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OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread

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300+ million dollar payroll for a second straight year and no one with any trade value unless the Mets pay 80% of the salary. Cohen teams are turning out to be worse than the Wilpon's. At least with the Wilpon's we could complain about being cheap. Now we spend a lot of money and look terrible.
 
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Nido whiffs on ball right down middle

That’s on Nido.

He just sucks He sucked Ly and he sucks this year

You hit 200 with almost no power you can’t let ball knee high right down middle go between your legs
 
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300+ million dollar payroll for a second straight year and no one with any trade value unless the Mets pay 80% of the salary. Cohen teams are turning out to be worse than the Wilpon's. At least with the Wilpon's we could complain about being cheap. Now we spend a lot of money and look terrible.
Ok, you’re on record. Cohen worse than the Wilpons. Enjoy wearing that evaluation as the years move on.
 
This loss was on the Mets. They lost the game in the third inning. Yes, the umpires sucked, but the loss is on the Mets. This team is almost unwatchable.
 
This loss was on the Mets. They lost the game in the third inning. Yes, the umpires sucked, but the loss is on the Mets. This team is almost unwatchable.
I think they were batting like .135 with the bases loaded coming into tonight. That almost seems impossible. And of course it went down after those 3 straight whiffs tonight.
 
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This loss was on the Mets. They lost the game in the third inning. Yes, the umpires sucked, but the loss is on the Mets. This team is almost unwatchable.
Some may say they lost the game in the ninth inning. I would be among them.

Although I get your point.
 
Nido whiffs on ball right down middle

That’s on Nido.

He just sucks He sucked Ly and he sucks this year

You hit 200 with almost no power you can’t let ball knee high right down middle go between your legs
The sad thing is, at this point he's the best they have. At least there's a nonzero chance that he'll throw out a base stealer.
 
300+ million dollar payroll for a second straight year and no one with any trade value unless the Mets pay 80% of the salary. Cohen teams are turning out to be worse than the Wilpon's. At least with the Wilpon's we could complain about being cheap. Now we spend a lot of money and look terrible.
And this isn't true one bit. Also if they wanted to unload players there are many they could trade that would fetch something without paying off any of the deal.
 
And this isn't true one bit. Also if they wanted to unload players there are many they could trade that would fetch something without paying off any of the deal.
Not so sure about that...

Obviously the Mets can find takers for their pre-ARB and ARB guys, and those on expiring contracts. But the guys who have guaranteed money beyond this year? Let's take a look.

Lindor - No chance.
Marte - No chance.
Nimmo - Doubt it. If he were owed three years, maybe. But not six.
Senga - If he proves himself healthy and recovers his prior form, then yes. But not tradable now.
Diaz - Highly unlikely. He is being paid on his 2022 form, which he may never recapture.
McNeil - Nope. Unless someone wants the world's highest paid utility player, which right now is what he is.
Manaea - Probably yes, although his opt-out is a disincentive.

If all seven guys are back next year, and if Verlander's option vests, then the Mets are already on the hook for almost $160M next year. For seven guys. No bueno.
 
Not so sure about that...

Obviously the Mets can find takers for their pre-ARB and ARB guys, and those on expiring contracts. But the guys who have guaranteed money beyond this year? Let's take a look.

Lindor - No chance.
Marte - No chance.
Nimmo - Doubt it. If he were owed three years, maybe. But not six.
Senga - If he proves himself healthy and recovers his prior form, then yes. But not tradable now.
Diaz - Highly unlikely. He is being paid on his 2022 form, which he may never recapture.
McNeil - Nope. Unless someone wants the world's highest paid utility player, which right now is what he is.
Manaea - Probably yes, although his opt-out is a disincentive.

If all seven guys are back next year, and if Verlander's option vests, then the Mets are already on the hook for almost $160M next year. For seven guys. No bueno.
He said the Mets had no one with trade value. He didn't qualify it with any of that.
 
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Not so sure about that...

Obviously the Mets can find takers for their pre-ARB and ARB guys, and those on expiring contracts. But the guys who have guaranteed money beyond this year? Let's take a look.

Lindor - No chance.
Marte - No chance.
Nimmo - Doubt it. If he were owed three years, maybe. But not six.
Senga - If he proves himself healthy and recovers his prior form, then yes. But not tradable now.
Diaz - Highly unlikely. He is being paid on his 2022 form, which he may never recapture.
McNeil - Nope. Unless someone wants the world's highest paid utility player, which right now is what he is.
Manaea - Probably yes, although his opt-out is a disincentive.

If all seven guys are back next year, and if Verlander's option vests, then the Mets are already on the hook for almost $160M next year. For seven guys. No bueno.
Interesting discussion. But I think anyone with continuing blood flow to the brain can agree that there's a yawning chasm of idiocy between this multi-leveled analysis and the announcement that the Mets have no one that they can trade without paying 80% of their salary.
 
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What were the odds that a single player would have a RBI hit by pitch in consecutive games? Crazy.

And what about that stacked Mets bottom of the order 6-9 today. Baty, Taylor, Wendle and Narvaez. Good times. 😖
 
What were the odds that a single player would have a RBI hit by pitch in consecutive games? Crazy.

And what about that stacked Mets bottom of the order 6-9 today. Baty, Taylor, Wendle and Narvaez. Good times. 😖
Jersey you need to get a life! Go outside and inhale the fresh air.
 
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Not so sure about that...

Obviously the Mets can find takers for their pre-ARB and ARB guys, and those on expiring contracts. But the guys who have guaranteed money beyond this year? Let's take a look.

Lindor - No chance.
Marte - No chance.
Nimmo - Doubt it. If he were owed three years, maybe. But not six.
Senga - If he proves himself healthy and recovers his prior form, then yes. But not tradable now.
Diaz - Highly unlikely. He is being paid on his 2022 form, which he may never recapture.
McNeil - Nope. Unless someone wants the world's highest paid utility player, which right now is what he is.
Manaea - Probably yes, although his opt-out is a disincentive.

If all seven guys are back next year, and if Verlander's option vests, then the Mets are already on the hook for almost $160M next year. For seven guys. No bueno.
Yes, we can certainly trade players like Manaea, Severino, Reid-Foley, Ottavino without paying 80% of the salary, but these guys won't net much more than a low level or mid level prospect who has a very small chance of ever making it to the big leagues. As you pointed out, either we are stuck with terrible players who are highly compensated for the next several years or we trade them for good prospects and pay 80% of their salary.
 
He said the Mets had no one with trade value. He didn't qualify it with any of that.

Interesting discussion. But I think anyone with continuing blood flow to the brain can agree that there's a yawning cavern of idiocy between this multi-leveled analysis and the announcement that the Mets have no one that they can trade without paying 80% of their salary.

You are taking things too literally. No one is giving us a haul like Juan Soto for any of our superstars without us paying 80% of their salary. Players with expiring contracts will only net a low or mid level prospect which doesnt really move the needle.
 
And this isn't true one bit. Also if they wanted to unload players there are many they could trade that would fetch something without paying off any of the deal.
Which players could the Mets trade and get back any decent value without paying 80% of their salary?
 
Which players could the Mets trade and get back any decent value without paying 80% of their salary?
Most of the pitchers, Alonso, JD.

Times the Wilpon owned Mets won 100 games 0. Cohen Mets 1.

He got his real POBO in Stearns let them cook. The payroll this year is not indicative of the full talent of the team as it's paying off the 2 vet SPs from last year so bringing it up means nothing.

Big picture for the season so far this year is the bats need to come around but hovering around .500 is fine all things considered especially with the Alvarez injury. This is also without their best SP in Senga.
 
Got a feeling there will fans in the stands with trash bags on their heads in September maybe even August
 
You are taking things too literally. No one is giving us a haul like Juan Soto for any of our superstars . . .
And . . .

Suddenly the point changes to the team not getting Juan Soto level value in a trade, a point that isn't a point at all and has nothing to do with what you wrote.

This just keeps getting worse and worse.
 
And . . .

Suddenly the point changes to the team not getting Juan Soto level value in a trade, a point that isn't a point at all and has nothing to do with what you wrote.

This just keeps getting worse and worse.
The point has not changed. You are taking the discussion way to literally.
 
Most of the pitchers, Alonso, JD.

Times the Wilpon owned Mets won 100 games 0. Cohen Mets 1.

He got his real POBO in Stearns let them cook. The payroll this year is not indicative of the full talent of the team as it's paying off the 2 vet SPs from last year so bringing it up means nothing.

Big picture for the season so far this year is the bats need to come around but hovering around .500 is fine all things considered especially with the Alvarez injury. This is also without their best SP in Senga.
Which pitcher is going to land you a top level prospect? Alonso will be a FA and is having a terrible year. Not getting any top level prospects. JD Martinez barely signed at the start of the season and is also not getting any top level prospects.
 
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