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Is pike losing this team? Discouraging thread......
Divide between players and coaches maybe?I have ZERO inside info on this but hearing alot of second hand rumors about the locker room have a little divide and multiple kids seriously considering entering the portal. Anyone hear anything?
Is pike losing this team? Discouraging thread......
The other site went crazy because a youthful member of the staff began to speculate wildly based on nothing. For example, he concluded that Cliff might transfer because Knight might get another job and players often follow their lead recruiter out the door. A crazy and immature post. The more experienced staff members should have shut him down. Nobody knows anything and the speculation based on nothing helps no one. Actually it can be harmful.
Which is complete and utter horseshit. The only reason cliff would leave would be to go to another p5 program. And knight most likely is not getting a job like that. Cliff is not leaving a guaranteed starting job in the big ten to transfer down to bumf*ck state.The other site went crazy because a youthful member of the staff began to speculate wildly based on nothing. For example, he concluded that Cliff might transfer because Knight might get another job and players often follow their lead recruiter out the door. A crazy and immature post. The more experienced staff members should have shut him down. Nobody knows anything and the speculation based on nothing helps no one. Actually it can be harmful.
The other site went crazy because a youthful member of the staff began to speculate wildly based on nothing. For example, he concluded that Cliff might transfer because Knight might get another job and players often follow their lead recruiter out the door. A crazy and immature post. The more experienced staff members should have shut him down. Nobody knows anything and the speculation based on nothing helps no one. Actually it can be harmful.
Which is complete and utter horseshit. The only reason cliff would leave would be to go to another p5 program. And knight most likely is not getting a job like that. Cliff is not leaving a guaranteed starting job in the big ten to transfer down to bumf*ck state.
There is no indication of RHJ transferring is there? If anything he will test the waters and likely return.
Kids in the transfer portal want to win. If our young core leaves, no one of more will want to come here. Maybe I’m wrong.
The other site went crazy because a youthful member of the staff began to speculate wildly based on nothing. For example, he concluded that Cliff might transfer because Knight might get another job and players often follow their lead recruiter out the door. A crazy and immature post. The more experienced staff members should have shut him down. Nobody knows anything and the speculation based on nothing helps no one. Actually it can be harmful.
How did Myles not leaving at all turn out, Hawk? Because that's what you were saying for months. Not that I blame the kid - or Pike - for his decision.Does this apply for RU or all programs??
Do you watch the transfer portal and understand that for the 1st time EVER, kids can now transfer and do not have to sit out the next season??
You cannot take old rules and apply them to this season. I will repeat again, anyone and everyone from any program has the right to now transfer....AND it will be the NEW NORMAL......that means it is not going to go back to the old model of a transfer being forced to sit out the next season.
2017 - 904
2018 - 882
2019 - 992
2020 - 1,026
2021 - 866 ( as of sometime Thursday)
Keep in mind, the Sweet 16 hasn't even started yet, the NIT is still being played.....
The expectations are upwards of 1250 to 1300 kids will land in the portal.....
There are about 4500 to 4600 kids in total for college basketball.....
With around 350 programs in D1, the average is around 3 kids per program.
I don't think an average of 3 per program is shocking in any way.
The only "slamming" that should be of Pike is if Harper, Jones Cliff or Mulcahy leaves. Those are the four that absolutely have to be here if we are going back to the dance.The slamming of Pike in this thread is shameful, some of you should be embarrassed and do not seem to have any concept of the unique situation here with the portal and the extra year of eligibility.
The one constant is Coach Pike and I trust him until proven otherwise. He's taken us deeper into the season over the last 2 years since the early 1980s. Players typically improve their game and develop year after year under Pike and staff. I was bothered by 1 comment made by Eugene in the Carino APP piece yesterday, however, I attribute that to a little bit of sour grapes by Eugene for whatever the reason. Eugene's game grew by leaps and bounds when he played at Rutgers under Pike/Staff, and unfortunately hurting his knee 2 seasons in a row delayed his full progress.
I do believe the current group of players is ready for some turnover and that's usually a good thing as we've also seen teams grow stale when bringing back all 4-5 year players (i.e. Northwestern after their NCAA year; This year's Wisconsin team) . Completely understand JY signing out and Myles hitting the portal. I would understand if Geo decided to turn Pro. It's possible 1-2 additional players may be discontent and take their talents elsewhere. It happens to all Schools. The key is not to lose critical younger talent.
Other than JY and Myles, everything at this point is rumors, rampant speculation and hypotheticals without a shred of evidence.
In summary, this is College Sports and players come and go in the blink of an eye. Next year, they'll be new Rutgers Heroes to watch and root for, the same as every new season.
Jaden also back to work in the APC as of yesterdayThe only "slamming" that should be of Pike is if Harper, Jones Cliff or Mulcahy leaves. Those are the four that absolutely have to be here if we are going back to the dance.
The only "slamming" that should be of Pike is if Harper, Jones Cliff or Mulcahy leaves. Those are the four that absolutely have to be here if we are going back to the dance.
So if Jones, Harper, Cliff and Mulcahy leave you're okay with it?guess what, RU is probably not dancing next year barring landing a gem in the portal and no its not an indictment on Pikiell and why on earth would he be slammed if that happens...he just got us to the dance after 30 years...well 2 years in a row and our first win in 38 years
keep being a horrible poster
Why? Any of those guys leaving is a complete and utter failure by pikiell. It's one thing to not be able to recruit out of hs but to not even be able to recruit the players on your own team is just plain embarrassing. What would that say about the program?you are completely off the rails full stop..you have proven to be the worst poster on the board repeatedly and you have been given many chances to redeem yourself
The only "slamming" that should be of Pike is if Harper, Jones Cliff or Mulcahy leaves. Those are the four that absolutely have to be here if we are going back to the dance.
Which is complete and utter horseshit. The only reason cliff would leave would be to go to another p5 program. And knight most likely is not getting a job like that. Cliff is not leaving a guaranteed starting job in the big ten to transfer down to bumf*ck state.
Why? Because the speculating on this without any indication that something like this is even remotely likely to happen is ridiculous. Anything could happen, but why be a moaning Mary and constantly vetch about improbable scenarios when it is just as likely that he may be run over by a car in his driveway.Why? Any of those guys leaving is a complete and utter failure by pikiell. It's one thing to not be able to recruit out of hs but to not even be able to recruit the players on your own team is just plain embarrassing. What would that say about the program?
This is hilarious. So you are saying you're absolutely okay with Pike if that scenario happened?Think before posting this crap. Or better yet, post this on the Penn State board.
GREAT! A good sign.Jaden also back to work in the APC as of yesterday
So if Jones, Harper, Cliff and Mulcahy leave you're okay with it?
Did you even read what I said? I am FINE WITH Myles leaving, Geo, Jacob. I don't blame Pike or the kids. I am only bringing up a hypothetical.
Don't even get into worst poster. I used to follow the current events board and you were the absolute worst, on issues of way more importance than Rutgers basketball.
Instead of the (non) witty retort, why not answer the question?gee if a meteor landed on earth what would be left
Don't put thoughts in his mind. Now he's going to vetch about the possible size of the meteorgee if a meteor landed on earth what would be left
If enough of our guys enter the portal to seriously jeopardize our short and long term prospects, then Pike is not our answer for sustained success. However, for now, rumors are rumors.
Instead of the (non) witty retort, why not answer the question?
whats the question again....please base it on something other than wild hypothetical
I'm basing this on Kyk's initial post - the guy who started this thread. POSSIBLE chemistry issues (emphasis on that) could lead to transfers. It's hypothetical. You know, like your guy Trump who said he could shoot someone in the middle of New York and people would still love him. I'm sure you didn't criticize him for that speculation.whats the question again....please base it on something other than wild hypothetical