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Knight Shift said:
His twitter handle is keepsawinwood. We could take Keep Chopping, Keep Sawing Wood and Fence the Garden and work them into making picket garden fences.
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Wow, that is fate ! Or Kismet ! Or Serendipity ! I think you are on to something with those quotes, Plus he's got that 'jersey attitude ' !

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Abro1975 said:
OR, how about Mark Mangino. The offensive guru who took Kansas to the Orange Bowl not too long ago. He's now with the fightn' Pelini's at Youngstown St and in the playoffs, So what he's not skinny. Enough of that anti girth bias we heard with Ralph Fridgeon . This is not a beauty contest... it's Football goll damnit !

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Kenny Parker will have him in tip top shape at the drop of a hat
 
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huskersalways said:
Tim Beck at OSU is thought to be in trouble as Co-OC for Urban. If Ash wants somebody he is familiar with and runs his offense he might be a target. Whether Urban wants him gone or not he may want the job as the only OC instead of the passing game one. His QB coaching/development has been subpar for Urban is what is rumored.
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If it is rumored that his qb development has been subpar.....pass
 
Knight Shift said:
Closing a loop on your old buddy Bo, was reading up on FAU, and did not realize his brother, Carl, who is on Bo's staff, left under a "cloud" at FAU.
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FAU was a golden parachute for Carl. He was done at NU. He got caught with a prominent boosters daughter and also had drug issues. He was about to be unemployed when FAU took him. NU was thrilled about it and Bo was happy because he was not given a choice about firing him. The AD was going to do it. Truth be told the only good defenses NU had while Bo was there was the ones Carl was in charge of.
 
RMed said:
Something tells me this will be a big hire. Ash is a smart guy - knows the fan base was unhappy with Mehringer - he's going to go with a proven guy to save his own @ss.
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Would make a lot of sense after this year didn't work out as Ash had to think it might, even remotely. Don't think we can go with an unproven OC again and who knows if it affects recruiting. Even with lesser talent you should be able to make a few first downs and maybe it keeps you in games, a little.
Let's see if the CS learned anything that will help in a new hire.
 
Knight Shift said:
Not going to happen, but would be sweet:
Chip Kelly because he misses the East coast and isn't cutting it in the NFL?

Others?
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I'd like to see Bill Lazor come here and run Chip Kelly's offense but I think he prefers the NFL. He turned down an OC job at a P5 school to be the QB coach at Cincinnati
 
Hobbs make a rockstar play to get Paul Petrino.

Only makes $400k/yr as HC for Idaho, and they're going back to FCS in 2018.
 
Mark Helfrich is unlikely here. He's rumored as a possible candidate at LSU among some others but I can't see him coming here specifically at any salary we would pay. LSU just increased Dave Aranda's salary to 1.8M making him the highest paid assistant in college football. They're using the savings on Orgeron's salary on assistants.

Art Briles actually is probably more realistic in the sense it would take a fall from grace for someone of that coaching acumen to come here in that position. But his issues at Baylor pretty much make him a non starter for a school like us. On a lesser scale, Kevin Wilson is the same especially because of our Mike Rice past.
 
rutgersguy1 said:
Mark Helfrich is unlikely here. He's rumored as a possible candidate at LSU among some others but I can't see him coming here specifically at any salary we would pay. LSU just increased Dave Aranda's salary to 1.8M making him the highest paid assistant in college football. They're using the savings on Orgeron's salary on assistants.

Art Briles actually is probably more realistic in the sense it would take a fall from grace for someone of that coaching acumen to come here in that position. But his issues at Baylor pretty much make him a non starter for a school like us. On a lesser scale, Kevin Wilson is the same especially because of our Mike Rice past.
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Hope @bac2therac does not read the using the savings part of your post. RU is still saving $500K over Greg's 2012 salary with Ash, yet has one of the lowest budgets for assistants in the B1G. Sigh.

What about Art's son, Kendal? Jarret Stidham says he will follow Kendal to wherever he goes. Kendal would be reach though, and he has heavy hitters going after him.
https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/kendal-briles-affect-auburns-chase-jarrett-stidham
 
Knight Shift said:
Hope @bac2therac does not read the using the savings part of your post. RU is still saving $500K over Greg's 2012 salary with Ash, yet has one of the lowest budgets for assistants in the B1G. Sigh.

What about Art's son, Kendal? Jarret Stidham says he will follow Kendal to wherever he goes. Kendal would be reach though, and he has heavy hitters going after him.
https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/kendal-briles-affect-auburns-chase-jarrett-stidham
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I'm okay with Kendal Briles but still wonder about the Briles name (it doesn't necessarily have to be Art) and how it would play here. Plus on his end I'd wonder if he'd leave the friendlier confines of Texas/Oklahoma region for up here. I could see the SEC area, maybe even the west coast, but unless he's really desperate not sure if he'd come up to the northeast.
 
rutgersguy1 said:
I'm okay with Kendal Briles but still wonder about the Briles name (it doesn't necessarily have to be Art) and how it would play here. Plus on his end I'd wonder if he'd leave the friendlier confines of Texas/Oklahoma region for up here. I could see the SEC area, maybe even the west coast, but unless he's really desperate not sure if he'd come up to the northeast.
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Don't see it either. And I don't see Rutgers spending big bucks to make a splash hire. Hope I am wrong, but I foresee us getting someone from a G5 school and paying what we paid Mehringer.

People here pooh pooh the "need" for a Jersey guy with NJ connections. But I was intrigued when I read that tOSU would need to do that to replace Luke Fickell (Ohio connections).

Phil Longo would be interesting. And if he's good enough for Ole Miss, why can't he be good enough for RU? He's a Jersey guy.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...hil-longo-candidate-ole-miss-oc-job/95232340/
 
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Knight Shift said:
Hope @bac2therac does not read the using the savings part of your post. RU is still saving $500K over Greg's 2012 salary with Ash, yet has one of the lowest budgets for assistants in the B1G. Sigh.

What about Art's son, Kendal? Jarret Stidham says he will follow Kendal to wherever he goes. Kendal would be reach though, and he has heavy hitters going after him.
https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/kendal-briles-affect-auburns-chase-jarrett-stidham
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BTW we paid Schiano 2.5M? I thought his average over the life of the contract was in the 2.2M area. It may have been less or more in any given year but I thought the average was in that vicinity. Ash is averaging 2M so I don't know how much of a difference that is plus the budget for the assistant pool has gone up in total since Schiano's days.

I think our compensation for coordinators is on par with most schools not in the SEC or the big money bag schools. It's not an elite salary by any means but I think it's about the norm. If anything it's our other assistants or our total pool that is less than other places. Frost made around 400K at Oregon. I think Herman made around 500K and these figures aren't from eons ago.
 
Knight Shift said:
Don't see it either. And I don't see Rutgers spending big bucks to make a splash hire. Hope I am wrong, but I foresee us getting someone from a G5 school and paying what we paid Mehringer.

People here pooh pooh the "need" for a Jersey guy with NJ connections. But I was intrigued when I read that tOSU would need to do that to replace Luke Fickell (Ohio connections).

Phil Longo would be interesting. And if he's good enough for Ole Miss, why can't he be good enough for RU? He's a Jersey guy.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...hil-longo-candidate-ole-miss-oc-job/95232340/
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Yea I posted about him and an article from Fox sports last night a couple minutes before you did. I like the name but some here will see Sam Houston State and cringe. The Jersey connection might ameliorate some of it but I know some people want a P5 guy. I'm open to anyone from anywhere if I think they MAY be capable.

I pooh pooh the Jersey connections as well in the sense that I see it as a bonus not a requirement. Find the best guy who can develop, teach and coach players up and if he's a Jersey guy then great. But my personal philosophy isn't to start there though.

I'm not a fan of the Fickell hire myself at Cincy although I think he'll be a good recruiter for them and may be able to pick away a couple local area recruits you might not expect. I always wondered why Urban needed a co-DC by his side. I know he has a tendency to do that for both sides of the ball but I think the initial year it may have been Fickell on his own but they weren't as good on defense that year....at least I think. Could be recalling incorrectly.

I think OSU just needs to replace a good recruiter. Urban's is a native, a national champion coach and he's been there for some time now to reacclimate himself and it is OSU in Ohio so how much our Fickell's connections really necessary? Does Urban recruit geographically and have coaches recruit certain regions? If so may be there's a hole now left in the midwest so they need that hole to be filled. I don't know I don't follow recruiting closely.
 
rutgersguy1 said:
Yea I posted about him and an article from Fox sports last night a couple minutes before you did. I like the name but some here will see Sam Houston State and cringe. The Jersey connection might ameliorate some of it but I know some people want a P5 guy. I'm open to anyone from anywhere if I think they MAY be capable.

I pooh pooh the Jersey connections as well in the sense that I see it as a bonus not a requirement. Find the best guy who can develop, teach and coach players up and if he's a Jersey guy then great. But my personal philosophy isn't to start there though.

I'm not a fan of the Fickell hire myself at Cincy although I think he'll be a good recruiter for them and may be able to pick away a couple local area recruits you might not expect. I always wondered why Urban needed a co-DC by his side. I know he has a tendency to do that for both sides of the ball but I think the initial year it may have been Fickell on his own but they weren't as good on defense that year....at least I think. Could be recalling incorrectly.

I think OSU just needs to replace a good recruiter. Urban's is a native, a national champion coach and he's been there for some time now to reacclimate himself and it is OSU in Ohio so how much our Fickell's connections really necessary? Does Urban recruit geographically and have coaches recruit certain regions? If so may be there's a hole now left in the midwest so they need that hole to be filled. I don't know I don't follow recruiting closely.
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From Longo's Bio (the guy has been a winner and killed it everywhere he has been):

Longo served as associate head coach and offensive coordinator at William Paterson University in 2000-01. The Pioneer offense ranked among the top attacks in NCAA Division III football and finished with the third-highest scoring average in school history. The team produced 33 school records.

Before entering the college coaching ranks, Longo was the winningest coach in school history at Parsippany Hills High School in Troy, New Jersey. In 1999, his team competed in and won the 11th highest scoring game in the history of high school football in the U.S. Longo earned NJ Star Ledger and Daily Record Coach of the Year honors in 1998-99 and was awarded the Sportsmanship, Ethics & Integrity Award by the National Federation of State High School Associations.

A running back for SHSU head coach K. C. Keeler at Rowan University from 1988 to 1991, Longo was a member of the school’s first New Jersey Athletic Conference championship and NCAA Division III playoff team. The New Jersey native earned a bachelor’s degree in physical education from Rowan in 1992.
 
Knight Shift said:
From Longo's Bio (the guy has been a winner and killed it everywhere he has been):

Longo served as associate head coach and offensive coordinator at William Paterson University in 2000-01. The Pioneer offense ranked among the top attacks in NCAA Division III football and finished with the third-highest scoring average in school history. The team produced 33 school records.

Before entering the college coaching ranks, Longo was the winningest coach in school history at Parsippany Hills High School in Troy, New Jersey. In 1999, his team competed in and won the 11th highest scoring game in the history of high school football in the U.S. Longo earned NJ Star Ledger and Daily Record Coach of the Year honors in 1998-99 and was awarded the Sportsmanship, Ethics & Integrity Award by the National Federation of State High School Associations.

A running back for SHSU head coach K. C. Keeler at Rowan University from 1988 to 1991, Longo was a member of the school’s first New Jersey Athletic Conference championship and NCAA Division III playoff team. The New Jersey native earned a bachelor’s degree in physical education from Rowan in 1992.
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Yea I've read the stuff and the article I posted makes it sound like he tries to keep it simple for his players and takes responsibility out of the QBs hands and allows other positions of the field to react to the what the defense is showing. I'm open to the guy.

He's got only like 26 plays or something. People make fun of Mehringer but I was saying that you know they always talk about some of these spread offensive minds and how they don't always have these expansive play call sheets. Everyone makes fun of Flood's piece of paper but I remember multiple times watching Texas Tech games when Leach was there and the commentators specifically pointing out that's Leach's whole play sheet there, lol. So some might have these gargantuan play call sheets but not everyone does.
 
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rutgersguy1 said:
Yea I've read the stuff and the article I posted makes it sound like he tries to keep it simple for his players and takes responsibility out of the QBs hands and allows other positions of the field to react to the what the defense is showing. I'm open to the guy.

He's got only like 26 plays or something. People make fun of Mehringer but I was saying that you know they always talk about some of these spread offensive minds and how they don't always have these expansive play call sheets. Everyone makes fun of Flood's piece of paper but I remember multiple times watching Texas Tech games when Leach was there and the commentators specifically pointing out that's Leach's whole play sheet there, lol. So some might have these gargantuan play call sheets but not everyone does.
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Finally read that article you linked. I wonder why a guy with as much success as Longo has not made the jump to FBS.
Also, as you said, his emphasis is on keeping the QBs job simple. We heard certain things about certain QBs not being able to learn the playbook and/or read defenses. Wonder how they would have done under Longo's system?:

“The guy that is the most important is the one I was asking to do too much,” he said. “I just want him to execute the play. Our quarterback gets the signal, IDs the coverage and takes the snap. We delegate all the QB’s duties out to everybody else."



At Sam Houston State, receivers are taught all the coverages. How they run “4 Verticals” varies depending on the coverage they face on that given play. “QBs never ‘read’ defenders,” Longo said.
 
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rutgersguy1 said:
Kevin Wilson was someone I had wanted at one time as a possible OC when he was a little shaky at IU but now with our past Mike Rice issues and the reasons for his IU departure make him untouchable.

I've mentioned Matt Lubick the Oregon OC this past year as a possible but he's also light on experience. Helfrich himself of course would be a good choice but not realistic.

Maybe Jeff Quinn who was OC at Cincy under Brian Kelly. He's a consultant/adviser at ND now after a failed stint as Buffalo HC.

Some of the Baylor guys might be too toxic and their offense may not be an exact fit but they have run the ball more than you may think. I wouldn't call it a power spread though. Not sure if they would like to leave the area any more than Mehringer did. Maybe Randy Clements their run game coordinator. I don't know if the Briles name would go over well up here.
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Lubick is being considered by several teams.
 
So, NJ.com has a slideshow list, :
1. Darell Hazell- on my list
2. Jerry Kill? WTF?
3. Brett Elliot, Texas State OC
4. Luke Wells, Utah State
5. Barney Cotton, UNLV OC, formerly Nebraska OC in 2003, overlapped with Ash at Iowa State
6. Todd Fitch - On my list
7. Matt Canada- look out @Panthergrowl13 --Canada and Doeren know each other
8. Phil Longo- also on my list--go for this!
9. Glenn Thomas- Rhule's OC, seven years as Falcons QB coach
10. Travis Trickett- FAU's OC under Charlie Partridge
11. Ryan Carty- UNH OC
12. G.A. Mangus- SC State OC
13. Zach Azzanni- Tennessee WR's coach and passing game coordinator
14. Thomas Hammock- Ravens RB coach. worked with Ash at Wisconsin
15. DelVaughn ALexander--Arizona State WR coach
16. Ralph Friedgen- they call this a longshot
 
Here's a name that is not on any list and a Jersey guy too. Jedd Fisch, passing game coordinator for Michigan:
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jedd_fisch_945659.html
Hometown: Livingston, N.J.
High School: East Hanover

1999-2000University of Florida Graduate Assistant
2001-03 Houston Texans Assistant to Head Coach
2004 Baltimore Ravens Offensive Assistant
2005-06 Baltimore Ravens Assistant Quarterbacks/Wide Receivers Coach
2007 Baltimore Ravens Assistant Quarterbacks Coach
2008 Denver Broncos Wide Receivers Coach
2009 University of Minnesota Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach
2010 Seattle Seahawks Quarterbacks Coach
2011-12 University of Miami Offensive Coordinator
2013-14 Jacksonville Jaguars Offensive Coordinator
2015-present University of Michigan Quarterbacks/Wide Receivers Coach/Passing Game
 
Andrew Breiner the Fordham head coach. Served as OC under Joe Morehead from 2012 - 2015. I saw them play a few times over the past few seasons and their spread was crisp, efficient and effective. Not an FBS school but Fordham has been very successful at the FCS level for the last several years.
 
Carty and Kevin Wilson.

and who the hell cares what the papers have to write about Wilson? Lets run our program how we want, not how our enemies want.
 
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This name intrigues me:
12. G.A. Mangus- SC State OC

I remember seeing his name next to a lot of top NJ recruits as the SC recruiter. he got a few NJ kids but it tells me he has ties to the northeast HS coaches. Plus he worked for the old ball coach (Steve Spurrier).
 
I don't see Ash picking someone he doesn't have some sort of tie to, even if it's 2 or 3 degrees removed (ie: Tom Herman --> Drew M.).
 
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RUfinal4 said:
This name intrigues me:
12. G.A. Mangus- SC State OC

I remember seeing his name next to a lot of top NJ recruits as the SC recruiter. he got a few NJ kids but it tells me he has ties to the northeast HS coaches. Plus he worked for the old ball coach (Steve Spurrier).
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From his bio. He's a Georgia native:

Mangus' abilities as a coach spill over into recruiting, as he was named one of the nation's top 25 recruiters by ESPN, Rivals.com and by 247Sports.com in February 2011, and one of the top 50 recruiters by 247Sports.com in `12 and `13.

Prior to Carolina, he was the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach at Middle Tennessee State for three seasons under former Gamecock coach Rick Stockstill.

Mangus took over the Delaware Valley program in May 2002, went 2-8 in his first season, and turned the team into an NCAA Division III championship contender. In the next three seasons Delaware Valley notched a 33-4 record, won three conference championships, and advanced to the national quarterfinals twice.

Mangus first full-time position came at Widener. He began as the running backs and quarterbacks coach and was eventually elevated to offensive coordinator. The Pioneers had two eight-win seasons and made two postseason appearances, including a spot in the 1995 Division III playoffs.

Mangus became the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator for Ursinus College in June 1999 and joined a program that had gone 3-7 in 1998. The 1999 squad posted a school-record 10 wins, including its first-ever Division III playoff win. The Bears went 8-2 the following year for their first back-to-back winning seasons since 1954.
 
To me the biggest name that is actually realistic is Kevin Johns from Indiana. His job may not be a stable one since the new coach-one they passed over Johns to name-may want to go in a different direction. We have all seen first hand Johns work.
 
seels2662 said:
To me the biggest name that is actually realistic is Kevin Johns from Indiana. His job may not be a stable one since the new coach-one they passed over Johns to name-may want to go in a different direction. We have all seen first hand Johns work.
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I've mentioned him in the past too but I just assumed he was going to stay on at IU since it was promotion from within. If he's available I like him as a choice as well. I'm not sure why Tom Allen would go in a different direction though. Has that been written anywhere?
 
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