Fans need to see the players care. Otherwise, fans will stop supporting the team. It's a catch-22.
OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread
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I'll have what you're drinking........
I'm glad you see a team THAT IS NOT HITTING as it's only issue right now.
I see a team that is going thru the motions / is lifeless / has no fire and accepts its reputation of being soft as it has endured for the past several years.
Very frustrating and unacceptable for the above 4 games into the season - and with a new manager.
Team needs a fiery passionate leader / player for the team to gravitate to - as clubhouse is void of that.
0-4 at home in front of the Mets faithful no way to start a season.
I get your point. But I wouldn’t mind seeing someone break up a double play and not seeing someone whine about it. But, yeah, when you don’t hit you look lifeless.
The one saving grace is that outside of the Braves, the rest of the division is off to a bad start too.
When you play 162, four games does not constitute a start. It is barely the start of the start. This ain't the NFL.
IMO, the Mets have possibly the greatest divergence in expected outcome in all of MLB. They could go 92-70 or 70-92 and I would be equally unsurprised. Either way, an 0-4 start does not seal their fate.
IMO, the Mets have possibly the greatest divergence in expected outcome in all of MLB. They could go 92-70 or 70-92 and I would be equally unsurprised. Either way, an 0-4 start does not seal their fate.
Positives:
Sean Manaea had a great start, Fransisco Alvarez looks great and is fun to watch, Edwin Diaz is back
Negatives:
Lindor slow start again, nimmo awful start, mcneil awful, bader and bench guys bad, bullpen weak, starting pitching bad, DH bad to start, defense below average
Neutral:
Baty average start, Marte (could be positive) looks to be back to normal, Alonso batting above .216
1 run in last 19 innings. there's different types of 0-4's. this one looks to be really bad.
Sean Manaea had a great start, Fransisco Alvarez looks great and is fun to watch, Edwin Diaz is back
Negatives:
Lindor slow start again, nimmo awful start, mcneil awful, bader and bench guys bad, bullpen weak, starting pitching bad, DH bad to start, defense below average
Neutral:
Baty average start, Marte (could be positive) looks to be back to normal, Alonso batting above .216
1 run in last 19 innings. there's different types of 0-4's. this one looks to be really bad.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to call the beginning of a season if not a "start." The problem is that following the Senga injury I read on this board and from many beat reporters that the Mets just need to find a way to stay around .500 until he returns. 0-4 is not a step in that direction. I know the baseball season is a long and tough marathon. It's made easier by getting off to a good start, beginning, etc.
This has been a horrendous start. One thing I look forward to- if Pete can end up around .250 and gets the same amount of AB's as last year- he would have a great shot at 50+ 130+
A known Yankees fan used to say back in 2022, why are Mets fans in the Yankees thread when they should be in their thread talking and enjoying how their team is playing,lol. Notice a different Yankees fan doing exactly that? No worries when the worm turns it'll be even sweeter.
Not sure if you're referring to me, but I'm not a Yankees fan. I actually root for the NY teams to do well because living in this area it makes the season more interesting and entertaining.
This morning on YT,someone posted a video about the Mets 1963 spring training featuring interviews with most of the players.I don't think that this has ever been shown as it appears to be a compilation.
Since we had a rain out last night and possibly another one tonight, I'm coming back to this and the notion that McNeil and maybe even the Mets are soft--at least when it comes to double plays. I (maybe no one else) saw it with McNeil's bewildering reaction to Hoskins breaking up a double play and doing so within the rules. Then I became a bit more concerned when a couple days later Lindor affirmatively veered out of the way as he arrived at second (when a slide actually could have broken up the DP) and simply surrendered the double play throw. That was followed by a jumbled, unsatisfying explanation of what the Mets are teaching from Keith and Gary.
Jomboy looked into it, in a piece that's long but incredibly revealing. (If the video starts in the middle, take it back to the beginning.) Apparently the Mets, led by McNeil, just surrender the double play. Run slow, veer off, slide way early to get under the throw. It's constant and bizarre. The only player on the current team who seems to try to break up double plays is Alonso. The rest want nothing to do with it.
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The head scratching thing is I watched Monday's game and a few times we had leadoff runner on and no one moved him over. Furthermore, one inning Nimmo our leadoff hitter got on no outs in a 0-0 game and it looked like he had no interest in trying to steal a base to get into scoring position. Why is he a leadoff hitter if he can't get a bag when needed, Gary made some half hearted excuse how he stopped still last year vs. the Tigers when he was thrown out twice. None of this makes sense.
Then I saw the Jomboy piece and how does none of our places try to break up the double play or always gives themselves up. There is a complete lack of fundamentals in this organization.
Then I saw the Jomboy piece and how does none of our places try to break up the double play or always gives themselves up. There is a complete lack of fundamentals in this organization.
First, Jomboy's videos are beyond entertaining. Second, fundies have been lacking in this organization for some time, except Buck's first year when the team was on point.
We'll be better of when we have guys like Williams, Acuna and Gilbert who will be able to affect the game in multiple ways. Don't know how they fit them all in the lineup though.
Mets broadcaster looked so disgusted during moment that wasn’t supposed to be on camera
He felt like most Mets fans Tuesday.
I am not sure if most of the posters this year are trolling and fans of other teams-I know a couple are good fans but pretty fed up, like cubuff. And at least 1- kbee, a pure troll.
But a few of you other guys- really leaning toward trolls. can't remember some of you posting whenever there have been something good.
Just saying
But a few of you other guys- really leaning toward trolls. can't remember some of you posting whenever there have been something good.
Just saying
I have been a Mets fan since the first day at Al Lang Field
I have been a Mets fan since the first day at Al Lang Field in 1962. Please tell me something good that has happened this year. I would be more than happy to post.
I guess Dellin Betances wasn’t available. Collecting every #6 starter in baseball doesn’t make a pitching rotation.
Will you people calm down, especially the janks and filly fans? How did that 11-1 start in 2018 end up? It's a long-ass season and we've barely cleared Easter.
What's truly amazing is the fact the Yankees are off to a great start but you're constantly in this Mets thread,lol.
Who's not calm? It's early, and there have certainly been some interesting thing to talk about so far.
(But, yes, there are the usual alarmists, reactionaries and die-easys who think they're die-hards. But that's just another day.)
Let's play two.
Agree 100%. Some try to come off as real Mets fans but show their true colors trying to make points they died on last season. More concerned about proving the point they droned on and on about last season{DH} and how that wasn't the problem. Comical really if you think about it. The Mets will right the ship, have a very good core of young kids ready to come up at some point this season and the money to sustain success.
And it's a true doubleheader too. Wish I could play hooky.
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