If it's a talent issue

[higgins3]

Some of these posts sound crazy to me. This has been the happiest I've been about basketball since bob wenzel.

Enjoy it,man. Have a blast at the games. I am happy as well.

 

[higgins3]

40coaching,60 recruiting.

If you take what is a "great player these days", you are looking at a kid that can make a kid fall over defending him three times, a bunch of ohs and ahs from the crowd, and the offensive player takes an off balance jump shot and makes it. There is a basketball culture.

It takes a lot of coaching to realize all that dribbling you did, and the responses you get from it, was absolutely worthless, seeing that you missed five guys cutting, and great open looks. Oh wait, sometimes everyone is watching you and you are the emphasis of the team. It is a broadway show, it is not great basketball.

It takes a lot of coaching to get kids back to fundamentals,and the way you really win basketball games. The way that gets the RAC loud. The spaceship ignited.

I trust our coaches. We will see development. We will get there.

 

[RUChoppin]

Actually, forgot about Doorson/Diallo.

So, we'll see in 2018
Seniors: Laurent, Sanders (if he stays), Doorson, Diallo
Juniors: Thiam, Omoyuri, Bullock
Soph: Baker

...and 5 (or 6) spots to fill.

While we need PF (or two) to round out that group, that's not a bad start, with some upperclassman leadership. If we could get a strong class in 2018 to fill those spots, there should be some stability and existing leadership that the new players would be stepping into.

When Rice had his big freshman class come in, we also had 0 scholarship seniors and just 2 juniors (Johnson, Miller)... knowing what we know now about Rice's behavior during that first year-plus, Miller was already likely starting to tune him out.

 

[BillyC80]

You recruit to the way you coach. Unless you get your pick of 4 and 5 star players every year, you have to find the guys who will excel in your style of play. If you do that, then it's 50/50 coaching/recruiting.

 

[RutgHoops]

We should get better because players have been in the program for 18 months instead of 6 months. I see some of the same lamenting with the football team. The idea that in ONE off season a new HC can change and fix all the things that need to be changed and fixed: off season S+C, new offense, new defense, focus on rebounding (or in the case of football new tackling techniques), in season S+C etc, etc. is folly.

The other teams aren't standing around waiting. Chris Collins has been running the same program at Northwestern for 3 and 1/2 years. Fran McCaffrey at Iowa for 7 years. Pat Chambers at Penn State for 6 years. Those kids know what to do in the off season. They know the offense, the defense, etc. etc. Every practice is the same. The drills are the same. You know what to do and how to improve. At those schools it is more about the talent level. Here, today, it is about the talent level and learning EVERYTHING that is brand new. That takes some time.

There is some talent here and Coach P has brought in some really nice pieces. We'll get better because time passes, the players get good coaching and kids know what the heck to do.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We should get better because players have been in the program for 18 months instead of 6 months. I see some of the same lamenting with the football team. The idea that in ONE off season a new HC can change and fix all the things that need to be changed and fixed: off season S+C, new offense, new defense, focus on rebounding (or in the case of football new tackling techniques), in season S+C etc, etc. is folly.

The other teams aren't standing around waiting. Chris Collins has been running the same program at Northwestern for 3 and 1/2 years. Fran McCaffrey at Iowa for 7 years. Pat Chambers at Penn State for 6 years. Those kids know what to do in the off season. They know the offense, the defense, etc. etc. Every practice is the same. The drills are the same. You know what to do and how to improve. At those schools it is more about the talent level. Here, today, it is about the talent level and learning EVERYTHING that is brand new. That takes some time.

There is some talent here and Coach P has brought in some really nice pieces. We'll get better because time passes, the players get good coaching and kids know what the heck to do.

Thank goodness our coach doesn't spend time on twitter and worrying about what the media thinks. There is a lot for Pikiell to do.

 

[PaKnight]

I agree they had better athletes. The reason for the loss though was that Miami was clearly more comfortable and poised. They have been there, done that, before in a game of this magnitude. This was our first rodeo and it showed.

It is also easier to be confident if you are a better athlete.

 

[higgins3]

You recruit to the way you coach. Unless you get your pick of 4 and 5 star players every year, you have to find the guys who will excel in your style of play. If you do that, then it's 50/50 coaching/recruiting.

I am starting to see what kind of recruits Pikiell is looking for.