Midwestern Columnist not fan of DC B1G tourney

[bac2therac]

It should be very easy. You dont think UMBC will mind getting paid and having team play Maryland?

when are you scheduling the game...some of the conference tournaments are not early in the midmajors

not to mention schools risk damaging their rpi with an upset loss or just because the SOS will drop. Not worth it

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

It's tough but MSG trumps everything and having attended an ACC tournament game many years ago at the Capital Centre or whatever it was and the BE tournament, the venue has everything to do with the attendance etc.

The best thing the Pac 12 did, was move their tournament out of Staples Center to Las Vegas....fans have a reason to travel to Vegas for other things beyond basketball.

Washington DC while nice as a tourist attraction, isn't NYC....The B1G is better off negotiating Barclay Center or MSG as a rotation with maybe Chicago...Indianapolis is a nice Midwestern City, but there is no reason to visit their, unless you are a true diehard of the basketball tournament,

I also know that after many years of avoiding MSG, the regionals at MSG have ticket prices that are very, very high,.....it would be 1/3rd of those prices at Prudential Center or Barclays....it's because it's MSG that those tickets and prices will be very high.

I don't think next years attendance or lack thereof for RU should be held against RU fans at this stage....how many fans are dedicating themselves for 4 straight trips into NYC for that many days in a row at the cost?? Probably a good investment to scalp, but that's what the secondary market has done to prices for MSG.

 

[ScarletDave]

I don't think next years attendance or lack thereof for RU should be held against RU fans at this stage....how many fans are dedicating themselves for 4 straight trips into NYC for that many days in a row at the cost?? Probably a good investment to scalp, but that's what the secondary market has done to prices for MSG.

Not so fast - in 2014 the NCAA regional was in MSG for the first time in I think 50 years ... the Elite 8 match was UConn vs. B1G champs Michigan State, as best a matchup as the Garden could have asked for I think, and I was able to scalp 3 tickets for $50 bucks each. They weren't bad seats either. So be careful

 

[Friend of 112]

It's MSG or bust for NYC B1G games.
Prudential has an uncomfortable situation around Newark Penn Station and little to offer around the arena for people planning on a several days trips .
Barclays is a PITA to get to, and seems like the real booby prize vs. a week early at MSG.

 

[Friend of 112]

Not so fast - in 2014 the NCAA regional was in MSG for the first time in I think 50 years ... the Elite 8 match was UConn vs. B1G champs Michigan State, as best a matchup as the Garden could have asked for I think, and I was able to scalp 3 tickets for $50 bucks each. They weren't bad seats either. So be careful

If Virginia won on Friday night, that $50 tickets you lucked into would have cost several times more. The Garden that Friday night seemed like 75% UVA fans - meaning a much larger last minute ticket dump available.

 

[srru86]

Speaking of Cranky Columnists
Dan Shaughnessy in the Boston Globe
We’re simply not part of the Big Dance, and we’re OK with that
Last we heard from Dan on this board he was dumbfounded to find out Georgia fans were more interested in the UGa Dawgs Spring game than the fact the Celtics were in town to play whatever the pro hoops team is called down there in the NBA playoffs.

 

[RUfinal4]

I guess the Big East is unwilling to work with the B10 but if they were they probably could share MSG over a 7 to 10 day period with the crew swapping out the floors for each conference.

Saturday - B10 11-14 play
Sunday - B10 round of 12 games (4 games)
Monday - off day
Tuesday - BE 7-10 play
Wednesday - BE quarterfinals
Thursday - B10 quarterfinals
Friday - BE semifinals
Saturday - B10 semifinals (daytime 12pm till 5pm), BE final (night - 8pm)
Sunday - B10 final

With the above:
B10 teams playing the 1st weekend can go home for 3 days if they make the quarters
BE - tourney is extended 1 day to allow B10 to have quarters on Thursday. BE still has semis and finals on Fri and Sat.

I saw an article that for the Staples center they can convert from Hockey to basketball in about 90 minutes. Considering they probably can keep most of the floor the same and just swap out sections for advertisers and conference names / logos it may be a 1 hour job with a team.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

you don't want college athletes and fans for 9 days in NYC

 

[RUfinal4]

you don't want college athletes and fans for 9 days in NYC

it won't be 9 days unless a lower seeded team )11th-14th) miraculously makes the championship game.

Plus they have a 3 day break to go home for classes before coming back.

For the BE it is Wed - Thru Sat (4 days)

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Doesn't MSG own the new nassau Colosieum

 

[Wolv RU]

Speaking of Cranky Columnists
Dan Shaughnessy in the Boston Globe
We’re simply not part of the Big Dance, and we’re OK with that
Last we heard from Dan on this board he was dumbfounded to find out Georgia fans were more interested in the UGa Dawgs Spring game than the fact the Celtics were in town to play whatever the pro hoops team is called down there in the NBA playoffs.

Wow that article was really something. Author is just another one of those all too common in the media that seeks to get a rise out of an audience in an effort to get page views.

 

[CrazyfoRU]

I wish we had an old Big East to play in and living down in the DC area true MD hoops fans are still not accepting the fact that they are no longer in the gem of basketball conferences the ACC. I came to a few Twerps games before the switch over and they were way more entertaining than now.

 

[BoroKnight]

Who would want to hold the tournament in the Midwest??? Indianapolis is like 6 buildings and a stadium surrounded by sod farms. They'd probably be better off holding it at the Prudential Center. At least there's things to do within a short train ride.

Really, really hoping you are being sarcastic. The arena in Indy would likely violate fire laws, especially if IU or Purdue made a deep run. You put it where people care about BASKETBALL, not "things to do within a short train ride." Simpleton.

I HATE the way college sports has become. Yes, I know we benefited from it more than anybody, and deserved it less than anybody, but Big Ten screams Midwest, and there's nothing anyone can do to change that. Rutgers and Maryland could meet in the Big Ten final in every sport with a conference tournament five years straight, and Big Ten would still scream Midwest.

That being said, the writer is just plain whining. He is totally right about D.C. But New York? Big Ten alums working in Manhattan alone could probably fill MSG. And he really has a problem admitting Penn State? That school fits the Big Ten profile as well as anyone in the nation that wasn't already in it. Nebraska? Not that far behind. Sure, I can see the Rutgers-Maryland complaining. I totally get that.

But when this clown's alma mater gets its Big Ten check after the next rights negotiations, I hope they give him a quick call and tell him the number.

 

[BoroKnight]

Wow that article was really something. Author is just another one of those all too common in the media that seeks to get a rise out of an audience in an effort to get page views.

I disagree. I think he represents a rather large portion, perhaps a majority, of Big Ten fans of every school in the league pre-1990s. Perhaps an extreme case, but that is a very common mindset. And not an unfair one. Some people are not all about the money.

 

[srru86]

Wow that article was really something. Author is just another one of those all too common in the media that seeks to get a rise out of an audience in an effort to get page views.

He is also a good example of the totally Boston centric sports fan. We all have our regional or local biases but some of these guys are really something.
The rest of us need something other than reports of Gronk's off field shenanigans and Pedro Sandoval's weight at spring training to get us through March.

 

[G- RUnit]

On the other hand the B1G hoops tourney has never been as good as the ACC or Big East Tourneys. Location really does not matter.