Nobody is lining up to watch UConn football in the B1G, why not add Temple and get that Philly money... oh that's right because nobody cares and folks in Boston don't care about UConn Football just like people on the island could care less about Rutgers... so yeah you can add 15 mil subs but nobody is watching
Is the B10 considering adding Uconn ?(or B12) Article
- Thread starter BlockR
- Start date
Philly is already covered by PSU on BTN, growth is limited when you have too many members in one or more states, that is way there will never be a ACC network.
My opinion is just what it is but I do not believe that you are going to see a program added other than the two I mentioned. If all conferences go to 16 which I believe is the end goal with an 8 team playoff they cannot simply take Georgetown stick them in the B1G because they will get some eyes in DC... the SEC will also need to find new teams and I seriously doubt that NC state is on their radar just because they have a school in South Carolina. The PAC 12 does just fine with two schools in LA two in Washington two in Oregon... larger states land wise but population wise Washington and Oregon do not touch Florida or South Carolina in terms of population centers. Who knows I guess it is just fun banter. I will like I said put my money on UVA and UNC to BIG, Clemson and FSU to SEC and UConn and ND to ACC, BIG12 will take UCF, USF, Cincy, Houston, Memphis and SMU and PAC-12 will take Boise and BYU
Throwing my hat in the ring. F$U and Texas to B1G. Taking the two "name" teams from those two conferences will destabilize things. With the exeption of adding ND, will have the most positive financial impact on the BTN. Texas is no longer top dog in their state. Joining the B1G will help reestablish their program, and academically they are a fit.
An F$U add is for money/markets, and a kick in the ACC's sack.
AAU and contiguous states won't matter at this point IMHO.
An F$U add is for money/markets, and a kick in the ACC's sack.
AAU and contiguous states won't matter at this point IMHO.
Come on lol FSU?????? Texas... I am not sure FSU is an academic fit and Texas is ND with a conference
Rumor was FSU already asked in to te B1G and they passed..everything was hush hush of course...
I actually thought you were making a sarcastic comment, poking fun at FSU for whoring themselves out.
It was fairly well documented that FSU was unhappy with the ACC, and was putting out feelers to other conferences, specifically the B12. Heck, the FSU President published a letter to alumni (a few months before UMD and Rutgers were invited to the B10) in which he said:
1. The ACC is more basketball than it is football, and many of our alumni
view us as more football oriented than the ACC
2. The ACC is too North Carolina centric and the contract advantages
basketball and hence advantages the North Carolina schools
3. The Big 12 has some big football schools that match up with FSU
4. The Big 12 contract (which actually isn't signed yet) is rumored to be
$2.9M more per year than the ACC contract. We need this money to be
competitive.
view us as more football oriented than the ACC
2. The ACC is too North Carolina centric and the contract advantages
basketball and hence advantages the North Carolina schools
3. The Big 12 has some big football schools that match up with FSU
4. The Big 12 contract (which actually isn't signed yet) is rumored to be
$2.9M more per year than the ACC contract. We need this money to be
competitive.
Although he also listed advantages of staying in the ACC, it is clear that FSU was considering conference moves. If he was looking to jump to the B12 for a couple million more, then he certainly wouldn't have hesitated to jump to the B10 for tens of millions more.
No i wasn't being sarcastic..truthfully if UVa and UNC continue their arrogant ways I think a FSU/GT addition would bring more to the B1G and don't bring the Texas sized headaches those i mentioned seem to carry with them....too me FSU could become more dominant in Fla and nationwide under our flag and enrich everyone in many ways...if the AAU requirement can be overlooked for ND why not FSU......Clemson we could do without but thats another story..GT is intriguing. We have to think longterm.
AT this point, I think UConn only gets an invite somewhere if a few things beyond their control happen, none of which are likely but possible:
For the ACC:
For the ACC:
- Notre Dame joins for football and the ACC invites UConn as school #16, overriding BC's objections.
- ESPN gives up on the Longhorn Network and turns it in to a Big 12 Network. In order to maximize viewers, ESPN/Fox directs the Big 12 to head east to expand (not enough inventory with 10 and they decide that 14 is the number to make the network work). The Big 12 invites Cincinnati, Temple and Connecticut (and one other, perhaps BYU, merging in their network, perhaps a Florida school, perhaps Houston). The Philadelphia and Connecticut share of the NY market/viewers makes the network projections work. I don't see UConn going on their own, they would become another island in the Big 12. Of course, for this to happen, it would have to happen soon while carriage rates can still be charged for a cable network (that's probably coming to an end).
While I think FSU would certainly be interested in the B10, I don't think the B10 is interested in FSU. I think the barriers against FSU are geographic and cultural. The B10 likes to think of itself as a collection of elite universities, so I think there is a certain snobbishness that would work against FSU. That could be overlooked if it weren't for the geographic issue as well.
I also don't think that Ga Tech would be seriously considered for the B10, both for geographic reasons and because Ga Tech is a distant second to Georgia in their home state.
UNC and UVA are clearly the next targets for B10 expansion. But UConn could be a target if UNC or UVA doesn't work out. But that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
I don't think the B1G will expand unless they can land both BC and ND. BC gives you Boston and is great academically.
BC????? lands you Boston as much as RU lands you New York... it doesn't and Notre Dame wants to be top dog they will go to the ACC and be the top dog they will NEVER EVER EVER take a back seat to OSU and UM NEVER!!!!!
Last edited:
Okay we have officially went off the rails here.... Georgia Tech???? seriously? FSU?? umm not a chance in hell that they get in the B1G. Sec, Big 12 sure but not the B1G. Texas and Oklahoma are also not leaving the Big 12 for too many reasons to mention one of which being that Oklahoma and OK State are together till the end and Texas v Oklahoma is not ending. The B1G is not adding any schools that are not B1G.... only realistic choices are UVA and UNC and while some do not think it matters the footprint and the adjoining states do to the B1G as they do not want to be looked at like some hodgepodge of teams.... just like the SEC is selective and has every right the B1G can have who they want and they do not need anyone unless they bring academics and a huge alumni base to the table....
5 years from Now
SEC
adds 2
Clemeson
FSU
B1G
adds 2
Virginia
North Carolina
ACC
adds 4
Notre Dame
UConn
UCF/USF
Memphis/Temple/UMass
Big 12
adds 6
USF/USF
Tulsa/SMU
Tulane/Memphis
Houston
Cincinnati
BYU
Pac 12
adds 4
Boise
Colorado State
San Diego State
Fresno/Nevada/Mew Mexico
8 team playoff....
SEC
adds 2
Clemeson
FSU
B1G
adds 2
Virginia
North Carolina
ACC
adds 4
Notre Dame
UConn
UCF/USF
Memphis/Temple/UMass
Big 12
adds 6
USF/USF
Tulsa/SMU
Tulane/Memphis
Houston
Cincinnati
BYU
Pac 12
adds 4
Boise
Colorado State
San Diego State
Fresno/Nevada/Mew Mexico
8 team playoff....
Last edited:
You can't shine up a turd. UCONN is right where they belong. I wouldn't mind playing them OOC though.
This. Delaney is going where the population is headed. South and west.
BC ain't even Cuse....don't even compare our state school and following to Chestnut Hill U....Shoot does their stadium even hold ''not fill'' 44G...CFB in Baaaasten is dead...Hockey..now yer tawking..Unless it was a demand of ND's and brought them....powerball odds against it.....
I watched a Boston based nightly local TV sportscasts for the entire season this year and the only time BC got a mention is when they played Notre Dame in Fenway Park.
I'm sure there are geographical and cultural issues to work out with Florida State. I don't think the B1G would be FSU's top choice and I don't think FSU would be the B1G's top choice. That being said...Florida State is in the same neighborhood academically as Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas and not that far off Iowa. Geography aside, they're a strong candidate than most realize. It's a long shot, but I think Florida State would be in well before UConn, BC, Pitt, etc.
If the B1G wants to expand they will absolutely expand without having BC.
Texas and Oklahoma have only been in the same conference since 1996. Oklahoma-Nebraska is a much bigger rivalry, traditionally, than Oklahoma-Texas. Here's a good article on the Big 12 and Oklahoma: http://newsok.com/does-ou-want-the-big-12-to-survive/article/5472760 I'll quote the most relevant section:
You're right that the B1G can be selective. The SEC and the B1G are at the top of the mountain, a lot of programs would like to be in either conference and both can afford to be picky and not expand unless it makes absolute sense. The B1G certainly has a target list of schools, and I guarantee that it's longer than "UNC and UVa", even if those are at the top.
Exactly ! Being a Buckeye, I'd much rather have Rutgers in the BIG than UConn
Rutgers getting BIG membership was like hitting the lottery! If Rutgers was in the AAC with no hopes of ever joining the Power 5 we are talking "irrelevancy" with no end in sight. As a member of the BIG all it takes is the right coach and who knows what could happen? Look at U of Miami before Howard Schellenberger. They weren't so good until he came along. Miami and Rutgers are both in recruiting hotbeds so why not Rutgers?
Nice to finally get some love from our Midwestern cousins! I understand UCONN has the hoops, but no upside to their FB. No natural recruiting footprint; longtime losing program; terrible attendance (at an ugly stadium with the worst fans I have ever encountered). A few years of mediocrity under Edsel (including a fluke BCS game where they got destroyed and cost their athletic dept. a cool $2 million) is not evidence of upside.
you do realize that I agree and Rutgers means nothing in NYC... nothing people could care less about our football for the most part
