Only 8 P5 programs play 2 P5 out of conference games this year
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Funny.. that's exactly what AAC, MAC and MWC fans are telling Temple, Buffalo and San Diego State about playing the Kitteny Lions.
So ???
vkj wasn't saying 2 top 5 schools should be on every P-5 school's OOC schedule.
Just pointing out only 8 P-5 programs scheduled 2 P-5 programs as OCC opponents.
No need to nitpick what type of P-5 schools RU plays.
I think I probably just get sick of hearing people complain about Penn State's schedule. I'm the first to admit that the schedule was put together this way for a reason. Personally, I'm fine with it. It's not like we are in the running for the T10 or a playoff berth.
One thing I will say. Rutgers SOS has absolutely nothing to do with their OOC games. It has everything to do with the fact that you got the absolute toughest draw possible in cross conference games. I could be wrong, but I don't think that has anything to do with Rutgers' scheduling.
first off, I didn't do the research, BTN did so I guess they think it's important. Second, I thought you guys were only here to police PSU threads? Third, you can't help what a team is going to look like when you schedule them in advance. When we scheduled Kansas people were concerned they'd have a "decisive schematic advantage" and be a solid team by now. WSU has gone to the Rose Bowl and has a coach who is an offensive genius did great at Tech prior to his incident.
That Nit win kept RU from having a 4-4 conference record.
Also made sure your Nits didn't end up 1-7 .
That's the thing, nobody was complaining about your horrible schedule......you guys know everything isn't about you? Right? If I start a thread about Jarred from Subway would you think that was about PSU as well? As for our crossover games, it's the cost of doing business. We got in for our TV sets and BTN wanted to illustrate that...best way is to give us Nebraska and Wisconsin. They wanted to prop you guys up so they gave you the exact opposite treatment. Such is life.....
WSU last went to the Rose Bowl in 2003. You schedule them over a decade ago?
Like I said in a previous post, everyone bangs on PSU's easy schedule (and lots of folks on here). Rutgers OOC is nearly as bad but there SOS is based on dumb luck (or misfortune) of drawing NU and Wisky. It has absolutely nothing to do with your AD going out and looking for tough games.
In fairness though, PSU was supposed to be an OOC for you last year and this.
I just think it is funny that you are making it sound like Rutgers is running through some OOC gauntlet because they face WSU and Kansas.
Just want to be sure here.. you are throwing a 13-10 win in my face?
Yeah, no rivalry here.
Don't know about that vkj.
Go to BWI and all you'll find is posters saying the B1G is out to get them. I think it's called the Jim Jones school of thought.
Go to BWI and all you'll find is posters saying the B1G is out to get them. I think it's called the Jim Jones school of thought.
I have never said it wasn't a rivalry. And yes, I am throwing a 13-10 win in your face. Last I checked, a win is a win and a loss is still a loss.
BWI is the pay site. Don't confuse it with the McAndrew Board. I can assure you that they are two different animals.
I was going to make this point as well. If they play one out of conference Power 5 game, that's the same total games against Power 5 opponents.
(Honestly didn't even think of TTFP until the Nitwit brought it up. Maybe he's self conscious.)
ANYWAY, back to the OP. Interesting that only 8 P5 teams are scheduling multiple P5 schools in a season.
Still, the Big 12 plays 9 conference games, which limits their ability to schedule OOC. The B1G is going to 9 conference games, which will also limit that (though also with the "no FCS" caveat). I'd like us to have recurring OOC of 1 P5 school, 1 decent non-P5 school, and 1 "easier" FBS school (which can be P5 or not).
ANYWAY, back to the OP. Interesting that only 8 P5 teams are scheduling multiple P5 schools in a season.
Still, the Big 12 plays 9 conference games, which limits their ability to schedule OOC. The B1G is going to 9 conference games, which will also limit that (though also with the "no FCS" caveat). I'd like us to have recurring OOC of 1 P5 school, 1 decent non-P5 school, and 1 "easier" FBS school (which can be P5 or not).
EAST DIVISION
Overall Conference Division
W-L % W-L % W-L %
1. Ohio State* 14-1 .933 8-0 1.000 6-0 1.000
2. Michigan State 11-2 .846 7-1 .875 5-1 .833
3. Maryland 7-6 .538 4-4 .500 3-3 .500
4. Rutgers 8-5 .615 3-5 .375 3-3 .500
Michigan 5-7 .417 3-5 .375 2-4 .333
6. Penn State 7-6 .538 2-6 .250 2-4 .333
7. Indiana 4-8 .333 1-7 .125 0-6 .000
nobody one here said either was a gauntlet. You are looking for things that don't exist. Also, my OP wasn't about us it was more about scheduling around the country.
Funny that a Nit would get upset over RU's OOC schedule when Penn St wasn't mentioned .
But a guilty conscience might have made (you) a Nit fan feel the need to knock RU's P-5 OOC opponents that keep with
the issue of only 8 P-5 scheduled 2 of their own kind on their OOC .
Don't make every thread you enter be about Penn St, this is a RU board and it has enough Nit discussions that you can be a part of.
Don't try to imply vkj intended this thread to be about the Nit's scheduling or how tough Rutgers OCC is, it was just about OOC scheduling until you dissed who RU scheduled to play.
Show some respect, there are plenty f threads you can talk about your Nits because the thread is about them.
Don't knock RU in order to make your Nits look better.
which is more recent than UCLA or Washington yet they are both trending up. Point was you never know what you are getting from year to year with 90% of programs.
You're the one who brought up them winning a Rose Bowl. Thought it was funny when I looked it up and it was in 2003.
You're making it look like the same by taking this thread as an implied slight against Penn St and then trying to put RU down because of that mistake,
You want to be considered a reasonable poster act like one.
Tell us your take on the 8 P-5 schools OOC schedules that have other P-5 schools on them.
Don't just come here to put down the P-5 schools Rutgers scheduled as OOC games because everything is about PennSt in your mind.
Talk about the other P-5 schools with 2 P-5 opponents, if you want to prove a point about RU's OOC
or STFU !
Im worried about Temple TBH. I'm not sure which team is better. WVU would be a good match up for PSU because our D and DBs are pretty legit and their D is putrid. I believe your concern would be with your DBs when looking at that game.
I brought it up because you made it sound like they were Georgia State. They a have long history, 4 Rose Bowls actually, and a coach many thought would take them to the next level. Not our fault he hasn't
RU scheduled Kansas in 2012 after Charlie Weis was hired and everyone expected KU to improve ( at the time) under Charlie.
So knocking KU being on RU's OOC in 2015 is just BS.
Also when RU scheduled WSU, it was after Mike Leach's first ( undeniably bad) first year as HC there.
Many though Leach would build a winner there , even with his horrible start as the Cougars' HC.
RU didn't schedule schedule KU & WSU knowing they would remain cupcakes, Weis and Leach were thought to be the kind of coach that wold make the Jayhawks and Cougars successful programs.
You come on this thread dissing RU's OOC without a valid reason and you don't expect to offend Rutgers fans.
Maybe other RU fan will allow RU to be put down , but I won't stand for that type of BS.
Especially when there wasn't a good reason for you to to do so.
I'll get upset every-time someone tries to make RU look bad without a valid reason.
By the way, you haven't seem me upset, yet.
Only seen me voice my opinion strongly.
Let's hear about the other P-S schools that scheduled 2 P5 opponents in their OOC and if they meet your criteria for excellence
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This is pretty funny.
In hindsight, I should have simply stayed out of this thread. You and OP are correct in that regard.
Won't get upset over what you just said and the strong opinion I will post is:
I think we got along in the past and will in the future and will be able to disagree with each other as long as we feel the other isn't disrespecting our school.
[cheers]
No you could have contributed without being condescending. You could have brought up the 9 game schedules or talked about teams like BYU and Navy being equal to P5 schools. Instead you got defensive and combative.
I think we can all agree that between the time you schedule a team and actually play them a lot can happen.
We are not talking about the usual cupcakes that every program has at least one of each season. These are two programs located in top conferences so they have a much better chance of attracting better players than do most of the rest of Div. 1 schools.
Since no AD wants to put their team in an impossible position week in and week out, you will always see some kind of balancing act to win more than you lose. But not be perceived as beating up on the cripples in the process.
As much as we hear some complain about seeing Norfolk St./Howard all the time, we are also giving our team a true warm up with a controlled scrimmage and a very low chance of losing. Nobody wants to see another Michigan vs. Appy. St. disaster in their backyard. But, looks like the BIG will not let this kind of scheduling continue so I fully expect to see a bottom feeder in the Div.1 ranks to not lose this advantage.
As for our two P5 teams this year, Kansas probably is pretty bad but I don't agree with the PSU poster's opinion about Wash. St. and I think PSU would more than have their hands full with their offense too.
We are not talking about the usual cupcakes that every program has at least one of each season. These are two programs located in top conferences so they have a much better chance of attracting better players than do most of the rest of Div. 1 schools.
Since no AD wants to put their team in an impossible position week in and week out, you will always see some kind of balancing act to win more than you lose. But not be perceived as beating up on the cripples in the process.
As much as we hear some complain about seeing Norfolk St./Howard all the time, we are also giving our team a true warm up with a controlled scrimmage and a very low chance of losing. Nobody wants to see another Michigan vs. Appy. St. disaster in their backyard. But, looks like the BIG will not let this kind of scheduling continue so I fully expect to see a bottom feeder in the Div.1 ranks to not lose this advantage.
As for our two P5 teams this year, Kansas probably is pretty bad but I don't agree with the PSU poster's opinion about Wash. St. and I think PSU would more than have their hands full with their offense too.
Yeah, because Temple was in the Rose Bowl much more recently then WSU. I believe they played the powerhouse SD St in that game. Buffalo- I think it was the Orange Bowl that they were in recently.
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