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Gavitt Recap.....B1G lack of hunger and RU

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To help the masses, this is not isolated to just RU vs DePaul, but a general sense of what we saw in 4 days of basketball.....and when you are the best league in College Basketball or at worse the best or 2nd best over an extended period of time of the last 3 years, the vibe from watching is the B1G kinda rested on itself......

What we saw was a lack of urgency across most of the games....I can only say with confidence that Nebraska and Indiana played with a sense of urgency....maybe because Indiana has a new coach and they had a strong home court, but the rest felt very "lax".

Michigan hosting Seton Hall never stepped up the intensity to match what SHU threw out....Providence just wanted it more than Wisconsin....and even though Michigan State was just better than an injury riddled Butler, it was not a situation where Sparty looked interested.

It was most noticeable last night at Xavier.....they never get to play Ohio State and the crowd was energized....OSU seemed liked when they stepped up the intensity, they missed layups, rushed shots and then it was too late.....much of what we saw last night with RU was a casual or very lax effort....it wasn't until DePaul hit shots late, that RU stepped up its intensity and focus.

It is a very long season....but I think the Big East absolutely had no margin for error....the Big East could be a little better than last year but when you are playing the B1G and beating a B1G team can make or break your NCAA resume, it showed over 4 games.

The Big East teams were hungrier, played harder, played with the urgency that they knew they absolutely had to have these head to head matchups.

I think the B1G teams know the league is a gauntlet and that they have to have something left in the tank for January and February.....20 league games is a monster when your league is balanced and solid from top to bottom.

I don't know how RU reacts for the 1st time really being considered a statement game for a DePaul, UMass....Clemson or Seton Hall etc.....but it is clear to me for RU, this is new territory as a game that matters on an opponent's schedule. Pike, Brandin Knight, Karl Hobbs etc have to start to ramp up the intensity and get Jaden Jones, Mawot Mag, Cliff and Paul, Caleb on the ball.....and RHJ and Baker have to understand what happened last year is last year.....teams are coming after RU now with a new amount of intensity......How does Pike respond....

And I actually think this carries over to our fanbase.....There is a lack of intensity at the RAC during these early games....you can say it's RU play that factors into that, but the RU fan base needs to push the reset button.....stop whining about what didn't happen and get back to being loud....I get the impression that a good amount of fans are a little entitled or arrogant and it comes across in the posts on the board.....like we are supposed to arrive and things will go our way......

I think the next 2 to 3 weeks will be very telling.....Clemson is very capable of winning at the RAC if the building isn't electric....or are we waiting for Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State etc to get to the RAC to turn it up......??
 
To help the masses, this is not isolated to just RU vs DePaul, but a general sense of what we saw in 4 days of basketball.....and when you are the best league in College Basketball or at worse the best or 2nd best over an extended period of time of the last 3 years, the vibe from watching is the B1G kinda rested on itself......

What we saw was a lack of urgency across most of the games....I can only say with confidence that Nebraska and Indiana played with a sense of urgency....maybe because Indiana has a new coach and they had a strong home court, but the rest felt very "lax".

Michigan hosting Seton Hall never stepped up the intensity to match what SHU threw out....Providence just wanted it more than Wisconsin....and even though Michigan State was just better than an injury riddled Butler, it was not a situation where Sparty looked interested.

It was most noticeable last night at Xavier.....they never get to play Ohio State and the crowd was energized....OSU seemed liked when they stepped up the intensity, they missed layups, rushed shots and then it was too late.....much of what we saw last night with RU was a casual or very lax effort....it wasn't until DePaul hit shots late, that RU stepped up its intensity and focus.

It is a very long season....but I think the Big East absolutely had no margin for error....the Big East could be a little better than last year but when you are playing the B1G and beating a B1G team can make or break your NCAA resume, it showed over 4 games.

The Big East teams were hungrier, played harder, played with the urgency that they knew they absolutely had to have these head to head matchups.

I think the B1G teams know the league is a gauntlet and that they have to have something left in the tank for January and February.....20 league games is a monster when your league is balanced and solid from top to bottom.

I don't know how RU reacts for the 1st time really being considered a statement game for a DePaul, UMass....Clemson or Seton Hall etc.....but it is clear to me for RU, this is new territory as a game that matters on an opponent's schedule. Pike, Brandin Knight, Karl Hobbs etc have to start to ramp up the intensity and get Jaden Jones, Mawot Mag, Cliff and Paul, Caleb on the ball.....and RHJ and Baker have to understand what happened last year is last year.....teams are coming after RU now with a new amount of intensity......How does Pike respond....

And I actually think this carries over to our fanbase.....There is a lack of intensity at the RAC during these early games....you can say it's RU play that factors into that, but the RU fan base needs to push the reset button.....stop whining about what didn't happen and get back to being loud....I get the impression that a good amount of fans are a little entitled or arrogant and it comes across in the posts on the board.....like we are supposed to arrive and things will go our way......

I think the next 2 to 3 weeks will be very telling.....Clemson is very capable of winning at the RAC if the building isn't electric....or are we waiting for Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State etc to get to the RAC to turn it up......??
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.

You are a professor from a mountain top lecturing to an apathetic fan base? Seriously. Rutgers has one of the most fervent and hungry fan bases in the country. Rutgers is not losing because of a fan base.
And now Rutgers is losing because it is the hunted?
You pose Seton Hall?Do you think Rutgers is more of a statement game than at Michigan or Texas two nights before?????

Back off on Rutgers fans. This board is more active than any board but Michigan and the RAC is according to Bilas a top 10 atmosphere! Nothing had changed there. My goodness.
 
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.

You are a professor from a mountain top lecturing to an apathetic fan base? Seriously. Rutgers has one of the most fervent and hungry fan bases in the country. Rutgers is not losing because of a fan base.
And now Rutgers is losing because it is the hunted?
You pose Seton Hall?Do you think Rutgers is more of a statement game than at Michigan or Texas two nights before?????

Back off on Rutgers fans. This board is more active than any board but Michigan and the RAC is according to Bilas a top 10 atmosphere! Nothing had changed there. My goodness.

I am reading posts on the board, on Facebook pages and Twitter etc....I don't know what you are reading or seeing, maybe you are elsewhere.....
 
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To help the masses, this is not isolated to just RU vs DePaul, but a general sense of what we saw in 4 days of basketball.....and when you are the best league in College Basketball or at worse the best or 2nd best over an extended period of time of the last 3 years, the vibe from watching is the B1G kinda rested on itself......

What we saw was a lack of urgency across most of the games....I can only say with confidence that Nebraska and Indiana played with a sense of urgency....maybe because Indiana has a new coach and they had a strong home court, but the rest felt very "lax".

Michigan hosting Seton Hall never stepped up the intensity to match what SHU threw out....Providence just wanted it more than Wisconsin....and even though Michigan State was just better than an injury riddled Butler, it was not a situation where Sparty looked interested.

It was most noticeable last night at Xavier.....they never get to play Ohio State and the crowd was energized....OSU seemed liked when they stepped up the intensity, they missed layups, rushed shots and then it was too late.....much of what we saw last night with RU was a casual or very lax effort....it wasn't until DePaul hit shots late, that RU stepped up its intensity and focus.

It is a very long season....but I think the Big East absolutely had no margin for error....the Big East could be a little better than last year but when you are playing the B1G and beating a B1G team can make or break your NCAA resume, it showed over 4 games.

The Big East teams were hungrier, played harder, played with the urgency that they knew they absolutely had to have these head to head matchups.

I think the B1G teams know the league is a gauntlet and that they have to have something left in the tank for January and February.....20 league games is a monster when your league is balanced and solid from top to bottom.

I don't know how RU reacts for the 1st time really being considered a statement game for a DePaul, UMass....Clemson or Seton Hall etc.....but it is clear to me for RU, this is new territory as a game that matters on an opponent's schedule. Pike, Brandin Knight, Karl Hobbs etc have to start to ramp up the intensity and get Jaden Jones, Mawot Mag, Cliff and Paul, Caleb on the ball.....and RHJ and Baker have to understand what happened last year is last year.....teams are coming after RU now with a new amount of intensity......How does Pike respond....

And I actually think this carries over to our fanbase.....There is a lack of intensity at the RAC during these early games....you can say it's RU play that factors into that, but the RU fan base needs to push the reset button.....stop whining about what didn't happen and get back to being loud....I get the impression that a good amount of fans are a little entitled or arrogant and it comes across in the posts on the board.....like we are supposed to arrive and things will go our way......

I think the next 2 to 3 weeks will be very telling.....Clemson is very capable of winning at the RAC if the building isn't electric....or are we waiting for Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State etc to get to the RAC to turn it up......??
I was going to post a message entitled "Passion and Movement" (how RU has shown little of both). But you beat me to it with your spot-on analysis.
 
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.

You are a professor from a mountain top lecturing to an apathetic fan base? Seriously. Rutgers has one of the most fervent and hungry fan bases in the country. Rutgers is not losing because of a fan base.
And now Rutgers is losing because it is the hunted?
You pose Seton Hall?Do you think Rutgers is more of a statement game than at Michigan or Texas two nights before?????

Back off on Rutgers fans. This board is more active than any board but Michigan and the RAC is according to Bilas a top 10 atmosphere! Nothing had changed there. My goodness.

My premise again is that the Big East had much more at stake in the Gavitt matchups across the board. It is not a given as of today, that just being at .500 in the Big East, without beating a B1G team for an Xavier or Providence or Seton Hall will be enough of a resume......Maybe all of these teams are NCAA caliber with or without these wins, but my guess is it is unlikely.
 
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Not buying this and it's way too dismissive of the play of Big East teams. Maybe these teams are just better at this point in the season. If not, shame on the B1G teams for not taking care of business. Really has little to do with the fans. Our fans were chomping at the bit to get loud, but missed shot after missed shot threw a wet blanket on the RAC.
 
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Not buying this and it's way too dismissive of the play of Big East teams. Maybe these teams are just better at this point in the season. If not, shame on the B1G teams for not taking care of business.
So DePaul won because they had more to gain. Got it.So Rutgers will next be hungry against Purdue. Is that the theory? There is very little to separate the Big Ten and Big East as of today and perhaps this season. Both have awful teams like Penn State and DePaul and great teams like Nova and Michigan and hopefully Purdue. Big East should get 5-6 bids and Big Ten 8 with a hope for 9. Every season is not the same because of a conference patch on one's sleeve.
 
So DePaul won because they had more to gain. Got it.So Rutgers will next be hungry against Purdue. Is that the theory? There is very little to separate the Big Ten and Big East as of today and perhaps this season. Both have awful teams like Penn State and DePaul and great teams like Nova and Michigan and hopefully Purdue. Big East should get 5-6 bids and Big Ten 8 with a hope for 9. Every season is not the same because of a conference patch on one's sleeve.
I think you meant to quote Hawk not me on this response.
 
I really just think the Big Ten is not that strong this year. Not weak, necessarily, but more of an average/above-average Power 6 conference as opposed to the best one like the last two years.
Based on the data we have so far that is a pretty good assessment. When it comes to NCAA tournament seeding the Gavitt games and the ACC challenge are enormously important.
 
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Wow Hawk. Every team plays the game to win it. That's the whole point of playing. Results have nothing to do with who is "hungrier". Come on, you're better than that.
 
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@NewJerseyHawk This is a bad take. The fans showed up.
You were the one all off season telling us how losing Jacob and Myles weren't big losses snd we were better this year and shouting down the naysayers. You were wrong so far. It's that simple. Don't make up weird excuses.
Spot on take, Superfan. The dude is constantly moving the goalposts. It's never anything Rutgers did wrong with him.
 
The Big East teams for the most part play the game of 2021 and are quick and athletic “basketball players”. The B1G plays the game of the 90s with mammoth centers and slower and more plodding specialists. Of course, this is not true of all teams and players.

The B1G had a great OOC last season and it led to unrealistic expectations later when other teams got better and the B1G ate its own during the regular season. Then, their slower games were exposed in the tournament.

The B1G needs an influx of new age coaches and players to adapt to the uptempo game. IMO. The Gavitt Games was a sh*tshow for the league and the better teams won. It had nothing to do with fans and urgency..…so much for the supposed demise of the Big East.
 
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Can’t agree with the OP. Deflecting towards fan apathy? C’mon, tickets are flying off the shelves, the fan base is clamoring to see this team, but we’ve watched a disorganized uninspired product. It’s entertainment. Those providing it need to show the audience why their money is well spent.
 
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.

You are a professor from a mountain top lecturing to an apathetic fan base? Seriously. Rutgers has one of the most fervent and hungry fan bases in the country. Rutgers is not losing because of a fan base.
And now Rutgers is losing because it is the hunted?
You pose Seton Hall?Do you think Rutgers is more of a statement game than at Michigan or Texas two nights before?????

Back off on Rutgers fans. This board is more active than any board but Michigan and the RAC is according to Bilas a top 10 atmosphere! Nothing had changed there. My goodness.

OP is the biggest sanctimonious blowhard on these boards.

Sells and spins bad basketball and bad recruiting like he's selling a refinanced mortgage. Talks down to "fans" ( as he uses the word in EVERY post) .
 
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So DePaul won because they had more to gain. Got it.So Rutgers will next be hungry against Purdue. Is that the theory? There is very little to separate the Big Ten and Big East as of today and perhaps this season. Both have awful teams like Penn State and DePaul and great teams like Nova and Michigan and hopefully Purdue. Big East should get 5-6 bids and Big Ten 8 with a hope for 9. Every season is not the same because of a conference patch on one's sleeve.

I didn't say what you wrote, I watched the games and to me, they played harder. You could not watch the Illinois vs Marquette game and walk away from that game, thinking Illinois played focused or at the intensity level that Marquette did.

And my initial premise was not a dig at RU fans as you twisted it....it is an observation that so far, if you are reading what RU fans are posting here and elsewhere, that there isn't a chip on the shoulders of our fans and there is not a sense of urgency displayed on the court from players 1 through whatever. You can argue that all that you like, it is not a knock that fans are not loyal or anything else you added that I did not say or come anywhere near what you added inaccurately.

My point is there are some fans posting here and on other places acting as if RU has arrived and that comes across in the commentary on the players and other things. I am not making those posts, I am just reading what is being said and commenting on it.....that has nothing to do with loyalty or anything else you added.
 
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Can’t agree with the OP. Deflecting towards fan apathy? C’mon, tickets are flying off the shelves, the fan base is clamoring to see this team, but we’ve watched a disorganized uninspired product. It’s entertainment. Those providing it need to show the audience why their money is well spent.

Someone else said fans are apathetic, I did not.....find RU72 and his response to my comments about what I an reading here and elsewhere, he twisted or added that comment, I did not state that or post that....
 
OP is the biggest sanctimonious blowhard on these boards.

Sells and spins bad basketball and bad recruiting like he's selling a refinanced mortgage. Talks down to "fans" ( as he uses the word in EVERY post) .
Disagree with him, but please don't get personal. That is terrible.

NJH is a fan like all/most of us. His glass isn't half full it is over flowing.
 
OP is the biggest sanctimonious blowhard on these boards.

Sells and spins bad basketball and bad recruiting like he's selling a refinanced mortgage. Talks down to "fans" ( as he uses the word in EVERY post) .

Yeah you are correct....LOL.....maybe you can debate what I posted about the 8 games and post about what you watched.....or maybe you didn't watch any of the games at all....the main post is that despite what you may think, what I posted was my observation about the entire 4 days of games.....

If that is something you disagree with, it is not me talking down to anyone.........my opinion and observations are just that.....you can respond with whatever you like.....this is a message board, people are free to post whatever they like.....I watch a lot of hoops and I am sure hundreds or thousands here do as well. Just counter with what you saw.....that's the point of what this is about.
 
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Disagree with him, but please don't get personal. That is terrible.

NJH is a fan like all/most of us. His glass isn't half full it is over flowing.

I am not a half full person.....I don't like living in the past or crying about kids that played here and transferred....kids transfer all the time....I wish them well and move onto focus on what or who is here. Lamenting what might be, isn't something I sit and dwell on.

I am confident that Jaden and Hyatt are bona-fide players.....am also concerned that we do need upgrades in the portal or with the rest of 2022 and 2023 recruiting.....that's not overflowing or half full.....that's where things stand today.

It's 4 games in and a player I believe is capable of doing way more in Jaden Jones, has not been given the amount of PT or minutes that I expected.....will that change?? I expect it to.....how soon.... I am not the coach.

Fire away if you must, I have all day.....!!!😁
 
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I am not a half full person.....I don't like living in the past or crying about kids that played here and transferred....kids transfer all the time....I wish them well and move onto focus on what or who is here. Lamenting what might be, isn't something I sit and dwell on.

I am confident that Jaden and Hyatt are bona-fide players.....am also concerned that we do need upgrades in the portal or with the rest of 2022 and 2023 recruiting.....that's not overflowing or half full.....that's where things stand today.

It's 4 games in and a player I believe is capable of doing way more in Jaden Jones, has not been given the amount of PT or minutes that I expected.....will that change?? I expect it to.....how soon.... I am not the coach.

Fire away if you must, I have all day.....!!!😁
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Jones knows what is necessary to get PT. Is it worth short term pain to get him to be better on the defensive end? YES Is he being treated fairly relative to upperclassmen? NO

I think Hyatt is a decent player and I hope Jones is the 3rd scoring option we DESPERATELY need. I am having doubts about Jones just based on how shockingly bad he has been on D. Steph Curry couldn't help this team if virtually every possession he was targeted and scored on.
 
This is a big joke right? This league is not good let alone the best. Why oh why
 
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Jones knows what is necessary to get PT. Is it worth short term pain to get him to be better on the defensive end? YES Is he being treated fairly relative to upperclassmen? NO

I think Hyatt is a decent player and I hope Jones is the 3rd scoring option we DESPERATELY need. I am having doubts about Jones just based on how shockingly bad he has been on D. Steph Curry couldn't help this team if virtually every possession he was targeted and scored on.

Jones D is a problem and I'm sure his lack of PT is Pike's way to get him to dig deeper on D.
 
To help the masses, this is not isolated to just RU vs DePaul, but a general sense of what we saw in 4 days of basketball.....and when you are the best league in College Basketball or at worse the best or 2nd best over an extended period of time of the last 3 years, the vibe from watching is the B1G kinda rested on itself......

What we saw was a lack of urgency across most of the games....I can only say with confidence that Nebraska and Indiana played with a sense of urgency....maybe because Indiana has a new coach and they had a strong home court, but the rest felt very "lax".

Michigan hosting Seton Hall never stepped up the intensity to match what SHU threw out....Providence just wanted it more than Wisconsin....and even though Michigan State was just better than an injury riddled Butler, it was not a situation where Sparty looked interested.

It was most noticeable last night at Xavier.....they never get to play Ohio State and the crowd was energized....OSU seemed liked when they stepped up the intensity, they missed layups, rushed shots and then it was too late.....much of what we saw last night with RU was a casual or very lax effort....it wasn't until DePaul hit shots late, that RU stepped up its intensity and focus.

It is a very long season....but I think the Big East absolutely had no margin for error....the Big East could be a little better than last year but when you are playing the B1G and beating a B1G team can make or break your NCAA resume, it showed over 4 games.

The Big East teams were hungrier, played harder, played with the urgency that they knew they absolutely had to have these head to head matchups.

I think the B1G teams know the league is a gauntlet and that they have to have something left in the tank for January and February.....20 league games is a monster when your league is balanced and solid from top to bottom.

I don't know how RU reacts for the 1st time really being considered a statement game for a DePaul, UMass....Clemson or Seton Hall etc.....but it is clear to me for RU, this is new territory as a game that matters on an opponent's schedule. Pike, Brandin Knight, Karl Hobbs etc have to start to ramp up the intensity and get Jaden Jones, Mawot Mag, Cliff and Paul, Caleb on the ball.....and RHJ and Baker have to understand what happened last year is last year.....teams are coming after RU now with a new amount of intensity......How does Pike respond....

And I actually think this carries over to our fanbase.....There is a lack of intensity at the RAC during these early games....you can say it's RU play that factors into that, but the RU fan base needs to push the reset button.....stop whining about what didn't happen and get back to being loud....I get the impression that a good amount of fans are a little entitled or arrogant and it comes across in the posts on the board.....like we are supposed to arrive and things will go our way......

I think the next 2 to 3 weeks will be very telling.....Clemson is very capable of winning at the RAC if the building isn't electric....or are we waiting for Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State etc to get to the RAC to turn it up......??
Great post!!
 
Not sure why people think the fans did not come out and are apathetic. The same base of fans that ALWAYS go to EVERY GAME have come out and we have added an extra 1-3 thousand fans per game. Of course some new fans have jumped on the bandwagon and will jump off just as quickly if we don't win.

We have not played well so far, but when we get on any type of run and/or get defensive stops, the RAC is really loud. Even 2 years ago, our fans have never gone crazy from the start to finish of games. (OK, the Seton Hall game, YES)

This is a message board where we are all passionate about Rutgers Basketball. Right at this point, things have not looked so good and we are 3-1. Can we at least give the coaches 10 games to figure out some rotations and put the best players on the court that will help us win?

Best of Luck,
Groz
 
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This is a big joke right? This league is not good let alone the best. Why oh why

I will ask what league is the best.....if you have an answer on which league is, you simply say it's the SEC, Big 12 or Big East or ACC.....

The point is you cannot say something isn't best or 2nd best without posting which league is the best.....I would be curious to hear what you think.....
 
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Jones knows what is necessary to get PT. Is it worth short term pain to get him to be better on the defensive end? YES Is he being treated fairly relative to upperclassmen? NO

I think Hyatt is a decent player and I hope Jones is the 3rd scoring option we DESPERATELY need. I am having doubts about Jones just based on how shockingly bad he has been on D. Steph Curry couldn't help this team if virtually every possession he was targeted and scored on.
I would take 10-15 Curry three pointers per game and be in a good position to win games.If Jones defense is so bad,then switch to a zone defense which should also reduce the excessive fouling.
 
Most bizarre take to a bad basketball team I have ever seen. I guess Cliff isn't hungry enough to explain why he can't pull down a defensive rebound against a bad DePaul team.
Head scratcher from hawk here.
 
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BREAKING: per NewJerseyHawk most big ten teams didn’t feel like trying to win their toughest game of the season to date.
 
We’re not that good. Yeah, we almost made it to the sweet 16 last year, but we were a 10 seed for a reason. We played a lot of ugly basketball last year, and yeah the players had to deal with a lot, but you don’t lose Myles Johnson and Jacob Young and get better without replacing them with at least equal talent. Guess what, we didn’t.
 
I will ask what league is the best.....if you have an answer on which league is, you simply say it's the SEC, Big 12 or Big East or ACC.....

The point is you cannot say something isn't best or 2nd best without posting which league is the best.....I would be curious to hear what you think.....
This year I would go with the big 12.
 
To help the masses, this is not isolated to just RU vs DePaul, but a general sense of what we saw in 4 days of basketball.....and when you are the best league in College Basketball or at worse the best or 2nd best over an extended period of time of the last 3 years, the vibe from watching is the B1G kinda rested on itself......

What we saw was a lack of urgency across most of the games....I can only say with confidence that Nebraska and Indiana played with a sense of urgency....maybe because Indiana has a new coach and they had a strong home court, but the rest felt very "lax".

Michigan hosting Seton Hall never stepped up the intensity to match what SHU threw out....Providence just wanted it more than Wisconsin....and even though Michigan State was just better than an injury riddled Butler, it was not a situation where Sparty looked interested.

It was most noticeable last night at Xavier.....they never get to play Ohio State and the crowd was energized....OSU seemed liked when they stepped up the intensity, they missed layups, rushed shots and then it was too late.....much of what we saw last night with RU was a casual or very lax effort....it wasn't until DePaul hit shots late, that RU stepped up its intensity and focus.

It is a very long season....but I think the Big East absolutely had no margin for error....the Big East could be a little better than last year but when you are playing the B1G and beating a B1G team can make or break your NCAA resume, it showed over 4 games.

The Big East teams were hungrier, played harder, played with the urgency that they knew they absolutely had to have these head to head matchups.

I think the B1G teams know the league is a gauntlet and that they have to have something left in the tank for January and February.....20 league games is a monster when your league is balanced and solid from top to bottom.

I don't know how RU reacts for the 1st time really being considered a statement game for a DePaul, UMass....Clemson or Seton Hall etc.....but it is clear to me for RU, this is new territory as a game that matters on an opponent's schedule. Pike, Brandin Knight, Karl Hobbs etc have to start to ramp up the intensity and get Jaden Jones, Mawot Mag, Cliff and Paul, Caleb on the ball.....and RHJ and Baker have to understand what happened last year is last year.....teams are coming after RU now with a new amount of intensity......How does Pike respond....

And I actually think this carries over to our fanbase.....There is a lack of intensity at the RAC during these early games....you can say it's RU play that factors into that, but the RU fan base needs to push the reset button.....stop whining about what didn't happen and get back to being loud....I get the impression that a good amount of fans are a little entitled or arrogant and it comes across in the posts on the board.....like we are supposed to arrive and things will go our way......

I think the next 2 to 3 weeks will be very telling.....Clemson is very capable of winning at the RAC if the building isn't electric....or are we waiting for Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State etc to get to the RAC to turn it up......??
All great points Hawk. As a Pike fan, I have to say, that I'm very concerned about the dearth of offensive sets. It appears we are dribbling waaaaaaaaaaay too much on the perimeter and letting the clock tick down and forcing shots from the outside. That's not running an offense. That's BS isolation.

We're not high post screening, flair screening, down screening, etc. enough to force defenses to change their game, and for our best players to get good looks. What say you?
 
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There is a problem. Our shots aren’t falling and our defense isn’t as tight as it once was. We are not as fast as we have been and are not driving to the hoops as much. Do we have the horses to do these things No matter how you look at recruiting the 2020 class had Cliff and three question marks but saw an upgrade with JJ. Miller ended being a one man class in 2021 and the two three stars we have from 2022 need reinforcements via the Juco route or portal. Hyatt was a great get and will improve as will JJ
And Miller.
 
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