Kwe Parker decommits

[Local Shill]

I'm still in Eddie's corner but I'd chill with the word "miraculous" until we actually win more than 11 games in a season.

I get that he's bringing a butter knife into a gun fight but the fact is a week before signing day there's no one set to sign.

 

[ScarletLongIsland]

The decommit is a negative from a perception standpoint. However, after seeing what Nigel Johnson and Corey bring to the table, I am less concerned about the decommitment as both are going to impress from the atletic guard standpoint. I'd rather fill Kwe's scholarship with a pure shooter type of guard.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

People are kidding themselves saying this isn't a big deal or what we have could be better. We are ranked 288th in SI.com preseason poll .... that is 88 spots behind the second to worst BCS conference team and that would place us last in the CAA !! We need athletes, we need recruits with hype. We've gotten more than our share of "under the radar" guys over the last few years and well they have stayed under the radar.

Parker is an athletic freak and the style of play Eddie is trying to bring in needs guys like him to run up and down the court. We need something exciting to get the fans and potential recruits excited. We need some style, attitude, entertainment.

Doesn't sound like Parker left the door open for RU, but if it is .. we should be there with everything we got.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

There is no one player or two players that bring RU to an NCAA tournament, unless they are one and done type of players and Parker (nor Sanders) should not have been labeled as that type of player.....it's not fair to him to have that type of attachment to him as a prospect, it was not realistic at any point and he's not a top 10 -20 national player......the only thing that solves RU's woes is consistent recruiting over an extended period (3 to 5 years) to get to an NIT level first and out of the basement of the league as well. Parker like a lot of recruits helps with that process.

RU's process of recruiting has been inconsistent recruiting or having one class with 2 legitimate players and then not following it up with a legitimate starter or two in the next two or three classes. That's the pattern since Waters departed and it's why we are here today....I think Eddie is finally fixing that. Parker was a huge piece on the 2nd real class Eddie has had a chance to secure, but he will fix things not based on Parker and landing 3 non contributors, he needs to land 3 to 4 safe, solid recruits that can provide depth and develop the last round of depth to support the last 2 classes.

 

[ScarletLongIsland]

Let's just take a step back and let November play out

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

maybe short sighted by me....We are 9 days from the start of the season and right now I am not concerned about something that impacts us in 374 days.

If Sanders and Freeman are 80% of the players they are on paper AND Jordan changes what is expected of our players (Culture) good things will eventually happen. If it is more of the same this year then the decommit is a huge hit. I am not talking W and L

 

[ScarletLongIsland]

FWIW, Kwe is getting a bunch of crystal ball predictions on 247Sports in favor of Wake Forest today

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

Relax. Get over yourself. The kid a can go where ever he likes. Its not like he waited until March to pull out..... Um, that was not intentional....:)

Sorry, I'm in the minority these days where the word COMMITMENT means exactly that.
I'll agree..better now than later as we don't need somebody here who really wasn't in. Tired of being the safety school.

PS..don't make it personal. I can be just as much a dick as you if need be.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Sorry, I'm in the minority these days where the word COMMITMENT means exactly that.
I'll agree..better now than later as we don't need somebody here who really wasn't in. Tired of being the safety school.

PS..don't make it personal. I can be just as much a dick as you if need be.

Players are the pawns. yes they get educations, but tons of $ gets exchanged because of them. The decision that they make now is huge. Having to sit a full year to change is big once you get started.

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

Players are the pawns. yes they get educations, but tons of $ gets exchanged because of them. The decision that they make now is huge. Having to sit a full year to change is big once you get started.

yeah. I get that. Then just don't commit until you are 100% sure or the clock times out and you have to. Or fake a hardship thing as that has worked nearly 100% of the time when LEAVING Rutgers (1st half of last sentence in jest)

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

yeah. I get that. Then just don't commit until you are 100% sure or the clock times out and you have to. Or fake a hardship thing as that has worked nearly 100% of the time when LEAVING Rutgers (1st half of last sentence in jest)

Don't the players have to commit out of fear the spot gets taken?

 

[BKIn118]

Not really going out on a limb to say I don't think he has a change of heart and comes back into the fold

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Our priorities for this class remain the same

PF
SG

I would not mind holding two ships to the following year since we only have one senior the next year (Freeman) and would like three ships to offer next fall...especially if Eddie shows on the court progress....

 

[MADHAT1]

It's bad news and hurts, but it is what it is ( my opinion):
a kid having second thoughts about going to a losing program and deciding not to take a chance he can help it get better if he goes there.

This isn't on Jordan or any of his staff, it's the commitment to winning that recruits aren't seeing the RU administration giving their MBB program that makes some recruits shy away from RU and makes recruiting hard when other programs can point that out.

 

[PhilaPhans]

Scorer SG, Shooter SG, SF, PF, C

Corey is the only definite right now as a frosh. I really really wish that Freeman was a frosh. I'm actually excited to see a couple others like Laurent and a healthy Diallo, but now there's gotta be a big push for recruiting.

Parker's a big loss, because we're still looking for that big time backcourt partner for Corey.

 

[knights1212]

It would be ironic if Parker switches to Wake Forest and we beat them at the RAC in the ACC-Big 10 Challenge just after Thanksgiving.

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

Don't the players have to commit out of fear the spot gets taken?

the whole system sucks. Like I said, folks shouldn't complain when schools walk away cause somebody better came along. Works both ways then.

And why I no longer get excited for either sport when a player makes a so-called commitment. Signing is all that matters. Schools can become like the airlines and overbook the flight based on likely "take rates".

 

[FrankZ]

Ruh-roh

 

[NickKnight 1]

#FireFlood

Really that makes no sense, Fire Schiano. :smiley:

 

[RU at the shore]

The problem Hawk, is that we are now 1 players less than the 3-4 you say we need.

Cant spin this one well, it hurts. Hope we have a plan B. Sometimes can be just as good.

I'd like to see us go after a new SG, SF, PF and 5th year Big for depth/class balance

 

[ScarletLongIsland]

Right now, your backcourt for next year has Sanders, Williams, Nigel Johnson and Goode. I wouldn't mind adding the JUCO Niem Stevenson for next year.

 

[MADHAT1]

Verbal committing should be made a little harder to walk away from, but the recruit can decommit if he's willing to pay the price.
Take way the redshirt year from any recruit that commits to a school and backs out before LOI day.
Make it that once a recruit commits he can't take official visits to other schools and other schools can't contact that recruit without permission from the school he committed to.
Also kids can't commit till their senior year in HS starts.

Early committing was supposed to keep recruits from being bombarded with offers f they had a school they wanted to commit to, but it seems many kids use that as a safety value and continue to look at schools to go to after supposedly making their choice.

I also think if the HC leaves, players should be able to leave without having to sit a year because of transferring.

 

[RutgHoops]

Verbal committing should be made a little harder to walk away from, but the recruit can decommit if he's willing to pay the price.
Take way the redshirt year from any recruit that commits to a school and backs out before LOI day.
Make it that once a recruit commits he can't take official visits to other schools and other schools can't contact that recruit without permission from the school he committed to.
Also kids can't commit till their senior year in HS starts.

Early committing was supposed to keep recruits from being bombarded with offers f they had a school they wanted to commit to, but it seems many kids use that as a safety value and continue to look at schools to go to after supposedly making their choice.

I also think if the HC leaves, players should be able to leave without having to sit a year because of transferring.

Any penalty if the school backs off after a kid commits?

Ted Field for football and Kejuan Johnson for hoops come to mind.

 

[MADHAT1]

Any penalty if the school backs off after a kid commits?

Ted Field for football and Kejuan Johnson for hoops come to mind.

Good point.
If schools accepts a commit both the school and kid committing are tied to each other.
Both would have penalties if backed off.
Recruits penalties I stated, school loses a scholarship in next years class for every kid that has offer pulled after he commits,. Unless that recruit visited another school after committing without permission or a character and/or academic problem, not known before accepting kids verbal pops up.
I beleive Ted Field never committed , just said he was interested in RU
Didn't Kejuan Johnson ask for a release from his LOI because of academic problems
and that's why he isn't on the RU MBB team

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Right now, your backcourt for next year has Sanders, Williams, Nigel Johnson and Goode. I wouldn't mind adding the JUCO Niem Stevenson for next year.

 

[jagsfor07]

It would be ironic if Parker switches to Wake Forest and we beat them at the RAC in the ACC-Big 10 Challenge just after Thanksgiving.

Not likely because Wake isn't recruiting Parker. Even if Wake did want Parker, they don't have a spot for him.

There is a reason why Parker dropped like a rock in the rankings.

Sounds good for you guys that the transfer from K-State appears to be pretty good.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Not likely because Wake isn't recruiting Parker. Even if Wake did want Parker, they don't have a spot for him.

There is a reason why Parker dropped like a rock in the rankings.

Sounds good for you guys that the transfer from K-State appears to be pretty good.

I have ZERO inside knowledge....but, is it possible that Parker experienced some culture shock during his New Jersey Visit ?

I know he is from High Point, NC....I know High Point very well. I have about 8 uncles/aunts and 20 or so cousins from there, I have spent a good amount of time visiting. It's a shock going from High Point, NC to New Jersey,.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Like some others on here, the perception of losing Kwe is worse to me than losing the player. Two high-flying 4 star guards certainly had an excitement to it, but they are also are two undersized guards who can't shoot.

Still, he was part of the puzzle and the more talented parts, the more likely we build something.

I know he and Sanders are friends and I hope Corey is still on board. Our past experience with highly-touted players is not good as most of them transfer out (Dahntey, Billet, Rosario, Echinique, and even Carter).

I'm Trying to be positive here but I think many of the positive posters have not been around for the entire last 25 years where we have just spin our wheels (at best)... I'm hopeful, but I don't see anything different yet.

 

[WGLTAUD]

Nigel Johnson is probably the best player on the team right now....but losing Kwe still hurts in my opinion. I think he's a guy who would have added excitement to the program, and he's a guy who would have helped fill the stands.

I still think we are headed in the right direction, but definitely disappointed that he chose to commit and then pull the commitment.

 

[treauRU]

Like some others on here, the perception of losing Kwe is worse to me than losing the player. Two high-flying 4 star guards certainly had an excitement to it, but they are also are two undersized guards who can't shoot.

Still, he was part of the puzzle and the more talented parts, the more likely we build something.

I know he and Sanders are friends and I hope Corey is still on board. Our past experience with highly-touted players is not good as most of them transfer out (Dahntey, Billet, Rosario, Echinique, and even Carter).

I'm Trying to be positive here but I think many of the positive posters have not been around for the entire last 25 years where we have just spin our wheels (at best)... I'm hopeful, but I don't see anything different yet.

Im in since the year before the Littlepage era began. Im positive because I know we have never had a player come in as good as Sanders is. Im not talking stars. Im talking best player. At the point gaurd position at that. Players will see him. As long as our bigs finish the dump offs and alleys, other players will be able to envision themselves here.
It is a process.
I really dont see why so many are surprised. In particular, the veterans here.
IT WAS A VERBALL!!! Not a transfer.
Lets see who actually commits in April.
In the mean time the season is about to begin. Im excited.
Kwe seems to be a nice young man. I wish him well. Go RU!!

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

I no longer feel anything. I just go to the games, gag down a Premio sausage , and then I go home.[eyeroll]

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We could use a PG. We have 1 on the roster. They arent easy to find.

 

[MadRU]

FIG, can Nigel Johnson also play point next year?

 

[bscharf]

It happens in every major sport at every major school. Does it suck? Absolutely. Should the process be changed? I have no idea.

We are talking about 17 year old kids making a decision that they think is best for them without knowing their situation. Hypothetically, he may have a sick family member and wants to be close to home. During his visit he may have had second thoughts on fitting in with the teammates or about the school in general. Bottom line is we have no clue.

Also-- back in June/July we all kept saying on here "what is he waiting for?". Can't say there weren't some warning signs that he wasn't totally sold on coming.

I get it. It sucks. The thought of a Sanders/Parker backcourt was incredible. I have faith in EJ and Shoes. They have plenty of time to land another impact player.

 

[ImBadRU]

Need shooters.

 

[higgins3]

So pretty much what happens is Parker got a free OSU ticket and then decomitted?Makes sense.

A commitment means very little these days. Part of the problem is that these kids are given star status when they are 17 years old.

Parker was not a complete player, still though, this sucks.

It sucks because it was a waste of resources-time and money.

I am fine with our guards for next year. Still Coach Jordan now has to find some players. How does he find players?He must win this year and he must sell Corey Sanders heavily.

I wouldn't mind a player like Aaren Smith or Issa Thiam. We need a sg and a pf. Coach Jordan now will need to coach and recruit at the same time.

 

[higgins3]

Our priorities for this class remain the same

PF
SG

I would not mind holding two ships to the following year since we only have one senior the next year (Freeman) and would like three ships to offer next fall...especially if Eddie shows on the court progress....

Absolutely Everywhere else we are okay.

Diallo has to show decent potential this year. As a freshman,he has time. But we will need him to be a decent player by next year. I am fine with Foreman and Laurent at the wing.

 

[treauRU]

I think Coach would like to add a play maker at the wing position. Laurent and Foreman are finishers for the most part. I believe he will end up with a scorer, volume shooter.
All the reports we are seeing has him recruiting 1 thru 4s.
To me it does not matter as long as the ships are filled with players who will contribute consistently. Parker is not a loss because he did not sign anything. I think we play well enough to entice a better overall class than this year. But, that means not to expect anyone other than maybe Thiam to sign in November.

 

[MadRU]

Need a 3 also. Foreman is not a pure 3, Laurent is the only real 3 and he is not a pure shooter from that spot either. We need another outside threat or two on this team. Thiam has potential.

 

[knights1212]

For this season Omari Grier will probably play some minutes too at SF/Wing when we play 3 guards at a time. However we definitely can use another SF for next year. I actually hope we get Thiam and 2 other guys for next year. That would leave us with one extra for next year plus one from Freeman when he graduates. Also we often lose someone to transfer most years. I hate to only have 10 or 11 scholarship players because of illness or injuries. Last year several games we only had 9 scholarship guys available.