I routinely see lots of hate directed at these guys but they are both valuable pieces. Tonight they contributed 20 pts 15 rebounds and a few assists and steals. Yes shooting wasnt great, they had some bad turnovers and they both missed what turned out to be critical open lay ups. But they are also first time starters who are probably rushing things around the basket. I think that will fix itself as the season goes along. They both just need to understand their roles. Mag is very good posting up his defender and getting close shots. Hyatt is strong and can make outside shots and get rebounds in traffic. And lets face it, on a team lacking high powered offensive threats and Spencer playing tight again against quality opponents, without these guys who the hell is going to score some points? Do we expect MocConnell and Cliff to score 40?