I would define "limited sellers" as one of the following: Quintana, Severino, or Manaea. And I might be coaxed into including Bader.
If you are making Alonso available, then you've gone beyond just limited.
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If you are making Alonso available, then you've gone beyond just limited.
I'd agree on one of the starters. Before making Alonso available Id have to be 4-5 games under at the deadline. The stretch of bottom feeders is followed up with Yankees and Braves leading up to the trade deadline. I wouldn't hold onto him at that point just for the sake of it. Try to get something for him and then if you do want him back try to sign him in the offseason. Id also consider paying a team to take McNeil. Never gonna happen though.
Mendoza has shown he lacks instincts (gut feeling), and goes by the analytic book. Twice in the last few games, he has taken out a young starter (less than 80 pitches) for a bunch of bullpen bums. It's not like the starters were struggling. Each time his moves have cost the Mets big time. I understand we have to live with the growing pains of a rookie manager, he should have learned from the first mistake.
If Scott was on a pitch count, that is.an organizational decision, not just Mendoza.
Many people will remember his name. From today's box score.
Orze's ERA is listed as "INF". Never saw this before. A debut that will live in INFamy.
0.0 IP , 3 ER and 1 BB.
It gets better, he is listed as:
E. Orze(L, 0-1)
E Orze?
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Before today 77 pitches, Scott threw 91, 84, 94, 91, and 94 in the previous 5 starts. Mendoza is robotic just like his former boss in the Bronx. Even Peterson experienced the same thing. He was out of the game after a miss play by an infielder, but he suffers by being yanked out of the game. Again, Peterson had thrown 103 and 101 in his previous starts.
Even if it was an organizational call, it's a poor one consider how bad the BP has been all year. The whole analytic staff should be fired if they can't see the numbers from the BP being a big issue related to the team's struggles.
Mets management made the pre-game decision that Scott was to be limited to 75 pitches. Mendoza said that they wanted to limit him because it was the first time that he was pitching on a 5 day rotation.
Again, I have no idea whether this is the right way to develop a promising young pitcher. I do know that the people making this decision know a whole lot more about this stuff than I do.
INF is short for infinity. He has an infinite ERA. In the ERA calculation, the denominator is total innings pitched. In Orze's case, that denominator is zero. Can't divide by zero.Many people will remember his name. From today's box score.
Orze's ERA is listed as "INF". Never saw this before. A debut that will live in INFamy.
0.0 IP , 3 ER and 1 BB.
It gets better, he is listed as:
E. Orze(L, 0-1)
E Orze?
This has happened before. Hopefully, he will have the opportunity to retire at least one hitter and get a proper ERA.
I don't think the organization has ever had a clear plan, and it gets worse when leadership changes every few years. 😕
I just read an article about a Braves/Giants game that went 16 innings. Both Juan Marchal and Warren Spahn pitched complete games. Bygone era.
Cohen making a Cohen move. Maton was the fifth highest paid Rays player. Wanna dump some short term salary? Uncle Steve's your man. Maton has had good years, this has not been one of them. So we'll see.
Seems random, but who knows.
I am surprised at the Lucchesi DFA. Thought he was worth keeping around as insurance. Especially since there are expendables like Sulser and Jay on the 40 man.
His nickname is Spin Rate. Hopefully his recent decline isn’t from the sticky stuff
Spahn 201. Marichal 227. A months work for some starters today.
I assume Mendoza wanted to give Diaz a ninth inning save situation to get his confidence back. Ottavino was the man for the job.
A a statistical oddity: Mets are at .500 (45-45) with a run differential of exactly zero. They have scored 433 and allowed 433.
This suggests that the Mets are neither underachieving nor overachieving. They are what their record says they are - a middling team. Not bad enough to justify a full selloff. Not good enough to justify an all-in buying spree.
My guess is that they might do a bit of both. Sell a veteran starter, buy a high end reliever. And hopefully make an incremental improvement to their farm system with the arbitrage.
This suggests that the Mets are neither underachieving nor overachieving. They are what their record says they are - a middling team. Not bad enough to justify a full selloff. Not good enough to justify an all-in buying spree.
My guess is that they might do a bit of both. Sell a veteran starter, buy a high end reliever. And hopefully make an incremental improvement to their farm system with the arbitrage.
Never heard of him. My thought is that, with the injuries and Ottovino stinking it up, we’re desperate.
Desperate teams overpay. We most certainly did not. This is low risk with the hope of moderate reward.
I think the ASB should help the pen a lot. With the Diaz stuff and starters not going long Mendoza had to throw these guys into the deep end way too much, especially Garrett. Once we get out of the break the pen should have some rest and Mendoza can go back to having some more clearly defined roles which hopefully helps. Diaz 9th, Nunez 8th, Maton Garrett Butto middle relief and can see if Otto and Diekman bounce back. Houser and Orze in long relief/clean-up.
Senga pitched 2.2 scoreless for AAA. 2 hits 2 walks 3 strikeouts and was up to 98. Should be back by first week of August if all else goes well.
It seems as if the team has ended the Nolan McLean hitting experiment. He hasn't had an AB since June 20. His future is as a pitcher so it was the right decision.
Marco Vargas back to the IL for the 4th time this year. He's had an on and off hand issue. Also Jesus Baez who has been one of the risers in our system has also been placed on the IL. In good news Jacob Reimer has come back and began his rehab at the complex and will eventually move to Brooklyn. Hopefully we see Gilbert back soon as well.
July 9 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
It seems as if the team has ended the Nolan McLean hitting experiment. He hasn't had an AB since June 20. His future is as a pitcher so it was the right decision.
Marco Vargas back to the IL for the 4th time this year. He's had an on and off hand issue. Also Jesus Baez who has been one of the risers in our system has also been placed on the IL. In good news Jacob Reimer has come back and began his rehab at the complex and will eventually move to Brooklyn. Hopefully we see Gilbert back soon as well.
July 9 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
- Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
- Christian Scott RHP (NY Mets) - DNP
- Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
- Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - 0/4, BB, 2 K, .218/.868
- Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - 0/5, R, BB, SB(28), .259/.674
- Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
- Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/4, RBI, 2 K, .210/.628
- Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured
- Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - 1/5, .207/.648
- Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/5, K, .276/.747
- Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - REHAB FCL 0/2, K,
- Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - 0/2, 3 BB, K, SB(27), .233/.659
- Yovanny Rodriguez C (DSL Mets Orange) - 0/3, 2 K, .167/.605
- Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - 6.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 1 HR, 4.26
- Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, R, 2 K, .277/.744
- Jesus Baez SS/2B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
- Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, 2B(6), R, .234/.688
- Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/3, R, BB, .257/.732
- Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/5, .282/.725
- Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
- Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) - 0/5, RBI, K, .218/.662
- Wilkin Ramos RHP (AAA Syracuse) - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 0 HR, 5.87
- Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Kade Morris RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Jack Wenninger RHP (High A Brooklyn) - 4.2 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HR, 9.64, L(0-1)
- Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Willy Fanas OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/2, R, BB, .190/.563
- A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/3, 2B(6), R, 2 RBI, BB, K, .208/.644
- Jake Zitella 1B/3B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/4, R, K, .262/.750
- Branny De Oleo SS/2B (Rookie FCL Mets) - DNP
- Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/4, K, .269/.802
- Daiverson Gutierrez C (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/4, K, .261/.824
- Jeffry Rosa OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, BB, K, .148/.562
What/who is an ASB? From Rutgers days, that was the Administrative Services Building. Thank you, from an acronym-challenged fan.
All evidence from yesterday to the contrary. No one said we overpaid. But we nonetheless are throwing a hail mary. No reason not to try.
Hail Mary? Bad analogy. Maton is more a little swing pass. You're not expecting a touchdown. Hopefully you gain eight yards. Maybe you only gain two. But it won't be incomplete or intercepted.
A Hail Mary would be promoting Fujinami and inserting him into the setup role. Could be a TD, but I wouldn't count on it.
Given the polarity of the season so far I'm not sure how accurate a statement that is.
They were obviously not as bad as they were early, obviously not as good as they were in June, but are they merely the average of the two? Well they might be if they don't fix the bull pen. But if they do fix the bullpen, which granted is easier said then done, though Diaz helps in a big way on this front, I think they are better then 50/50 straight down the middle. Maybe factor in Senga as well as an upside influence.
I also think you have to let the more recent trend of good baseball play out. If they are 3-5 games over .500 at the all star break, I can't see the Mets, under Cohen, being anything but buyers. Anything that is sold would merely be guys who are negatives.
Schedule before and after the trade deadline until September. They should be a few games over .500 going into that Braves series. After the deadline there is a lot of winnable games as well on the schedule.
2 more vs Washington
3 vs Colorado
ASB
4 @ Miami
2 @ NYY
4 vs Atlanta
3 vs Minny
Trade Deadline
3 @ LAA
1 @ STL (Make-Up)
3 @ Colorado
3 @ Seattle
3 vs Oakland
3 vs Miami
3 vs Baltimore
4 @ SD
3 @ Arizona
3 @ White Sox
September it gets a bit tough again.
2 more vs Washington
3 vs Colorado
ASB
4 @ Miami
2 @ NYY
4 vs Atlanta
3 vs Minny
Trade Deadline
3 @ LAA
1 @ STL (Make-Up)
3 @ Colorado
3 @ Seattle
3 vs Oakland
3 vs Miami
3 vs Baltimore
4 @ SD
3 @ Arizona
3 @ White Sox
September it gets a bit tough again.
It's hard to figure out what you're even on about here. The Mets bullpen has a team ERA over 4, and they've traded for a guy with a career ERA over 4, and an ERA this year well over 4. The only thing that makes it palatable (other than it was done by Stearns, whom I like) is that it cost nothing.
Been saying since spring training that Cohen wasn't going to throw away the season.
I think there was a time early in this season where the play on the field was going to force his hand to sell, but the team turned it around. I can't see him selling when they are right in the mix, especially when the hitting, from the young guys and the established guys alike, is looking like this.
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