This year ooc we played 2 likely tourney teams in hall and st johns and lost both. Another on the road who won't make it in Miami and won. Ideally, you would maybe play 1-2 more games like this next year to give you a shot to beef it up. If you can go 4-1 or 3-2 in these games that would help.
Indiana is last team in according to Lunardi
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That's because the Big Ten is so strong this year. You can't always count on that, ask Nebraska last year. In fact it's almost certain to be worse next season just given historical and recruiting trends.
our non conference sos is a pathetic 325 by NETrankings
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/team-net-sheet?team=Rutgers
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/team-net-sheet?team=Rutgers
We don't need to face a gauntlet, we just need to NOT schedule teams like Maine. Schedule mostly 50-150 teams, a few 150-250 teams, and NO 250 or worse teams under any circumstances.
This rule of thumb is slightly less true with the NET instead of the RPI but it still applies. And they've said they still may adjust the NET so who knows.
http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-inflate-your-resume-how-texas.html
This rule of thumb is slightly less true with the NET instead of the RPI but it still applies. And they've said they still may adjust the NET so who knows.
http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-inflate-your-resume-how-texas.html
Unfortunately based on his public comments I don't think Pikiell has any appetite for a challenging non-conference slate. He was bemoaning this year's schedule even.
wrong...its the NET ranking that the NCAA selection committee is using ...our SOS overall is 91 and our non conference sos is 325. Not sure why everyone is so fascinated with KenPom
that is why Indiana and Nebraska are right there...do you notice why RU is lagging behind Illinois and PSU and Northwestern in all the ratings..its because of SOS and even in Ken Pom it is 287
scheduling counts....ask Nebraska..ask Penn State last year
Avoid Quadrant 4 games at all costs. They do almost nothing for you if you win and are obviously a disaster if you lose.
RU has 5 of them....and sigh they had to go to overtime to beat a terrible Columbia...Maine was really bad
RU had 1 Q1 team, 2 Q2, 2 Q3, and 5 Q4...that just is too many
Umass will be a Q3 and Fordham likely a Q4...SHU a Q1 if they are good
RU had 1 Q1 team, 2 Q2, 2 Q3, and 5 Q4...that just is too many
Umass will be a Q3 and Fordham likely a Q4...SHU a Q1 if they are good
Playing Fordham does absolutely zero for this program..they have to get off the schedule because they will never be a good program....I would say end the UMass thing as well
I dont know, was just assuming...hopefully not
PSU has a non conference schedule of 19
3 Q1, 1 Q2, 5 Q3, 2 Q4
Nebraska who did well OOC
2 Q1, 3 Q2, 1 Q3, 4 Q4
and you never know if a team is going to be good or not, you can know their vicinity, certainly its easier to peg the cupcakes of which ones are traditionally terrible
PSU has a non conference schedule of 19
3 Q1, 1 Q2, 5 Q3, 2 Q4
Nebraska who did well OOC
2 Q1, 3 Q2, 1 Q3, 4 Q4
and you never know if a team is going to be good or not, you can know their vicinity, certainly its easier to peg the cupcakes of which ones are traditionally terrible
You are right I would think there would be no worse feeling then having a real good team and missing out because you scheduled poorly. Like you said I think the Big is best conference top to bottom this year but that changes year to year.
People are forgetting one important thing. What is the universe of teams that won't hurt our SOS yet are willing to play at the RAC without a returning visit?
Not sure what the actual economics are, but my guess is we lose $50K or so by not playing one of these teams at the RAC.
Not sure what the actual economics are, but my guess is we lose $50K or so by not playing one of these teams at the RAC.
Stop complaining about this year’s OOC schedule. It was done for a reason. We’re a rebuilding team who needed some wins. We have 20 conference games. The B1G is a gauntlet. Last year was an anomaly. We will schedule accordingly moving forward
RU should look at CUSA for a game...Florida Atlantic, UAB, Texas San Antonio, Marshall
definitely a MAC school
Colgate
AAC school such as UConn, Temple, Memphis or Wichita State
definitely a MAC school
Colgate
AAC school such as UConn, Temple, Memphis or Wichita State
Those AAC schools will ask for a home and away. Maybe the CUSA ask for a 2 for 1.
Dartmouth, Cornell, Yale would all do a game probably without an away game.
So why then do we need to upgrade our schedule ? I know the league is up
but that like football is really way ahead of where our program is.
So if Rutgers were to win out and finish 1 and 1 in tourney for 18 and 14. (10 and 10) Wed be in? Lol. No we wouldn't.
Sorry. This new criteria just seems stupid.
no problem playing those schools on the road...why not...UConn, Temple, Wichita on the road..get er done....possible Q1 but definite Q2 games
I do NOT blame him
We play 23 out of 30 teams from the power five on our schedule....and HALF of them are on the road.
People need to step back and understand that our schedule...as everyone one else in the big ten ...plays a brutal schedule ...those extra two conference games add up
if the Big 10 peforms like they did in 2017-2018 OOC , those 20 games do not matter...where the conference ranks come January will be determined by what is does in November and December, its basically locked in from there
I understand that bac...there is no doubt you need to schedule smart ...strong enough that you get the rpi (or whatever they call the new ranking austsrem) you need from out of conference schedule without taking too much risk of having a lousy out of conference record by getting upset a couple of times along the way
You have to trust that most years the big ten as a whole will be a top three confrence and get their 6-7 NCAA teams bids as a result and the 2017-2018 is the abnomoly, one out of five season
I don't understand this OP.
How is 4-10, 13-12 Indiana even close to getting in?
How is 4-10, 13-12 Indiana even close to getting in?
Not to mention a fact that doesn't count anymore...lost 10 if last 11. Crazy.
Biggest news flash of that analysis.....wait for it.....
Rutgers NOT listed as a bad loss!!! That's solid improvement in eyes of so called experts
NET ranking of 55.
5-8 in Quadrant 1 game...this is a big criteria point for the selection committee
at Michigan State
Louisville
Marquette
Butler (N)
at Penn State
they have not lost a game outside a Q2 school..no bad losses
SOS of 35
If they beat Purdue tonight that would make 6 Q1 wins....go 3-2 the rest of the way which would include at least 2 more Q1 wins, and they will be right there
yes RU is a Q2 loss...now if RU beats them in Indiana, then that would be considered a Q3 loss and give them their only bad loss
Pike has to stop schedule these horrifc schools....there are people hired at certain schools to actually figure out rpi...well now NET schedules. RU is simply going to have to challenge themselves and win..if RU wins no OOC games and goes 10-10 in the Big 10 next year for a 18-12 record its going to hurt not having those OOC wins, conference only gets you so much, the selection committee specifically concentrates on OOC wins and in particular a road win out of conference of note
look no further than 4-10 Indiana this year, they are in the discussion because of who they played and who they beat..ditto for Nebraska
also Georgetown, Missouri, Notre Dame, Xavier, E Tenn St, and UNLV...brutal schedule but has paid off later in the year. It doesnt have to be that tough but RU has to eliminate the Maines and Columbias not to mention losses to Fordham
