OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread
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If they are within a game or two of the wildcard at the deadline, I don't know how you face your players if you start selling off.
I'm hesitant to put too much stock into the schedule thing after what happened like 2-3 years ago. The year when all the talk was about the soft schedule in September would allow us to do some real damage and really make a run to a wild card. Only to then get beat up on by the so-called dregs of the league.
Right. And if you pay prospects or viable players for a high-end reliever but then also sell off a starter for prospects what have you gained for this year, other than a massive PR problem. It would suggest a front office that doesn't know what it's doing or can't make up its mind. That doesn't seem like Stearns to me.
So far, yes. Though his numbers this year are much better than his career averages. It wasn't an expensive gamble, though, and so far it's paid off.
Maybe Stearns sees the matrix.
It's time for Mets to address the DJ Stewart situation
DJ Stewart has been struggling badly over the last two months, and it's time for the Mets to address the situation.
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You would have achieved better balance.
Perhaps in trading a starter you also net a positive in terms of prospects.
Would you? If you look at a season as innings, starters pitch more innings than relievers. So how have you done anything but gotten worse and more pitching needy.
Put another way, the team has one pitching staff, and it will throw so many innings. If you trade away 80 of your best innings in return for 30 or 40 good innings, what you've done is create a hole. And no amount of talk or reasoning will suddenly make those 30 or 40 innings more important than the 80.
That's a very in general statement though that ignores that the Mets have, especially if and when Senga is back, numbers at starting pitching and a very poor bullpen.
No, it's a very specific statement. If you in essence swap a starter for a reliever, you will be trading more innings away than you're getting.
It is doubtful that they are going to trade a quality starter even up for a relief pitcher.
They've been killing that guy lately. He hadn't been very effective in a while either. Guess the two might correlate.
if you have starters in house you are not trading away innings.
You are trading a guy who could throw those innings but may not due to already having guys who could also throw those innings.
Orze down? How cruel! They could've at least given him a chance to get a mathematically determinable ERA.
I think you've walked yourself into a fantasy world in which the Mets would be trading a starter who can't even make their rotation for meaningful prospects.
You don’t trade quality starters even up for RP’s, even if you are out of it. Quint/Seve/Manea have all been above average. Even if selling, you would need something good coming back.
I'm not expecting meaningful prospects, but I'm also not expecting to trade meaningful prospects for a middle reliever.
I agree that, absent some quick downward spiral, the Mets won't be trading starters for meaningful prospects (or any prospects).
They may, however, give up prospects for relievers. I'm not sure what else they have. I'd prefer, though, that they instead try pitchers in their system, particularly the good ones--e.g., try Sproat in the bullpen. Years ago, that wouldn't even have been a controversial idea.
As long as he's effective, pitch him somewhere. Just get the right (or best we have) arms onto the staff and take a shot at this thing.
So- I think Vientos and Alvarez are future big time stars- we are locked in with Nimmo and Lindor- with these 4- you lock in a future HOF 1B, which does not even put us anywhere near the top salary with everyone coming off contract next year.
Alvarez/Vientos may be our next Wright/Reyes combo
Alvarez/Vientos may be our next Wright/Reyes combo
Sounds good, but what future HOF 1B is available? ;)
Oh crap, you bring up Vogey again? Just the other day you were going on about negative Mets fans, "except for a few, this thread is full of waaay to much whining and crying". Take a look in the mirror, geez.
Padres just lost
Getting very close
Must beat these crappy teams before break
Getting very close
Must beat these crappy teams before break
Butto is the eighth Met pitcher to record a save this year. That is unusual to say the least. Speaks to the unsettled nature of the bullpen by committee.
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