OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread

[Knight Shift]

Had no idea Gary Cohen called Seton Hall hoops games. He is earning an honorary degree:

Gary Cohen up for 'pretty daunting' task: Seton Hall commencement speech

The Mets' (and Pirates') play-by-play broadcaster on being Seton Hall's commencement speaker -- a first in a life spent at the microphone

www.app.com

 

[yesrutgers01]

Thing is, Nimmo and Lindor are both typically much better then this. Yes Lindor has some slow starts to his record, but not this bad, and never has he looked this bad over an entire season. So what we are seeing now is outlier stuff from them. Not 2022.

Question imo is why are so many players under performing thus far? Is it a philosophy shift towards being more aggressive? Is it simply contagious non hitting?

It is an interesting question as almost everyone is have a horrible season. Yet, Met hitters are still in the upper half of MLB in getting walks and lower half for K’s…
The crazy thing is a guy like McNeil. And I don’t think it is about the shift. He has gone from a guy that could do whatever he wanted with the bat to just a bad hitter.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Had no idea Gary Cohen called Seton Hall hoops games. He is earning an honorary degree . . .

That's quite an honor. Usually one needs to mail in a set of three Froot Loops box tops to receive such a degree.

 

[RAHWAYBOB]

That's quite an honor. Usually one needs to mail in a set of three Froot Loops box tops to receive such a degree.

Your arrogance knows no bounds!

 

[Knight Shift]

That's quite an honor. Usually one needs to mail in a set of three Froot Loops box tops to receive such a degree.

Gary is a Columbia alumnus, and he at least appeared to be quite humbled and honored by the award.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Your arrogance knows no bounds!

OK, four box tops.

 

[MadRU]

 

[RAHWAYBOB]

OK, four box tops.

Brilliant comeback!!!

 

[MadRU]

Had no idea Gary Cohen called Seton Hall hoops games. He is earning an honorary degree:

Gary Cohen up for 'pretty daunting' task: Seton Hall commencement speech

The Mets' (and Pirates') play-by-play broadcaster on being Seton Hall's commencement speaker -- a first in a life spent at the microphone

www.app.com

He is very pro Seton Hall, has taken a few on air digs at Rutgers over the years too.

 

[Zak57]

May 19 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)

1. Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
2. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
3. Christian Scott RHP (NY Mets) - DNP
4. Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - 0/4, 2 K, .056/.206
5. Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - 1/4, R, K, .231/.606
6. Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
7. Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
8. Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
9. Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, HR(5), R, RBI, BB, K, .187/.615
10. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
11. Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
12. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
13. Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
14. Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
15. Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
16. Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - 0/4, .256/.687
17. Yovanny Rodriguez C (Extended Spring Training) - N/A
18. Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
19. Nolan McLean RHP/DH (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, HR(5), R, RBI, BB, K, .224/.849
20. Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
21. Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - 4/5, 2B(6), R, .267/.728
22. Jesus Baez SS/2B (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/5, R, RBI, K, .288/.805
23. Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
24. Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 2/5, 3B(2), 2 RBI, .175/.500
25. Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, R, BB, .267/.724
26. Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
27. Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
28. Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - 2.2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 0 HR, 2.48
29. Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
30. Rhylan Thomas OF (AA Binghamton) - 2/4, RBU, K, .323/.783

Honorable Mention

• Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
• Christopher Suero 1B/C (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
• Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 3/5, R, RBI, K, .216/.748
• Kade Morris RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
• Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
• A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
• Jake Zitella 1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
• Branny De Oleo SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
• Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off
• Willy Fanas OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - Off

 

[MadRU]

Dodgers acquired right-handed reliever Yohan Ramírez in a trade with the New York Mets. For cash

 

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[MadRU]

 

[Knight Shift]

Good article in The Athletic on Diaz' issues. Sorry, it's paywalled, but this graphic seems to capture a big part of the problem.

"Here’s Díaz’s year-by-year percentage of sliders in the “heart” of the plate charted in front of the opponents’ weighted on-base average against those sliders:"

A ray of light?

"The good news is, well, Díaz has been here before. He’s battled back from an even larger obstacle in 2019, when his slump lasted the entire season and came when he had little credibility with a new fan base. (He’s unlikely to be booed as vociferously now at Citi Field as he was that season; he may not even be booed at all.)"

This Week in Mets: What's up with Edwin Díaz?

His fastball velocity is down, but the real culprit for Díaz is that he keeps leaving his vaunted slider in the middle of the plate.

www.nytimes.com

 

[willisneverrana43]

If that were the only problem, but his velocity is down from 2022 significantly. About 2mph on both his fastball and slider. And it's obvious that his slider, setting aside location, doesn't have the same sharp break to it. I'd bet that he's also throwing a higher percentage of sliders. He's worried that his fastball is more hittable. There's a lot that off.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Lindor seems to enjoy playing the heel in Cleveland.

 

[Knight Shift]

Nido's bat seems to be warming up. That's about all we have for today. . . .

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Pulling from 3 pitcher thread

Mets had chance at
Gooden
Clemens
Scott

That’s a Ton of 1-10 with 7 k’s in a 3 game set

 

[Zak57]

FCL only on Mondays.

May 20 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)

1. Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
2. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
3. Christian Scott RHP (NY Mets) -
4. Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) -
5. Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) -
6. Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
7. Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) -
8. Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) -
9. Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) -
10. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) -
11. Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) -
12. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/5, 2 K, .378/.948
13. Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) -
14. Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) -
15. Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
16. Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) -
17. Yovanny Rodriguez C (Extended Spring Training) - N/A
18. Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) -
19. Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) -
20. Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) -
21. Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) -
22. Jesus Baez SS/2B (Low A St. Lucie) -
23. Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
24. Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) -
25. Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) -
26. Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) -
27. Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
28. Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) -
29. Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) -
30. Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) -

Honorable Mention

• Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) -
• Christopher Suero 1B/C (High A Brooklyn) -
• Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) -
• Kade Morris RHP (Low A St. Lucie) -
• Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) -
• A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/2, R, 2 BB, 2 K, SB(3), .250/.843
• Jake Zitella 1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/4, K, .341/.825
• Branny De Oleo SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/4, R, .250/.661
• Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/4, K, .302/.853
• Willy Fanas OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, 2B(4), RBI, BB, .257/.909

 

[MadRU]

 

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[nutfromSEC117]

It’s hard to have a conversation when there are no words left !!!

Positive or negative outlook …we all can agree this fan base full of some of the biggest die hards doesn't deserve this

 

[Mr Magoo]

I’m glad they moved Lindor to lead off so they can utilize his .193 batting average even more.. This team is remarkably mismanaged

 

[RuBird]

Houser should not be allowed on the plane coming home.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

 

[rurahrah000]

I am so grateful that Kelenic and Crow-Armstrong have been busts. Imagine if they were hitting like All-Stars?

 

[Doctor Worm]

I am so grateful that Kelenic and Crow-Armstrong have been busts. Imagine if they were hitting like All-Stars?

Kelenic isn't a bust yet. Crow-Armstrong isn't anything yet - but he will NOT be a bust. His floor is Kevin Kiermeier.

 

[rurahrah000]

Kelenic isn't a bust yet. Crow-Armstrong isn't anything yet - but he will NOT be a bust. His floor is Kevin Kiermeier.

I guess you can make that argument since they are both pre-arbitration, but that have not gotten off to blazing starts in their MLB career.

 

[Doctor Worm]

It’s hard to have a conversation when there are no words left !!!

Positive or negative outlook …we all can agree this fan base full of some of the biggest die hards doesn't deserve this

Actually, you raise a very interesting question. What do we as a fan base deserve? Here's my $.02.

FROM THE PLAYERS: On the field, we deserve effort, mental sharpness, and team play. Off the field, we deserve preparation and work ethic. Are we getting it? I... guess so? I have no reason to believe otherwise.

FROM MANAGEMENT AND OWNERSHIP: We deserve an intelligent strategy, provision of adequate resources, and transparency/honesty. I think we are getting the first two. Probably not the last, but New York fans are notorious for their inability to handle the truth.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Houser should not be allowed on the plane coming home.

That's harsh. He should definitely be allowed on a homebound plane, as long as it's HIS home.

 

[Knight Shift]

Actually, you raise a very interesting question. What do we as a fan base deserve? Here's my $.02.

FROM THE PLAYERS: On the field, we deserve effort, mental sharpness, and team play. Off the field, we deserve preparation and work ethic. Are we getting it? I... guess so? I have no reason to believe otherwise.

FROM MANAGEMENT AND OWNERSHIP: We deserve an intelligent strategy, provision of adequate resources, and transparency/honesty. I think we are getting the first two. Probably not the last, but New York fans are notorious for their inability to handle the truth.

Maybe this is off base, but this team has a Chris Ash Era feel to it. Team is going out there, some players seem to be giving their all, but they can't put it all together. Watching every game feels like watching a Friday the 13th movie, where you are nearly assured the Mets will get killed an lose, especially with Diaz on the mound in the late innings.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Losing team 101. You get quality pitching you don't score jack. You finally score some runs the pitching is piss poor.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I’m glad they moved Lindor to lead off so they can utilize his .193 batting average even more.. This team is remarkably mismanaged

I get where you are coming from but he did get 2 hits…

 

[nutfromSEC117]

All hope is not lost 😳

After Cleveland it’s the red hot giants , dodgers and the defending NL champs Arizona

21-27 could become 23-36 and the fire sale might start early

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[Doctor Worm]

I hate the six man rotation. Hate it. One extra starter means one less reliever. Taking one reliever out of the bullpen when your starters are only going five, is simply unsustainable. How much rest does a five inning starter need anyway?

Also, your sixth starter is taking starts away from your one through five starters. And your sixth starter isn't as good as those other guys. If he were, he'd be one of them.

 

[MadRU]

Brooks Raley to have TJ surgery, out for season.

 

[Zak57]

Kade Morris promoted to Brooklyn. Joel Diaz done with his rehab assignment in FCL and sent to STL. Willy Fanas promoted to STL.

Good day on farm yesterday especially for Tong and Sproat. Jeremy Rodriguez and Jesus Baez have super helium. These 2 are going to be top 100 overall guys if they continue this with Rodriguez starting to sneak into some of them already. Heck of a return for a half season of Pham. Eppler did great at the deadline last year but that's about it.

May 21 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)

1. Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
2. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
3. Christian Scott RHP (NY Mets) - DNP
4. Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - 0/2, 2 BB, .050/.258
5. Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - 2/4, 2 R, 2 RBI, SB(15), .237/.617
6. Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
7. Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, 2B(5), RBI, .169/.528
8. Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, 2 K, .256/.723
9. Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, 2B(4), R, 2 RBI, BB, K, .190/.627
10. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
11. Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
12. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/5, HR(1), 2B(2), R, 2 RBI, K, .381/1.028
13. Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - 7.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 9 K, 3 HR, 2.25
14. Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
15. Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
16. Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - 2/4, 2B(7), 2 R, RBI, 2 SB(19), .264/.702
17. Yovanny Rodriguez C (Extended Spring Training) - N/A
18. Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
19. Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) - 2/4, RBI, .500/1.000
20. Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - 6.2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 K, 0 HR, 1.86, W(1-0)
21. Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/3, K, .260/.711
22. Jesus Baez SS/2B (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/4, 2 R, RBI, 2 SB(7), .293/.810
23. Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
24. Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, HR(1), R, 2 RBI, .178/.529
25. Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, R, K, .270/.730
26. Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - 0/5, 3 K, .310/.801
27. Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
28. Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
29. Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
30. Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) - 1/5, R, .200/.400

Honorable Mention

• Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
• Christopher Suero 1B/C (High A Brooklyn) - 2/3, 2 R, BB, .194/.592
• Kade Morris RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
• Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, K, .195/.681
• Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
• Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
• A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/4, HR(2), R, 2 RBI, .250/.891
• Jake Zitella 1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/2, K, .349/.859
• Branny De Oleo SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, .256/.676
• Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/3, R, BB, 2 K, .283/.813
• Willy Fanas OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/4, 2B(5), R, .282/.942

 

[RU-05]

I hate the six man rotation. Hate it. One extra starter means one less reliever. Taking one reliever out of the bullpen when your starters are only going five, is simply unsustainable. How much rest does a five inning starter need anyway?

Also, your sixth starter is taking starts away from your one through five starters. And your sixth starter isn't as good as those other guys. If he were, he'd be one of them.

One would hope that when you have more rest between games, you can actually throw more innings when you do pitch.

I guess not though.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Kade Morris promoted to Brooklyn. Joel Diaz done with his rehab assignment in FCL and sent to STL. Willy Fanas promoted to STL.

Good day on farm yesterday especially for Tong and Sproat. Jeremy Rodriguez and Jesus Baez have super helium. These 2 are going to be top 100 overall guys if they continue this with Rodriguez starting to sneak into some of them already. Heck of a return for a half season of Pham. Eppler did great at the deadline last year but that's about it.

May 21 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)

1. Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
2. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
3. Christian Scott RHP (NY Mets) - DNP
4. Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - 0/2, 2 BB, .050/.258
5. Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - 2/4, 2 R, 2 RBI, SB(15), .237/.617
6. Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
7. Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, 2B(5), RBI, .169/.528
8. Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, 2 K, .256/.723
9. Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, 2B(4), R, 2 RBI, BB, K, .190/.627
10. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
11. Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
12. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/5, HR(1), 2B(2), R, 2 RBI, K, .381/1.028
13. Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - 7.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 9 K, 3 HR, 2.25
14. Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
15. Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
16. Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - 2/4, 2B(7), 2 R, RBI, 2 SB(19), .264/.702
17. Yovanny Rodriguez C (Extended Spring Training) - N/A
18. Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
19. Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) - 2/4, RBI, .500/1.000
20. Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - 6.2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 K, 0 HR, 1.86, W(1-0)
21. Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/3, K, .260/.711
22. Jesus Baez SS/2B (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/4, 2 R, RBI, 2 SB(7), .293/.810
23. Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
24. Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, HR(1), R, 2 RBI, .178/.529
25. Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, R, K, .270/.730
26. Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - 0/5, 3 K, .310/.801
27. Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
28. Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
29. Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
30. Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) - 1/5, R, .200/.400

Honorable Mention

• Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
• Christopher Suero 1B/C (High A Brooklyn) - 2/3, 2 R, BB, .194/.592
• Kade Morris RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
• Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, K, .195/.681
• Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
• Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
• A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/4, HR(2), R, 2 RBI, .250/.891
• Jake Zitella 1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/2, K, .349/.859
• Branny De Oleo SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, .256/.676
• Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/3, R, BB, 2 K, .283/.813
• Willy Fanas OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/4, 2B(5), R, .282/.942

Question: How do you determine who makes the Honorable Mention list?