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LOL at Ronda rousey

People thought she could beat Floyd? That would be funny but human physiology makes that almost impossible.
 
I agree not sure why she would treat the preacher's daughter in that fashion.

Came across as the bully only to wind up getting knocked out.

Even in victory Holly remained humble.

Lesson learned, hopefully there's a rematch..

P.S. Holly is really a match-up nitemare for Rhonda which would probably result in the same ending.
 
A question for UFC fans. I don't know much about the sport, but watched the knockout. After Rousey was on the mat, Holm was hitting her in the head. At least that is what it looked like at first. But upon a closer look, her hand wasn't hitting her head, but her fingers were raking Rousey's face on the upswing. Also, her hand was open.

What are the rules about hitting a person who is down?
 
A question for UFC fans. I don't know much about the sport, but watched the knockout. After Rousey was on the mat, Holm was hitting her in the head. At least that is what it looked like at first. But upon a closer look, her hand wasn't hitting her head, but her fingers were raking Rousey's face on the upswing. Also, her hand was open.

What are the rules about hitting a person who is down?

I haven't seen the replay yet, but there are no rules for hitting a person who is down, per se. You are generally permitted to continue striking until the ref calls the fight.
 
It's a lot like Tyson, in my opinion. Rousey became more celebrity than fighter, with all the time commitments that go with that, taking away from training and maintaining the eye of the tiger. She's also a bully who wins through reputation and intimidation before even getting in the ring/octagon. Finally got in there with someone who wasn't intimidated. I'm not shocked. I had a feeling this was coming. Just a matter of time.
 
I think it's much more of a match-up problem, rather than she took her eye off the ball, or was less than 100% motivated.

She hasn't faced a serious striker in her career. The book on RR is if anyone can pepper her with strikes and keep the action off the mat, they had a puncher's chance. If that fight happens 10x, it's probably 5-5 due to the styles.

Ronda get sucked into a style she isn't very good at. This chick is a boxer by training. From what I've read, she tagged her enough times to throw RR off her game. Then she caught her with a kick to the head. That can happen to anyone.

I like RR, so I'm not sitting here all happy she lost. If she is the athlete most think she is, she will refocus and address her weaknesses. We all know Dana White will give her every opportunity to get the title back. And I'd hate to be the next person she fights. Odds are, she is going to snap their arm off their body.
 
I think it's much more of a match-up problem, rather than she took her eye off the ball, or was less than 100% motivated.

She hasn't faced a serious striker in her career. The book on RR is if anyone can pepper her with strikes and keep the action off the mat, they had a puncher's chance. If that fight happens 10x, it's probably 5-5 due to the styles.

Ronda get sucked into a style she isn't very good at. This chick is a boxer by training. From what I've read, she tagged her enough times to throw RR off her game. Then she caught her with a kick to the head. That can happen to anyone.

I like RR, so I'm not sitting here all happy she lost. If she is the athlete most think she is, she will refocus and address her weaknesses. We all know Dana White will give her every opportunity to get the title back. And I'd hate to be the next person she fights. Odds are, she is going to snap their arm off their body.

Very fair analysis, and I agree. I still think she's not as focused as she once was. With some other fighters' styles, though, it hasn't mattered because Rousey is very talented. Here, however, as you rightly point out, she faced a striker who she couldn't deal with. In fact, she was dominated.
 
I think it's much more of a match-up problem, rather than she took her eye off the ball, or was less than 100% motivated.

She hasn't faced a serious striker in her career. The book on RR is if anyone can pepper her with strikes and keep the action off the mat, they had a puncher's chance. If that fight happens 10x, it's probably 5-5 due to the styles.

Ronda get sucked into a style she isn't very good at. This chick is a boxer by training. From what I've read, she tagged her enough times to throw RR off her game. Then she caught her with a kick to the head. That can happen to anyone.

I like RR, so I'm not sitting here all happy she lost. If she is the athlete most think she is, she will refocus and address her weaknesses. We all know Dana White will give her every opportunity to get the title back. And I'd hate to be the next person she fights. Odds are, she is going to snap their arm off their body.

Did you watch the fight?

She didn't "catch" her with a kick to the head. Holm was destroying Rousey the entire fight. The reason she was able to kick her in the head so cleanly was because Rousey was already out of it from all the punches to the face she took (first round and second round).

Rousey looked like she had been through a war. Holm looked like she just got done some light exercise.

edited to add: I do agree it was a match up problem though. I think Rousey tried to box a pure boxer.
 
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Did you watch the fight?

She didn't "catch" her with a kick to the head. Holm was destroying Rousey the entire fight. The reason she was able to kick her in the head so cleanly was because Rousey was already out of it from all the punches to the face she took (first round and second round).

Rousey looked like she had been through a war. Holm looked like she just got done some light exercise.

edited to add: I do agree it was a match up problem though. I think Rousey tried to box a pure boxer.

I did not. But I've spoken to a buddy who I trust and used to train with and read a lot of analysis.

By "caught", I don't mean luck. I mean, she set her up and caught her. She delivered the kick on target. We say "caught."

And I thought I acknowledged that she was "peppering" her with strikes leading up to the kick? I'm not suggesting HH didn't dominate the fight.

i don't care who looked like what. It's a bad match-up for RR. That said, if they fight the fight again, and RR changes her strategy and converts on a throw or a shot and gets her to the mat, she'll break her arm off her body.

This is the beauty of sport. Match-ups matter.
 
I did not. But I've spoken to a buddy who I trust and used to train with and read a lot of analysis.

By "caught", I don't mean luck. I mean, she set her up and caught her. She delivered the kick on target. We say "caught."

And I thought I acknowledged that she was "peppering" her with strikes leading up to the kick? I'm not suggesting HH didn't dominate the fight.

i don't care who looked like what. It's a bad match-up for RR. That said, if they fight the fight again, and RR changes her strategy and converts on a throw or a shot and gets her to the mat, she'll break her arm off her body.

This is the beauty of sport. Match-ups matter.
But that already happened.

Ronda had Holly in the clinch multiple times.
Ronda even had HH's hip three times and failed to toss her 2 out of the 3. The third time Holm actually took her down.
Ronda also had Holm's arm at one point, and Holm slipped out.

Holly Holm beat Ronda in every facet of MMA last night. She is the better fighter.
 
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I think Ronda got a little too Hollywood. She looked sloppy. Holly also looked on point and her striking/footwork was the best I've ever seen by a female. Her hands were incredibly fast and heavy. Ronda will avoid standing up next time, but Holly proved she can grapple too.
 
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Ronda got outclassed during every single second of the fight, and looked downright clueless at times. She tried to stand in front of a boxer and she can't even throw a proper punch, which is baffling considering she has spent a great deal of this year focusing on boxing. I'm glad she was exposed and lit up. UFC is in trouble, especially if Connor loses to Aldo.
 
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I think boxing and UFC (or whatever it's called) are horrible, degrading, senseless sports that ought to be banned worldwide.

(But until they are, I'm getting me some popcorn and pulling up a seat.)
 
I did not. But I've spoken to a buddy who I trust and used to train with and read a lot of analysis.

By "caught", I don't mean luck. I mean, she set her up and caught her. She delivered the kick on target. We say "caught."

And I thought I acknowledged that she was "peppering" her with strikes leading up to the kick? I'm not suggesting HH didn't dominate the fight.

i don't care who looked like what. It's a bad match-up for RR. That said, if they fight the fight again, and RR changes her strategy and converts on a throw or a shot and gets her to the mat, she'll break her arm off her body.

This is the beauty of sport. Match-ups matter.
She got Holm to the mat in this fight and couldn't do anything with it. Holm stylistically is just a nightmare for her and she has terrible coaching/cornering compared to Holly who has the best in MMA.
 
That was a beatdown of epic proportions, ESPECIALLY when you consider the "lofty" status and achievements, prior to last night, of the bitch who walked away from tapping gloves.
 
Will Rousey have the courage to look for a Giant Money Re Match? As a former Judo champ, did she get out of her game, OR did Holm Not allow her to get to her strength? Rousey's mom will insist on a new trainer, I'm sure.
 
Got KTFO tonight. Can we stop the non sense about her being able to beat up Floyd now?


I could beat up Floyd. he's a midget who's main skill is throwing a few pitter pat jabs then runs

And the combined MMA knowledge of many who
Ronda got outclassed during every single second of the fight, and looked downright clueless at times. She tried to stand in front of a boxer and she can't even throw a proper punch, which is baffling considering she has spent a great deal of this year focusing on boxing. I'm glad she was exposed and lit up. UFC is in trouble, especially if Connor loses to Aldo.


Why? The other main fight on the Dec 12 card of Rockhold and Weidman should be awesome. The cause also drive me crazy. The. UFC rode her popularity. They move on w other good female fighters like Holm, Paige Van Zant and Juliana Pena.

As far as the men, go McGregfor is a joke Aldo is going to kill him. They are pumping him up even though his ground game is pathetic because he loves to yap. And like Rhonda he's allowing his fame to get in the way of his craft. There isn't one place he's better than Jose but somehow he's superior because he's good at Promos.

The people,who love to talk about MMA and think it's all about Rhonda and Connor are not MMA fans. They are fans of a spectacle. Jon Jones will be back and that will be a huge fight as well
 
Matty I stopped reading when you said you can beat up mayweather. LMAO ok I actually read the whole thing and you obviously never saw Floyd fight if you think he just jabs. Her was a big puncher until he started having trouble with his hands and then he started throwing straight right hands that stop opponents in their tracks. Believe it or not Floyd hits hard. That's why bigger opponents don't rush in on the so called soft puncher
 
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Was hearing on Friday how Rousey was not just the best woman UFC fighter of our time - but the best athlete in any sport....ever - and we would never see anything like her again...

i guess, not so much.

Watching the replay - clearly Holm had a plan and stuck to it.... even when she had Rousey in a take-down, she let her up and kept fighting at distance (to her strength).... good for her...
 
Maybe i'm sexist but I get no enjoyment out of watching females really fight. Men fight, sure. But not women. Unless it's something fake like mud wrestling.
 
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I could beat up Floyd. he's a midget who's main skill is throwing a few pitter pat jabs then runs

And the combined MMA knowledge of many who



Why? The other main fight on the Dec 12 card of Rockhold and Weidman should be awesome. The cause also drive me crazy. The. UFC rode her popularity. They move on w other good female fighters like Holm, Paige Van Zant and Juliana Pena.

As far as the men, go McGregfor is a joke Aldo is going to kill him. They are pumping him up even though his ground game is pathetic because he loves to yap. And like Rhonda he's allowing his fame to get in the way of his craft. There isn't one place he's better than Jose but somehow he's superior because he's good at Promos.

The people,who love to talk about MMA and think it's all about Rhonda and Connor are not MMA fans. They are fans of a spectacle. Jon Jones will be back and that will be a huge fight as well

194 should do a good buyrate, as should a Jon Jones return, but he's never been a big PPV draw (with the exception of the DC fight). They have done a whole lot of lackluster PPVs in terms of buyrates, and haven't been able to replace GSP, Lesnar, or Silva to draw money. Their buyrates are falling flat these last few years, and they need star power.
 
Greatest female Athlete in last 50 years :

carli-lloyd-800.jpg
 
Will Rousey have the courage to look for a Giant Money Re Match? As a former Judo champ, did she get out of her game, OR did Holm Not allow her to get to her strength? Rousey's mom will insist on a new trainer, I'm sure.

Both. She tried to box a boxer at a distance, and looked foolish, and she went for a takedown, I believe twice, and was stiffled both times.
 
I'm glad RR lost (to a better fighter btw, that was clear throughout the match). She is so over hyped it was getting annoying. Is she tuff, sure a tough girl amongst a very small pool of female fighters. The hype machine had her competing with Dillishaw, Edgar, Faber ... Hell any good HS wrestler would throw her around. Sorry facts hurt for some... Go Holmes!
 
I'm glad RR lost (to a better fighter btw, that was clear throughout the match). She is so over hyped it was getting annoying. Is she tuff, sure a tough girl amongst a very small pool of female fighters. The hype machine had her competing with Dillishaw, Edgar, Faber ... Hell any good HS wrestler would throw her around. Sorry facts hurt for some... Go Holmes!
Who's Holmes? Or did you mean Holm?
 
Always nice to see jiujitsu/judo getting silenced..and as far as the "match ups" argument, or Rousey would "break her arm next time" - don't think so. She was outclassed . Holmes would have still beaten her if she just boxed.
 
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