There is a fairly good chance we finish at 1-29 this year. I'm not being negative, just realistic. There are no bad teams left on the schedule, including Bucknell, which is 5-2, and went 25-8 last year, having won the Patriot League ar 17-1. It will be very interesting to see how our AD handles this situation.
Good chance of finishing 1-29
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she will stay because they will claim next year will be better...of course it will be better, Tyler may be back although she may not...there are more players. When you only win a handful of games going 500 the next year is considered improvement but we all know the end game here. Its not going anywhere. There are no other Tylers or Coppers in the pipeline so after Tyler leaves its back to the basement.
Hobbs will keep her and the womens attendance and interest will continue to decline further and further, maybe after the 2019 season when even he cannot justify it he will make the move
Hobbs will keep her and the womens attendance and interest will continue to decline further and further, maybe after the 2019 season when even he cannot justify it he will make the move
I was impressed that 2,700 people showed up for the Duke game. But I agree BAC. Getting a new coach next year (the Princeton coach, the Seton Hall coach, GG, whoever) would give him or her a chance to start off fairly strong. Like Coach Pikiell with the men's team. If I were CVS, I would call it a day if I went 1-29.
I'm not a basketball coach but I thought that with Tyler, if she stays, and the addition of the three transfers, Stasha Carey, Ciani Cryor and Kathleen Fitzpatrick ( all good/great players) Rutgers will have a pretty good team next year. Am I missing something?
Not factually. The only concerning thing might be that without a very significant recruiting class in the coming years - and recruiting has been the issue - the future past next year would be questionable.
Otherwise, it is just the griping of a mix of folks, some just miserable with the results this year, and some miserable with any results that are not top 25, NCAA run worthy, which they have not been for a while.
I'm not suggesting it is "good news" but I'm pretty sure Seton Hall is not having a very good year, and Illinois and Wisconsin are - at best - inconsistent and very bad when they are bad. Meaning, no matter how dismal you may think of the team, there are games where we ought to be competitive - if we are not, then I'll join the chorus of thinking "wait to next year" is just too much.
Not gonna happen!!!! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Team looking great today
Team looking great today
Actually Cappie Pondexter was Courtside rooting and urging them on and they responded well.
Yeah, let's make you a Hall of Fame Coach, seems anyone can. lol
All kidding aside; HOF coaches can and do win, with less, than most other coaches. This is what most are not getting with the current situation at RU women's basketball. Her time has come and gone.
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The saddest thing about this season, (besides my previous post of feeling sad for everyone that is part of the team, including CVS) is that CVS can't look in the mirror and say enough is enough. Time to leave for the good of the kids the program and the fans.
I have been posting for a number of years of the slow decline of CVS.
You have to look past the winning records and the over blown NIT tournament championship.
CVS has been a bad game time coach for years. Her winning records have been achieved because of the amazing talent the rosters have had up to last year.
We consistently (not 100% of course) squeaked by good teams we should beat by double digits. How many mediocre teams did we beat instead of wipe out.
CVS complains about her inability to recruit given contracts and facilities. But just last year, CVS had a starting 5 that would be easily in the top ten in way of talent. I believe in the top 5.
I was a season holder for years just behind the bench. You get to know and talk a lot to the other fans that sit in your area. You get to really see the games and coaching up close.
We weren't the fans that would watch RU on TV w the announcers introducing "The Hall of Fme coach C Vivian Stringer". That part was understandable. But when she made her many coaching mistakes, the announcers would always say that ofcourse CVS knows what she is doing (because she is a H of F coach) So most fans that just watched the games on TV, got a distorted view of her.
In way of the season ticket holders I got to know, I would say that easily 90% of those fans were in total agreement with my comments on this post.
One thing to look at is the attendance stats. It is a joke that we pay CVS big bucks (even if her salary has gone down...but not nearly enough) given the attendance that on average couldn't fill up the Barn. (The original gym on College Ave) and that many of my fan friends also didn't believe that it was worth spending 30 dollars a ticket to watch CVS under utilize talented players year after year.
Please CVS, do the right thing.
And to see any posts that suggest at all, because things will be better next year. We should keep CVS. Is mind boggling!
You are just doing two things: (A) Putting off the inevitable. (B) Digging a bigger hole for the next coach to have to dig out of.
The saddest thing about this season, (besides my previous post of feeling sad for everyone that is part of the team, including CVS) is that CVS can't look in the mirror and say enough is enough. Time to leave for the good of the kids the program and the fans.
I have been posting for a number of years of the slow decline of CVS.
You have to look past the winning records and the over blown NIT tournament championship.
CVS has been a bad game time coach for years. Her winning records have been achieved because of the amazing talent the rosters have had up to last year.
We consistently (not 100% of course) squeaked by good teams we should beat by double digits. How many mediocre teams did we beat instead of wipe out.
CVS complains about her inability to recruit given contracts and facilities. But just last year, CVS had a starting 5 that would be easily in the top ten in way of talent. I believe in the top 5.
I was a season holder for years just behind the bench. You get to know and talk a lot to the other fans that sit in your area. You get to really see the games and coaching up close.
We weren't the fans that would watch RU on TV w the announcers introducing "The Hall of Fme coach C Vivian Stringer". That part was understandable. But when she made her many coaching mistakes, the announcers would always say that ofcourse CVS knows what she is doing (because she is a H of F coach) So most fans that just watched the games on TV, got a distorted view of her.
In way of the season ticket holders I got to know, I would say that easily 90% of those fans were in total agreement with my comments on this post.
One thing to look at is the attendance stats. It is a joke that we pay CVS big bucks (even if her salary has gone down...but not nearly enough) given the attendance that on average couldn't fill up the Barn. (The original gym on College Ave) and that many of my fan friends also didn't believe that it was worth spending 30 dollars a ticket to watch CVS under utilize talented players year after year.
Please CVS, do the right thing.
And to see any posts that suggest at all, because things will be better next year. We should keep CVS. Is mind boggling!
You are just doing two things: (A) Putting off the inevitable. (B) Digging a bigger hole for the next coach to have to dig out of.
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If you want CVS to get the wins and be the figurehead fine... but at least go out and find a young hotshot staff with somebody to be the coach in waiting. I'm guessing we dont have that, do we?
As Rizwran you can't keep her past this season this program is in free fall about to hit rock bottom and keeping her would set us back another 5 years
It looks like this season will be the last based on how the season ;looks so far and
forgetting about 1000 win mark that might not have much of a dent put in if season continues like this.
As for what the RU said, that I can agree with.
As for CVS coming back, I'll be sad if she doesn't , but understand why she wasn't brought back.
Also might be relived in a way because even I am starting to question if she still deserves to be brought back if this season continues like it is.
1000 victories would be a great accomplishment for Vivian and having it happen as the RU HC would be good for the school and WBB program, but 1000 wins won't set the record and the future of RU WBB must come first if this season stays a disaster.
forgetting about 1000 win mark that might not have much of a dent put in if season continues like this.
As for what the RU said, that I can agree with.
As for CVS coming back, I'll be sad if she doesn't , but understand why she wasn't brought back.
Also might be relived in a way because even I am starting to question if she still deserves to be brought back if this season continues like it is.
1000 victories would be a great accomplishment for Vivian and having it happen as the RU HC would be good for the school and WBB program, but 1000 wins won't set the record and the future of RU WBB must come first if this season stays a disaster.
Didn't she just sign another contract? She is here to reach the 1,000 milestone. Let's hope it happens sooner rather than later and she feels complete.
Ahhh, and to think I have endured thru over 35 years of what is Rutgers football,and MBB to a slightly lesser degree.
It's the RU fan's dilemma when one sport does well the other two fall off the chart.
When RU WBB was doing well , MBB wasn't and the FB program had one really good year in the 00s but after 06 was just average and never lived up to expectations.
Some RU fans took out their frustrations over MBB being bad and FB letting them down by bashing CVS and the WBB program every chance they got.
Now MBB is looking up while FB and WBB are really looking bad.
But forgetting about FB, WBB is down and bashing should be expected because of how bad RU's WBB W-L record is.
Usually I go after the bashers tooth and nail, but right now can't because of my wondering ( to myself )if the RU WBB program is becoming a losing one or if this season is just one that can't be explained but won't repeated and better times are ahead.
That is an improvement for Houston. They had reasonable success under the late Joe Curl who was there for 12 years until end-stage heart disease forced his resignation in 2010. After floundering (well, they sort of still are) they hired former Rutgers Assistant Coach Ron Hughey as head coach. Assistant Coaches include RU Hall of Famer Vickey Picott and former Texas star Tai Dillard.
Seasons like this extend far beyond the one bad year. Like in football, it makes recruiting very hard and also makes keeping recruits very hard. It blows my mind that top local players will know want to go to Seton Hall and St Johns over Rutgers. We used to compete with UConn and other national powers for players. This could just feed upon itself and cause us to get worse and worse classes.
The players that Rutgers would need to become again a national power are either not local nor likely to consider St. John's or Seton Hall. If we reach the situation where we are competing with those schools for recruits, just wrap it up.
