Me too and agreed.I'm pro-2A but that's just nuts.
Pro 2A, also pro background checks and training requirements.
"Well regulated" after all.
Me too and agreed.I'm pro-2A but that's just nuts.
It will be interesting to see where Alabama's standards lie on this. Maybe Miller will be suspended for the first half of their next game.Actually if this were Rutgers, Pike would have done the right thing and kicked them off the team.
But I know what you mean.
This might be true but it would be really difficult to prove in court.
I think this is what lawyers call Speculation.
I'm not an attorney but I've watched a ton of Law & Order.
I'm really surprised that Miller hasn't been charged with something.I was just watching a documentary on the Alabama judicial system.
They aren't too bright.
It's not that hard to beat the State. Even this guy won a case.
I may have read that wrong. If I did, then it does make Miller less involved. I still find it very odd that he is completely washed clean and doesn't even miss a half of basketball and his coach just doing a Franklin/Vandy impersonationNo, Miller didn't tell Miles that there was one in the chamber. Miles told Davis (the shooter) that there was one in the chamber.
From the AL.com article:
When Miller got to the scene, Miles told Davis, “The heat is in the hat.” Det. Branden Culpepper said that meant a gun was present.
Miles added, “There’s one in the head.” That, Culpepper said, meant a round was in the chamber.
Yes, I agree about the coach’s response. But I am not convinced Miller was as involved as most of you here do, mostly because there is a 0% chance anyone skates on a murder in Alabama or anywhere, and the scenario you describe is murder committed by Miller and the others no matter who pulled the triggerI am going by the report that I read that Miller had a dash cam showing his car placed to block the road. Also that he informed Miles that there was one in the chamber.
If both of those are true- then it should be enough to charge him. If those reports are false and all he really did do was go get a gun that his friend owned, then he shouldn't.
The coach's response though, either way- was horrific.
Exactly, and Shelby is right again.Oh, ok, that's a horse of a different color then.
Did you see the text message I shared above? Laughable that you're arguing he didn't know something was about to go downYes, I agree about the coach’s response. But I am not convinced Miller was as involved as most of you here do, mostly because there is a 0% chance anyone skates on a murder in Alabama or anywhere, and the scenario you describe is murder committed by Miller and the others no matter who pulled the trigger
As someone else pointed out- I may have mis-read the one in the chamber and it seems that may have been Miles to Davis, not Miller to Miles. That may be the thing saving Miller.Yes, I agree about the coach’s response. But I am not convinced Miller was as involved as most of you here do, mostly because there is a 0% chance anyone skates on a murder in Alabama or anywhere, and the scenario you describe is murder committed by Miller and the others no matter who pulled the trigger
On the contrary, I usually appreciate reading WhichReligionisRight's posts regardless of how controversial the subject matter is, just as I appreciate reading the posts of many other posters.. More tolerant and open minded thinking in here, and the resulting better balance, definitely makes the forum better.. Just my opinion though.I agree, you should stick to less controversial subject matter Which Religion Is Right.
agreed, but apparently not in AL since the DA's office is saying they can't come up with anything to charge miller with. (to me id atleast find all the minor issues and charge those just so he's not let off scott free)I'm really surprised that Miller hasn't been charged with something.
In some states if you and someone else are in a car and the other person gets out of the car, goes into a store, robs the place and shoot someone you also get charged even if you had zero knowledge of the crime.
Just read through their laws as well- and can say, not on the top of my list of states to visit or live in. At 18 you do need a permit but once you turn 19, it is Wild Wild West.Legally Miller probably will be given a pass because Alabama's gun laws allowed him to transport that gun.
As of January 1, 2023, Alabama does not require a permit or license to carry a loaded handgun in any vehicle.
As it was stated, in an earlier reply, by someone in this thread "proving Miller knew what was going to happened would be hard "and I feel even his blocking the car the victim was in probably would be considered a tragic coincidence giving that as a reason not to charge Miller with any crime .
Morally he's guilty as hell, but that don't fly when justice is involved and the powers to be don't want to push it.
As for Alabama's MBB program, just another example of College Sports Programs putting wins over accountability
I think this young man knew exactly what he was doing bringing the weapon to this situation and should bear responsibility. Will he? Who knows. It IS Alabama and the SEC after all.Me too and agreed.
Pro 2A, also pro background checks and training requirements.
"Well regulated" after all.
no problem with your thinking.I think this young man knew exactly what he was doing bringing the weapon to this situation and should bear responsibility. Will he? Who knows. It IS Alabama and the SEC after all.
"Well regulated" is about militias, not weapons. 2A basically says you can keep any "arms" (cannons and bazookas included) you want for property and self defense. You just can't have your own army.
"SHALL not be infringed" means government can't add conditions to the exercise of that right. These things get purposely, not ignorantly, misrepresented on a regular basis. Just like the whole " can't yell fire in a theater" nonsense. Should you? No. Can you? Yes.
1A and 2A can not be regulated in any way legally(or any constitutional right for that matter). Doesn't stop powers that be from trying to eliminate them on a regular basis though.
All the laws and regs in the world only affect those that obey them. I don't want a country where only the bad guys and people with enough money to comply with a pile of regulations can defend themselves. I want lots of armed good guys so one can be there to shoot this moron who caused this woman's death.
What's your everyday carry? What state do you live in?I think this young man knew exactly what he was doing bringing the weapon to this situation and should bear responsibility. Will he? Who knows. It IS Alabama and the SEC after all.
"Well regulated" is about militias, not weapons. 2A basically says you can keep any "arms" (cannons and bazookas included) you want for property and self defense. You just can't have your own army.
"SHALL not be infringed" means government can't add conditions to the exercise of that right. These things get purposely, not ignorantly, misrepresented on a regular basis. Just like the whole " can't yell fire in a theater" nonsense. Should you? No. Can you? Yes.
1A and 2A can not be regulated in any way legally(or any constitutional right for that matter). Doesn't stop powers that be from trying to eliminate them on a regular basis though.
All the laws and regs in the world only affect those that obey them. I don't want a country where only the bad guys and people with enough money to comply with a pile of regulations can defend themselves. I want lots of armed good guys so one can be there to shoot this moron who caused this woman's death.
Hockey assist vs basketball assist.If Miles is charged than Miller should be charged too. I don't see any difference between their roles.
Miles didn't even pull the trigger, Davis did. So either both are accessories or both should be charged with capital murder (based on AL law)
Haha that's a great analogy.Hockey assist vs basketball assist.
Although I agree with you...
Good guy stopping bad guy happens more than you think. Just doesn't fit what's allowed as news.no problem with your thinking.
But in some state the bad guys ( without criminal records) have legal access to the same weapons the good guys do and are able to shoot who they please then suffer the consequences.Also a so called good guy might supply a weapon to its legal owner that loans it to another person that uses that gun to kill someone All might have been considered good guys before the killing because they had never been arrested.
As far as a good guy with a gun stopping shootings, it does happen at times, also good guys don't do a thing although armed and there are even times the good guys miss the bad guy and shoot an innocent bystander.
.380 ACPWhat's your everyday carry? What state do you live in?
I guess the question areThis might be true but it would be really difficult to prove in court.
I think this is what lawyers call Speculation.
I'm not an attorney but I've watched a ton of Law & Order.
I'm in CT - I have an LCP Max that's the easiest gun I own to conceal.380 ACP
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G42I'm in CT - I have an LCP Max that's the easiest gun I own to conceal
I think you might have missed the joke lol.On the contrary, I usually appreciate reading WhichReligionisRight's posts regardless of how controversial the subject matter is, just as I appreciate reading the posts of many other posters.. More tolerant and open minded thinking in here, and the resulting better balance, definitely makes the forum better.. Just my opinion though.
So you're saying he would be charged with accessory if he played hockey....?Hockey assist vs basketball assist.
Although I agree with you...
I read through Bama's updated gun regulations and even those that support and 100% believe in right to carry should have a few issues.I guess the question are
1) was the murderer licensed to carry a firearm?
2) can you lend your firearm to someone?
3) if you illegally lend your firearm to someone and it is used in a crime do you have responsibility (yes)
lastly, miller at the bare minimum should be suspended but more likely should spend some hard time in prison
I worked in AL for a year on a construction project after graduating RU.I read through Bama's updated gun regulations and even those that support and 100% believe in right to carry should have a few issues.
If you are over 18, there is really no rule. At 19, you do not have to register, you can carry, transport, trade etc with pretty much no legal ramifications.
It is pretty crazy.
We elites cus we speak stuff that make no sense...lolI worked in AL for a year on a construction project after graduating RU.
Its like a whole other country down there.
Great people but they self govern without help from Northern elites.
Hey- we had a MBB coach throws basketballs at players…and it led to MBB and AD being fired…Kid needs to be tossed. Coach needs a talking to from the President and AD on how not to be an idiot. When I saw those comments yesterday I could not believe the words were coming out of his mouth.
Social media and the internet have turned the current generation into sociopaths. They can't separate the movies and music from reality.Man, kids are made of stronger stuff than I was in college. If I knew a person that was associated with a murder and I had any part of that story I'd be hiding in my bedroom and in no mental state to do anything, Remarkable.
My bad if that's all it was.. I thought that maybe it was also another jab at WhichReligionisRight from the forum's more conservative bunch.I think you might have missed the joke lol.
QHow has the Tuscaloosa DA not brought charges against the player? Oh wait. Never mind.
Nah I don’t really know him as a poster, it’s just that the question of which religion is right would seem to actually be a quite controversial topic :)My bad if that's all it was.. I thought that maybe it was also another jab at WhichReligionisRight from the forum's more conservative bunch.