush him back!!!)

Then see what happens … Keep the faith!!
You keep repeating this 3-1 thing as if it means anything. Besides two of those wins being against the bottom Big teams, we may not see a completely healthy Harper again. He played almost 30 minutes against Purdue, and honestly, played a big role in us losing that game because he was utterly useless. Can't just ignore that game on his ledger.
 
I could never find a boxscore for this game. Only found a reference for 43 points, 4 rebounds for Phil in the LA game. Hope no one minds me posting all of the below again but below is an article about Phil the everyone might like, that was published in Sports Illustrated in January 1975 after USC played us again here at MSG the following season. I'll try to post the link, but I am not always successful when I do that ( https://vault.si.com/vault/1975/01/20/one-very-stormy-sellers ) . I thought I had read most everything about Phil, but I had never seen this before. There are probably only a very few people that could count themselves as bigger Phil fans than I am, so I am very biased. This article is pretty good at giving a peek inside Phil Sellers and the times in which he played. It includes some additional comments from the USC coach. Phil was basically a 6-4 power forward. Tom Young was a very smart coach and he knew he didn't want Phil wandering too far from the boards. If Phil had gone to a different school, he might have developed a better handle, been able to work on his outside game. However, I will be forever grateful that Phil (whom I've never met) decided to spend his 4 years at Rutgers at the same time I did. The article:

Press releases cranked out by Rutgers' publicity office invariably describe Phil Sellers, a 6'5" junior forward, as a "does-it-all" player. The literature naturally dwells on such matters as the 23 points and eight rebounds Sellers has averaged in leading the New Jersey school to a surprising 10-2 record. But what the handouts do not mention is of equal note. Why is Sellers always jawing at referees, teammates and opponents? How come anguish so often clouds his features? Why is he forever taking dramatic falls during games? In short, is Sellers doing it all to become an All-America—which he probably will—or is it an Academy Award he wants?

What makes Sellers' histrionics so striking is his relatively mild manner off the court. Admitting to something of a Jekyll-and-Hyde personality, he says, "I get involved when I'm playing. Sometimes I just get carried away." Sellers' involvement has cost him technical fouls—four already this season—as well as a nasty scar on his shoulder from a memorable collision with a press table. It also has led him to complain to the officials virtually every time a call goes against him and, most annoying, to grin gloatingly whenever he gets away with something.

Some of Sellers' reactions are understandable; he is a marked man who usually must fight through double-and triple-team defenses to score. Rugged enough to crash the boards and quick enough for the press Rutgers frequently employs, he is the kind of heavy-duty player unseen in New Jersey since Bill Bradley was putting on his does-it-all act down Highway 27 in Princeton. A deft passer and outside shooter, Sellers also is called upon to play low post, where he must work against bigger opponents. "Phil takes a beating underneath, but he loves contact," says Tom Young, who became Rutgers' coach last year after a winning record at American University. "He takes it right to the other guy."

It is a sign of at least some restraint that Sellers has never been drawn into a real fight on the court. He says, "I'm a lot more help playing than I'd be if I got thrown out." And he acknowledges a desire to curb his passions: "I need to have a little more cool out there. Everybody expected me to play a major role here, and that's put pressure on me. I've still got some growing up to do."

Sellers' involvement with the game began on the playgrounds of Brooklyn, where he spent so much time that "People used to tell me I was going to turn into a basketball. They even asked me if I slept with my basketball." Sellers was a schoolboy All-America at Thomas Jefferson High and was selected MVP of Pittsburgh's prestigious Dapper Dan all-star game at the end of his senior season. After sifting through offers from 200 colleges, he signed a letter of intent to go to Notre Dame. But last-minute jitters about his ability to hack it there academically persuaded him to enroll at Livingston College, a part of Rutgers specially designed to help students from low-income backgrounds. Sellers was a 20-point scorer as a freshman while Rutgers stumbled to a 14-11 record. With Young's arrival last season the Scarlet Knights improved to 18-8, but some reporters concentrated instead on what one of them called Sellers' "unbecoming conduct."

As Rutgers now flirts with an unaccustomed spot in the Top 20, Sellers' efforts at self-modulation are apparent. Called for technicals, he apologizes promptly. He also has become less severe with teammates. "Now I pat them on the rear when I criticize them," he says. "I want them to know I don't mean anything personal." At a team meeting Sellers listened sheepishly as Young pointedly said, "Phil isn't the one who makes out the starting lineup around here." But the coach also says, "One of Phil's problems is that he's such a smart player. He picks on the other guys out of frustration. While they're still trying to understand what I'm talking about, he's already learned it."

Sellers' basketball sense also impresses Southern Cal Coach Bob Boyd, who attributes the Rutgers player's abrasive style partly to "outstanding gamesmanship." Specifically, Boyd has in mind Sellers' success at drawing offensive fouls, an art requiring courage, good floor position and, what can scarcely fail to interest an observer from Los Angeles, inspired acting. During the Holiday Festival games at Madison Square Garden, in which Rutgers took third behind upset winner Fordham and USC, Sellers scored 76 points and, amazingly, drew nine charging fouls in three games. In a subsequent 97-87 win over Long Island University, Sellers drew three more offensive fouls. Early in the game he warned Nate Revels, the LIU forward guarding him, "I'm going to foul you out." Then he proceeded to do exactly that.


The boasting was forgivable. Later Revels admitted that it was he who actually started the verbal sparring. One of Revels' fouls occurred when he slammed into Sellers as Sellers was driving for the basket. Stepping to the free-throw line, Sellers grinned hugely. Significantly, he was looking at Revels, not at the referee. As the Scarlet Knights' does-it-all forward says, "I'm starting to realize it's not smart to make the refs look bad." Maybe he has things more under control than it appears.
Several things on Sellers, from my perspective (and I saw him play almost all home games):

1) RU has never had a player with a greater desire to win a game, with a fiercer will to win, than Sellers ... and it is not even close. The closest player in RU history in desire to win and perform on the court was Kelvin Troy. The "tiers" of desire to win were: Tier 1: Sellers ... Tier 2: Troy ... Tier 3: Everyone else.

2) FYI - not really important, but interesting: Sellers was the 24th player in NCAA history to amass 2000 points and 1000 rebounds in his career. James Bailey was the 31st such player. The number has exploded, starting with players being allowed to play as freshmen, getting 4 years to play - Sellers was the 1st generation of that player. Sellers is still top 30 in career points, FYI.
 
It’s funny but not sure if Dick Landis knows how much influence he had. He was very good.

Grew up in South River so right on cusp of trying to figure out 50, 52, 54 or 56? Some days it was all 4!

Loved the RU v Princeton games.

Oddly one of my favorite games on NJ Channel was Danny Callinerdrilo going off on Georgia Tech on NJ Public TV.
 
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They aren't a very talented team, they just play very hard, and physical. Also an extremely ugly group of kids!
25-3 at home for NW says they play well and win at home. Maybe Rutgers played and coached very well in this game to make NW look “not talented.” Heck, Dylan Grant, a freshman defended the leading scorer in the B1G to a 5-16 and 3 turnover game.

You are allowed to give this Rutgers team some credit.
 
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25-3 at home for NW says they play well and win at home. Maybe Rutgers played and coached very well in this game to make NW look “not talented.” Heck, Dylan Grant, a freshman defended the leading scorer in the B1G to a 5-16 and 3 turnover game.

You are allowed to give this Rutgers team some credit.
Any road win is a good win and RU kids get all the credit, especially playing short handed. That doesn't make Northwestern better than they really are. I don't think there is a stat they are top 100 in the country in, maybe steals. They are a team that maximizes itself by not turning the ball over and rebounds offensively, but are 3-7 in conference for a reason.
 
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