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OT: a good friend is STUCK IN CHINA

One thing the Administration has to do better on, though, is that the CDC has to get all the test kits working out in the field, since time to detection needs to be as short as possible.

Abso-friggen-lutely!

BTW...reports now that the first confirmed US case of unknown origin - no travel to China and no contact with infected person - has been identified in northern California. Don't think it's made it to the mainstream news yet but saw it on twitter.
 
I was just reading a post about this case on twitter. According to the source -

Patient was transferred to the Sacramento hospital (UC Davis) on Feb 19 (yes, a week ago). Patient was intubated and on ventilator when they arrived. Hospital requested coronavirus test and CDC denied stating case didn't meet the criteria. On Sunday the CDC finally agreed to the test and it came back positive today.

Patient was treated with airborne precautions at the new hospital but no word on how it was handled at the previous location.

Assuming that is all true...let it sink in a bit. How many other places in the US is this scenario playing out?
 
Yep, Solano County and being treated in Sacramento County. Report says picked out be some astute clinicians, so hopefully little further spread. All it takes is one of those "superspreaders" to kick off at least a localized problem...

https://www.kcra.com/article/new-ca...ip-confirmed-in-northern-california/31123681#

From the article:

"According to the CDC, there are now 15 cases of coronavirus that were confirmed within the U.S.:

  • 12 cases were travel-related
  • 2 cases were person-to-person spread
  • 1 case (the case confirmed Wednesday) was community spread
The total number of people tested for the coronavirus within the U.S., as of Tuesday, is 445."

Only 445 people total tested. I am almost certain it is already widespread across the US and by this time next week we will have a large amount of confirmed cases from coast to coast.
 
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I'm no fan of Trump, but agree. He can't go into China, Rambo-style, and do anything.

The bottom line as far as I know is that we haven't had a new case in the United States in a few weeks absent the people that were imported in and known to be carrying the virus.

If cases pop up, they will be addressed...if it spreads like wild-fire here, then it is fair to criticize, but so far, so good.
they aren't testing anyone man. People all over the city are coughing like crazy, yet they are only testing those who went to china, or have family who went to China. It's unbelievable.
 
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I was just reading a post about this case on twitter. According to the source -

Patient was transferred to the Sacramento hospital (UC Davis) on Feb 19 (yes, a week ago). Patient was intubated and on ventilator when they arrived. Hospital requested coronavirus test and CDC denied stating case didn't meet the criteria. On Sunday the CDC finally agreed to the test and it came back positive today.

Patient was treated with airborne precautions at the new hospital but no word on how it was handled at the previous location.

Assuming that is all true...let it sink in a bit. How many other places in the US is this scenario playing out?
could you link your twitter source please. I don't doubt you. I just want to have it as a source to read,
 
My neighbor works for a finance company in NYC. Starting Monday the company has closed their offices are is requiring all employees to work remotely for 3 weeks straight. This is the first i'm hearing of these type of actions... anyone else have similar stories?
 
Interesting tidbit on the Sacramento case. Apparently the person lived in Solano County which is where Travis Air Force Base is located. And there were a large number of quarantined people being kept there after returning from China. I don't think any officially tested positive and it sounds like they were released. But maybe some cases were missed (the tests do give false negative results at times). Maybe it's just a coincidence.

Sounds like the hospital at UC Davis may have taken "droplet" precautions but not airborne precautions, and now a bunch of medical staff there and at the previous hospital are under observation or have been sent home to self quarantine. Maybe this explains the declaration of emergency in SF, they had a heads up on what was going on...haven't seen this "officially" it's just twitter stuff so take with a grain of salt. I have to say, though, that information I've been seeing there has generally turned out to be accurate.
 
Sounds like the next hotbed for the spread of the Coronavirus is going to be Iran.

Coronavirus: How is Iran responding to the outbreak?

They're taking the Chinese approach to controlling communications:
Arrests for 'spreading rumours'
Iranian police have arrested 24 people accused of spreading rumours about the coronavirus online, AFP news agency reports.
A further 118 internet users were "talked to and let go" with warnings, the head of Iran's cyberpolice force Vahid Majid said.

_111044239_iran_map.jpg
 
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Handful of Iranian government officials have come down with it. I've said before I have no confidence in them having a clue of what's happening or how to curb it. I think they have a potential to be China like. If you think China's numbers are inaccurate I'd have even less confidence in Iran's.
 
Sounds like the next hotbed for the spread of the Coronavirus is going to be Iran.

Coronavirus: How is Iran responding to the outbreak?

They're taking the Chinese approach to controlling communications:


_111044239_iran_map.jpg
Just posted about that. That's been my belief even though they've been reporting lower numbers than Italy and South Korea. I don't think they have a clue and have said that's the potential for another China like problem. It's already spread to other countries in the Middle East with the origins coming from Iran and then who knows how much further after that.
 
NK will be much worse due to the horrible malnutrition over there.
I was watching a video where the guy (a doctor in England) talked about this. Said he has some contacts in NK and they say there is a big problem there, lots of cases and deaths. Of course, none have been officially reported.

I have faith in the numbers coming out of SK, Italy, Singapore, Japan, Taiwan at this point. They seem to be doing a lot of testing and have identified a significant number of cases. Those are the places I'm watching as possible predictors for what happens here. Iran is probably a lost cause, the same guy has contacts there and those contacts say the situation is much worse than being reported.
 
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NK will be much worse due to the horrible malnutrition over there.
I expect North Korea has an outbreak that's not being reported and China is probably the only country getting updated.

In the far east, South Korea has the most number of infected persons outside of China.
You can bet NK has far more, but keeping that info under wraps.

Europe's ground zero might be considered Italy with 400 cases and a bunch of their villages quarantined (55,000 people)
Austria, Croatia, Greece, Norway, Switzerland, Georgia and North Macedonia reported coronavirus cases. Many of them involved people who had been to Italy.
 
Friend of mine is a junior nurse at a large hospital in Greensboro, NC. They are taking no extra precautions i.e. no masks or eye protection. believes there are two possible cases at the hospital. not in the news.
 
California Governor just announced that the state has 28 confirmed cases.
I don't think those are new cases are they? I thought pretty much all of them were brought back from abroad. Only the 1 so far with suspected community transmission reported yesterday. Of course there could be more out there but nothing that's been reported so far.
 
I don't think those are new cases are they? I thought pretty much all of them were brought back from abroad. Only the 1 so far with suspected community transmission reported yesterday. Of course there could be more out there but nothing that's been reported so far.

Those must be the already confirmed cases from travelers, cruise ships, etc. I haven't seen anything about 28 new cases anywhere, twitter would have blown up with that news if it got out.

Friend of mine is a junior nurse at a large hospital in Greensboro, NC. They are taking no extra precautions i.e. no masks or eye protection. believes there are two possible cases at the hospital. not in the news.

Unfortunately I've read quite a few similar reports. Have also had some arguments with doctors who are claiming this is just the flu and no additional precautions are needed. Shaking my head about that!
 
Those must be the already confirmed cases from travelers, cruise ships, etc. I haven't seen anything about 28 new cases anywhere, twitter would have blown up with that news if it got out.



Unfortunately I've read quite a few similar reports. Have also had some arguments with doctors who are claiming this is just the flu and no additional precautions are needed. Shaking my head about that!
Thanks I figured that was the case and I know you’ve been following everything intently so you’d know lol.
 
Yep, Solano County and being treated in Sacramento County. Report says picked out be some astute clinicians, so hopefully little further spread. All it takes is one of those "superspreaders" to kick off at least a localized problem...

https://www.kcra.com/article/new-ca...ip-confirmed-in-northern-california/31123681#

You guys may be interested in this.
This is a letter to Jama by some Chinese physicians who are inferring a potential rebound carrier state following a presumptive virological "cure"as opposed to reinfection -which throws a whole new wrench in the situation. This is actually fairly scary phenomena
Letters
RESEARCH LETTER
Positive RT-PCR Test Results in Patients Recovered
From COVID-19
Previous studies on coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
mainly focused on epidemiological, clinical, and radiological
features of patients with confirmed infection.1-4 Little atten-
tion has been paid to the follow-up of recovered patients.
Methods | One hospitalized patient and 3 patients (all medical
personnel) quarantined at home with COVID-19 were treated
at Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China,
from January 1, 2020, to February 15, 2020, and evalu-
ated with real-time reverse transcriptase–polymerase chain
reaction (RT-PCR) tests for COVID-19 nucleic acid to deter-
mine if they could return to work. All the following criteria5
had to be met for hospital discharge or discontinuation
of quarantine: (1) normal temperature lasting longer than
3 days, (2) resolved respiratory symptoms, (3) substantially
improved acute exudative lesions on chest computed tomog-
raphy (CT) images, and (4) 2 consecutively negative RT-PCR
test results separated by at least 1 day.
The RT-PCR tests were performed on throat swabs follow-
ing a previously described method.1 The RT-PCR test kits
(BioGerm) were recommended by the Chinese Center for Dis-
ease Control and Prevention. The same technician and brand
of test kit was used for all RT-PCR testing reported; both in-
ternal controls and negative controls were routinely per-
formed with each batch of tests.
Demographic information, laboratory findings, and radio-
logical features were collected from electronic medical rec-
ords. After recovery, patients and their families were con-
tacted directly, and patients were asked to visit the hospital
to collect throat swabs for the RT-PCR tests.
This study was approved by the Zhongnan Hospital of
Wuhan University institutional review board and the need for
informed consent was waived.
Results | All 4 patients were exposed to the novel 2019
coronavirus through work as medical professionals. Two
were male and the age range was 30 to 36 years. Among 3
of the patients, fever, cough, or both occurred at onset.
One patient was initially asymptomatic and underwent
thin-section CT due to exposure to infected patients. All
patients had positive RT-PCR test results and CT imaging
showed ground-glass opacification or mixed ground-glass
opacification and consolidation. The severity of disease was
mild to moderate.
Antiviral treatment (75 mg of oseltamivir taken orally
every 12 hours) was provided for the 4 patients. For 3 of the
patients, all clinical symptoms and CT imaging abnormalities
had resolved. The CT imaging for the fourth patient showed
delicate patches of ground-glass opacity. All 4 patients had
2 consecutive negative RT-PCR test results. The time from
symptom onset to recovery ranged from 12 to 32 days.
After hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine,
the patients were asked to continue the quarantine protocol
at home for 5 days. The RT-PCR tests were repeated 5 to 13
days later and all were positive. All patients had 3 repeat
RT-PCR tests performed over the next 4 to 5 days and all were
positive. An additional RT-PCR test was performed using a kit
from a different manufacturer and the results were also posi-
tive for all patients. The patients continued to be asymptom-
atic by clinician examination and chest CT findings showed
no change from previous images. They did not report contact
with any person with respiratory symptoms. No family mem-
ber was infected.
Discussion | Four patients with COVID-19 who met criteria for
hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine in China
(absence of clinical symptoms and radiological abnormalities
and 2 negative RT-PCR test results) had positive RT-PCR test
results 5 to 13 days later. These findings suggest that at least a
proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers.
Although no family members were infected, all reported
patients were medical professionals and took special care
during home quarantine. Current criteria for hospital dis-
charge or discontinuation of quarantine and continued
patient management may need to be reevaluated. Although
false-negative RT-PCR test results could have occurred as
suggested by a previous study,6 2 consecutively negative
RT-PCR test results plus evidence from clinical characteris-
tics and chest CT findings suggested that the 4 patients quali-
fied for hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine.
The study was limited to a small number of patients with
mild or moderate infection. Further studies should follow up
patients who are not health care professionals and who have
more severe infection after hospital discharge or discontinu-
ation of quarantine. Longitudinal studies on a larger cohort
would help to understand the prognosis of the disease.
Lan Lan, MD
Dan Xu, MD
Guangming Ye, MD
Chen Xia, MS
Shaokang Wang, MS
Yirong Li, MD, PhD
Haibo Xu, MD, PhD
Author Affiliations: Department of Radiology, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan
University, Wuhan, China (Lan, D. Xu, H. Xu); Department of Laboratory
Medicine, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China (Ye, Li);
Beijing Infervision Technology Co Ltd, Beijing, China (Xia, Wang).
Corresponding Authors: Haibo Xu, MD, PhD, Department of Radiology
(xuhaibo1120@hotmail.com), and Yirong Li, MD, PhD, Department of
Laboratory Medicine (liyirong838@163.com), Zhongnan Hospital
of Wuhan University, Donghu Road, Wuchang District, Wuhan City 430071,
Hubei Province, China.
jama.com (Reprinted) JAMA Published online February 27, 2020 E1
 
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Friend of mine is a junior nurse at a large hospital in Greensboro, NC. They are taking no extra precautions i.e. no masks or eye protection. believes there are two possible cases at the hospital. not in the news.
My wife is a doctor and runs the critical care unit of a hospital in NJ. They have established protocols in place, including appropriate PPE when dealing with a suspected patient under investigation.

Her worry is when community spread initially starts occurring in NJ. Not enough testing kits and the usual questions about traveling to
China or bring in contact with a sick person who was in China wont prevent sick people from walking out of the hospital with a common flu diagnosis.

She’s worried about when China loosens travel restrictions, resulting in carriers coming into Newark Airport and JFK.

She puts the likelihood of 1,000 cases in the Tri-state area at 99% this spring.
 
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You guys may be interested in this.
This is a letter to Jama by some Chinese physicians who are inferring a potential rebound carrier state following a presumptive virological "cure"as opposed to reinfection -which throws a whole new wrench in the situation. This is actually fairly scary phenomena
Letters
RESEARCH LETTER
Positive RT-PCR Test Results in Patients Recovered
From COVID-19
Previous studies on coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
mainly focused on epidemiological, clinical, and radiological
features of patients with confirmed infection.1-4 Little atten-
tion has been paid to the follow-up of recovered patients.
Methods | One hospitalized patient and 3 patients (all medical
personnel) quarantined at home with COVID-19 were treated
at Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China,
from January 1, 2020, to February 15, 2020, and evalu-
ated with real-time reverse transcriptase–polymerase chain
reaction (RT-PCR) tests for COVID-19 nucleic acid to deter-
mine if they could return to work. All the following criteria5
had to be met for hospital discharge or discontinuation
of quarantine: (1) normal temperature lasting longer than
3 days, (2) resolved respiratory symptoms, (3) substantially
improved acute exudative lesions on chest computed tomog-
raphy (CT) images, and (4) 2 consecutively negative RT-PCR
test results separated by at least 1 day.
The RT-PCR tests were performed on throat swabs follow-
ing a previously described method.1 The RT-PCR test kits
(BioGerm) were recommended by the Chinese Center for Dis-
ease Control and Prevention. The same technician and brand
of test kit was used for all RT-PCR testing reported; both in-
ternal controls and negative controls were routinely per-
formed with each batch of tests.
Demographic information, laboratory findings, and radio-
logical features were collected from electronic medical rec-
ords. After recovery, patients and their families were con-
tacted directly, and patients were asked to visit the hospital
to collect throat swabs for the RT-PCR tests.
This study was approved by the Zhongnan Hospital of
Wuhan University institutional review board and the need for
informed consent was waived.
Results | All 4 patients were exposed to the novel 2019
coronavirus through work as medical professionals. Two
were male and the age range was 30 to 36 years. Among 3
of the patients, fever, cough, or both occurred at onset.
One patient was initially asymptomatic and underwent
thin-section CT due to exposure to infected patients. All
patients had positive RT-PCR test results and CT imaging
showed ground-glass opacification or mixed ground-glass
opacification and consolidation. The severity of disease was
mild to moderate.
Antiviral treatment (75 mg of oseltamivir taken orally
every 12 hours) was provided for the 4 patients. For 3 of the
patients, all clinical symptoms and CT imaging abnormalities
had resolved. The CT imaging for the fourth patient showed
delicate patches of ground-glass opacity. All 4 patients had
2 consecutive negative RT-PCR test results. The time from
symptom onset to recovery ranged from 12 to 32 days.
After hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine,
the patients were asked to continue the quarantine protocol
at home for 5 days. The RT-PCR tests were repeated 5 to 13
days later and all were positive. All patients had 3 repeat
RT-PCR tests performed over the next 4 to 5 days and all were
positive. An additional RT-PCR test was performed using a kit
from a different manufacturer and the results were also posi-
tive for all patients. The patients continued to be asymptom-
atic by clinician examination and chest CT findings showed
no change from previous images. They did not report contact
with any person with respiratory symptoms. No family mem-
ber was infected.
Discussion | Four patients with COVID-19 who met criteria for
hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine in China
(absence of clinical symptoms and radiological abnormalities
and 2 negative RT-PCR test results) had positive RT-PCR test
results 5 to 13 days later. These findings suggest that at least a
proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers.
Although no family members were infected, all reported
patients were medical professionals and took special care
during home quarantine. Current criteria for hospital dis-
charge or discontinuation of quarantine and continued
patient management may need to be reevaluated. Although
false-negative RT-PCR test results could have occurred as
suggested by a previous study,6 2 consecutively negative
RT-PCR test results plus evidence from clinical characteris-
tics and chest CT findings suggested that the 4 patients quali-
fied for hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine.
The study was limited to a small number of patients with
mild or moderate infection. Further studies should follow up
patients who are not health care professionals and who have
more severe infection after hospital discharge or discontinu-
ation of quarantine. Longitudinal studies on a larger cohort
would help to understand the prognosis of the disease.
Lan Lan, MD
Dan Xu, MD
Guangming Ye, MD
Chen Xia, MS
Shaokang Wang, MS
Yirong Li, MD, PhD
Haibo Xu, MD, PhD
Author Affiliations: Department of Radiology, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan
University, Wuhan, China (Lan, D. Xu, H. Xu); Department of Laboratory
Medicine, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China (Ye, Li);
Beijing Infervision Technology Co Ltd, Beijing, China (Xia, Wang).
Corresponding Authors: Haibo Xu, MD, PhD, Department of Radiology
(xuhaibo1120@hotmail.com), and Yirong Li, MD, PhD, Department of
Laboratory Medicine (liyirong838@163.com), Zhongnan Hospital
of Wuhan University, Donghu Road, Wuchang District, Wuhan City 430071,
Hubei Province, China.
jama.com (Reprinted) JAMA Published online February 27, 2020 E1
Wow, that would be bad...
 
Wow, that would be bad...
With regards to that I had come across this case yesterday of a woman in Japan testing positive a second time.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200227_12/amp.html

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...ests-positive-for-coronavirus-for-second-time

some scientists reaction to this case

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/...confirmed-as-a-coronavirus-case-for-2nd-time/

Also another case in the Southern Hemisphere in New Zealand someone returning from Iran. Another to keep watch on to see how things develop in NZ as a clue to what could happen in the north during the summer.
 
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The trump admin is a danger to this country with their lack of testing anyone who hasn’t been to China, having medical professionals not wear masks when dealing with the wuhan evacuation, and telling all disease experts they can’t talk without White House approval. I trust the USA’s numbers right now the same amount I trust China’s numbers
 
Looks like the test kit problems have been largely overcome with procedural work-arounds. This would be huge

As many as 40 state public health labs could begin testing for the COVID-19 virus using parts of the test developed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as early as this week, according to the Association of Public Health Laboratories (APHL).
.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/feds-allow-state-public-health-labs-test-covid-19
Hope it's not too late.
 
Funny how some truly OT threads like one are allowed to stay in this form while others are banished to shrivel up in that other forum...
 
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You guys may be interested in this.
This is a letter to Jama by some Chinese physicians who are inferring a potential rebound carrier state following a presumptive virological "cure"as opposed to reinfection -which throws a whole new wrench in the situation. This is actually fairly scary phenomena
Letters
RESEARCH LETTER
Positive RT-PCR Test Results in Patients Recovered
From COVID-19
Previous studies on coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
mainly focused on epidemiological, clinical, and radiological
features of patients with confirmed infection.1-4 Little atten-
tion has been paid to the follow-up of recovered patients.
Methods | One hospitalized patient and 3 patients (all medical
personnel) quarantined at home with COVID-19 were treated
at Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China,
from January 1, 2020, to February 15, 2020, and evalu-
ated with real-time reverse transcriptase–polymerase chain
reaction (RT-PCR) tests for COVID-19 nucleic acid to deter-
mine if they could return to work. All the following criteria5
had to be met for hospital discharge or discontinuation
of quarantine: (1) normal temperature lasting longer than
3 days, (2) resolved respiratory symptoms, (3) substantially
improved acute exudative lesions on chest computed tomog-
raphy (CT) images, and (4) 2 consecutively negative RT-PCR
test results separated by at least 1 day.
The RT-PCR tests were performed on throat swabs follow-
ing a previously described method.1 The RT-PCR test kits
(BioGerm) were recommended by the Chinese Center for Dis-
ease Control and Prevention. The same technician and brand
of test kit was used for all RT-PCR testing reported; both in-
ternal controls and negative controls were routinely per-
formed with each batch of tests.
Demographic information, laboratory findings, and radio-
logical features were collected from electronic medical rec-
ords. After recovery, patients and their families were con-
tacted directly, and patients were asked to visit the hospital
to collect throat swabs for the RT-PCR tests.
This study was approved by the Zhongnan Hospital of
Wuhan University institutional review board and the need for
informed consent was waived.
Results | All 4 patients were exposed to the novel 2019
coronavirus through work as medical professionals. Two
were male and the age range was 30 to 36 years. Among 3
of the patients, fever, cough, or both occurred at onset.
One patient was initially asymptomatic and underwent
thin-section CT due to exposure to infected patients. All
patients had positive RT-PCR test results and CT imaging
showed ground-glass opacification or mixed ground-glass
opacification and consolidation. The severity of disease was
mild to moderate.
Antiviral treatment (75 mg of oseltamivir taken orally
every 12 hours) was provided for the 4 patients. For 3 of the
patients, all clinical symptoms and CT imaging abnormalities
had resolved. The CT imaging for the fourth patient showed
delicate patches of ground-glass opacity. All 4 patients had
2 consecutive negative RT-PCR test results. The time from
symptom onset to recovery ranged from 12 to 32 days.
After hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine,
the patients were asked to continue the quarantine protocol
at home for 5 days. The RT-PCR tests were repeated 5 to 13
days later and all were positive. All patients had 3 repeat
RT-PCR tests performed over the next 4 to 5 days and all were
positive. An additional RT-PCR test was performed using a kit
from a different manufacturer and the results were also posi-
tive for all patients. The patients continued to be asymptom-
atic by clinician examination and chest CT findings showed
no change from previous images. They did not report contact
with any person with respiratory symptoms. No family mem-
ber was infected.
Discussion | Four patients with COVID-19 who met criteria for
hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine in China
(absence of clinical symptoms and radiological abnormalities
and 2 negative RT-PCR test results) had positive RT-PCR test
results 5 to 13 days later. These findings suggest that at least a
proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers.
Although no family members were infected, all reported
patients were medical professionals and took special care
during home quarantine. Current criteria for hospital dis-
charge or discontinuation of quarantine and continued
patient management may need to be reevaluated. Although
false-negative RT-PCR test results could have occurred as
suggested by a previous study,6 2 consecutively negative
RT-PCR test results plus evidence from clinical characteris-
tics and chest CT findings suggested that the 4 patients quali-
fied for hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine.
The study was limited to a small number of patients with
mild or moderate infection. Further studies should follow up
patients who are not health care professionals and who have
more severe infection after hospital discharge or discontinu-
ation of quarantine. Longitudinal studies on a larger cohort
would help to understand the prognosis of the disease.
Lan Lan, MD
Dan Xu, MD
Guangming Ye, MD
Chen Xia, MS
Shaokang Wang, MS
Yirong Li, MD, PhD
Haibo Xu, MD, PhD
Author Affiliations: Department of Radiology, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan
University, Wuhan, China (Lan, D. Xu, H. Xu); Department of Laboratory
Medicine, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China (Ye, Li);
Beijing Infervision Technology Co Ltd, Beijing, China (Xia, Wang).
Corresponding Authors: Haibo Xu, MD, PhD, Department of Radiology
(xuhaibo1120@hotmail.com), and Yirong Li, MD, PhD, Department of
Laboratory Medicine (liyirong838@163.com), Zhongnan Hospital
of Wuhan University, Donghu Road, Wuchang District, Wuhan City 430071,
Hubei Province, China.
jama.com (Reprinted) JAMA Published online February 27, 2020 E1

I'm sorry, I am not a medical person and my eyes glazed over early with the wall of text. What is the important takeaway from this abstract?
 
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I'm sorry, I am not a medical person and my eyes glazed over early with the wall of text. What is the important takeaway from this abstract?
It’s basically about a handful of people in China who tested positive for the virus a second time after having recovered and been negative. Also one in Japan I posted about a few posts later.
 
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