mdk prides himself on stopping by every climate/energy thread only to babble oblique talking points to himself.
Just be happy he hasn't brought up German nuclear power for the 12th time that no one was talking about Germany.
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Just be happy he hasn't brought up German nuclear power for the 12th time that no one was talking about Germany.
It’s all there - we can all look at the power mix, it’s posted by the EIA. Hydro about 6% of total power. But in a world of increasingly volatile weather and climate, both hydro and nuclear are exposed to water based risks. Obviously, hydro and nuclear take a long time bring to market as well.
What I’ll never understand is the desire to pay more for power and damage the planet simply to own the libs.
I have solar. It’s awesome. Accounting for RECs and the low financing, my cost of power is fixed at 150-2/month for the next 24 years, then drops to free. That doesn’t account for all the excess I sell back to everyone else.
lol, at least he’s not an asshole. And he’s not bringing up the covid and actually participating in the conversation.
Hydro power in California, with ongoing long-term drought, likely hasn't increased much and wouldn't seem to be a great long-term bet.
We’re always going to need more power. Really bullish on SMRs. Also bullish enough on hydrogen to make it the focus of my masters.
It's all interesting but as always some technologies won't pan out or catch on. For the near future we already know what will work, like wind and solar, and what won't work for a long time, if ever, like hydrogen, various nuclear, geothermal.
Agreed. Hydrogen solves a lot of the problems that wind doesn’t - and really part of that second tranche of decarbonization. Nearly latched onto a senior position at a firm in regenerative ag.
It’s almost humorous at this point. A loud, yet decreasing minority wants to relitigate decisions made 3 years ago when facing an pandemic…everyone is else has come to the realization that we have set up our food and energy systems completely wrong, built to last 70-80 years, not perpetuity - and fixing those things is critical to passing the torch to our kids and incredibly exciting.
I disagree. While in this specific case, his point wasn't salient, he's a skeptic that often pushes back against bandwagons. And that's a good thing to do since bandwagons tend to have a lot of mob mentality behind them. And he's not one to mindlessly propagandize.
His questions and statements about nuclear over the years have been on point, IMO. Pushing nuclear power aside too too quickly might create more problems than it solves, in the short term. He's never said nuclear is without problems or is the ideal power solution for the future.
It's certainly an opportunity and the kind of thing some Americans have always enjoyed: making ideas reality. There are, of course, always Negative Nancys saying it can't be done but they have to be pushed past.
I think collectively, society is increasingly ignoring them, and as evidenced in this thread, just annoyed with and over it.
A low skilled dolt like Proud could probably find himself with a 6 figure salary doing Solar sales and/or installs…but he’d rather spend his time being a drunk asshole on a message board while draining society of the resources that could better be allocated elsewhere.
Agree.
Sourcing hydrogen is expensive and inefficient. Once we have an abundance of clean, renewable energy coupled with stationary storage, those hydrogen inefficiencies are less impactful, and we'll see significant growth of hydrogen.
This geothermal startup showed its wells can be used like a giant underground battery
If Fervo Energy’s field results work at commercial scale, it could become cheaper and easier to green the grid.
The grid isn't ready for the EV boom. Can better data fix that?
Utilities lack the necessary data to plan ahead for the coming influx of EV charging. A new data-sharing consortium could help them overcome that obstacle.
www.canarymedia.com
Guess who is delaying interconnection to the grid? Looks like that is about to change
www.yahoo.com
A new rule could lead to a massive change in America’s clean energy grid: ‘This is a watershed moment’
It's "a step in the right direction," one expert said.
Bad day for offshore wind 😀
www.zerohedge.com
www.reuters.com
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US offshore wind sector faces key test after weak Gulf auction
The low interest in the first-ever auction of offshore wind farm development rights in the Gulf of Mexico marks a potentially serious setback for U.S. President Joe Biden's green energy agenda, and the U.S. offshore wind sector in general.
There are quite a few posters that keep on shouting nuclear power as the total solution but it takes at least 5 years to built a nuclear plant. There has been a lot of stir about dumping nuclear waste into the ocean like Japan. I believe there’s a plant in NY or NJ that wanted to dump nuclear water into one of the rivers but people are protesting. Got to continue to add all sources of energies.
Plan to discharge water into Hudson River from closed Indian Point nuclear plant sparks uproar
Supporters of the plan say the releases are no different than those made when Indian Point was producing power and that the concentration of tritium has been far below federal standards.
www.pbs.org
The science behind the Fukushima waste water release
The BBC takes a look at the science behind the controversial water release.
www.bbc.com
I'm not aware of anybody who advocates for nuclear as a total solution. Do you mean, as part of the total solution? In which case, I'm not shouting about any of this, but I think nuclear can and will be part of the total interim solution.There are quite a few posters that keep on shouting nuclear power as the total solution but it takes at least 5 years to built a nuclear plant. There has been a lot of stir about dumping nuclear waste into the ocean like Japan. I believe there’s a plant in NY or NJ that wanted to dump nuclear water into one of the rivers but people are protesting. Got to continue to add all sources of energies.
Plan to discharge water into Hudson River from closed Indian Point nuclear plant sparks uproar
Supporters of the plan say the releases are no different than those made when Indian Point was producing power and that the concentration of tritium has been far below federal standards.
The science behind the Fukushima waste water release
The BBC takes a look at the science behind the controversial water release.
Nobody thinks it's ideal. But the world has immense energy needs and those needs are growing rapidly.
Guess who is delaying interconnection to the grid? Looks like that is about to change
A new rule could lead to a massive change in America’s clean energy grid: ‘This is a watershed moment’
It's "a step in the right direction," one expert said.
I think, The Sierra Club and other environmental organizations?
And not shutting down currently operating plants before the end of their useful life with an exclamation point!
Bad day for offshore wind 😀
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US offshore wind sector faces key test after weak Gulf auction
The low interest in the first-ever auction of offshore wind farm development rights in the Gulf of Mexico marks a potentially serious setback for U.S. President Joe Biden's green energy agenda, and the U.S. offshore wind sector in general.
The first article is a source I blocked years ago on Twitter.
The second article states:
The Gulf of Mexico leases were always going to struggle generating as much developer interest as seen in previous auctions for leases off the U.S. Northeast coast, as the Gulf waters are shallower, more congested, have lower overall wind speeds and face regular hurricane risks.
Nope electric power generation. They don't want to lose the $$$ from producing power
They don’t want wind or solar power because they have excuses like it cost more money. What do we do while we wait 5 years before another nuclear power plant is build? The nuclear power plant is actually the most costly energy, maybe existing plants aren’t as costly because it’s sunk cost. Nuclear should be added to solar and wind.
Nukes are too expensive. SMRs are un-proven, with all the issues of big plants. I'm not saying this because I don't want nukes. The problem is nukes are prohibitively too expensive in the USA.
Bad day for offshore wind 😀
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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
US offshore wind sector faces key test after weak Gulf auction
The low interest in the first-ever auction of offshore wind farm development rights in the Gulf of Mexico marks a potentially serious setback for U.S. President Joe Biden's green energy agenda, and the U.S. offshore wind sector in general.
Check out how Germany became the leader in alternative energy, whatever that is. I always thought alternative energy was matter.
Congratulations To Germany On Achieving More Than 50% Of Its Electricity Production From "Renewables"! — Manhattan Contrarian
On the march to Net Zero carbon emissions from usage of energy, the key first step is to eliminate fossil fuels from the generation of electricity, replacing them with the magical “renewables.” Or so we are told. Once electricity generation is fossil fuel-free, then all energy use can be switched to
www.manhattancontrarian.com
Murphy will bail them out with our money.
Check out how Germany became the leader in alternative energy, whatever that is. I always thought alternative energy was matter.
Congratulations To Germany On Achieving More Than 50% Of Its Electricity Production From "Renewables"! — Manhattan Contrarian
On the march to Net Zero carbon emissions from usage of energy, the key first step is to eliminate fossil fuels from the generation of electricity, replacing them with the magical “renewables.” Or so we are told. Once electricity generation is fossil fuel-free, then all energy use can be switched to
And they could have reduced power from conventional sources even more if they hadn't shut down their nukes and burned more coal. Hey @fsg2 , number 13!!!
Utah cities are sticking with their nuclear power plan after a hefty price jump
The small power systems that are pursuing a project to build nuclear reactors in Idaho are sticking with the plan despite a 53% jump in the price of the project.
Some Utah cities are willing to dig deeper to become nuclear-powered.
Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems recently updated the 27 entities pursuing construction of several small nuclear power generators in Idaho, and the $58-per megawatt hour cost has now grown to $89, mainly due to inflation and the rising cost of steel.
That price jump meant that the cities had an off-ramp to walk away from the Carbon-Free Power Project before any money has been spent on building what is now estimated to be a $9.3 billion endeavor. The project would not produce power until 2029 at the earliest.
Still, only the small city of Morgan opted out. The city of Parowan also voted to reduce its commitment by a third, but stayed in. And Los Alamos County, N.M., increased its commitment.
The U.S. government has given CFPP its blessing in the form of cash and sign-offs. Clean-energy incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act passed last year, combined with previous commitments, mean the federal government would cover 45% of the $9.3 billion cost.
And the U.S. Department of Energy announced in January that the NuScale designhas been certified as the first “small modular reactor” design in the country.
Utah cities are sticking with their nuclear power plan after a hefty price jump
The small power systems that are pursuing a project to build nuclear reactors in Idaho are sticking with the plan despite a 53% jump in the price of the project.www.sltrib.com
Some Utah cities are willing to dig deeper to become nuclear-powered.
Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems recently updated the 27 entities pursuing construction of several small nuclear power generators in Idaho, and the $58-per megawatt hour cost has now grown to $89, mainly due to inflation and the rising cost of steel.
That price jump meant that the cities had an off-ramp to walk away from the Carbon-Free Power Project before any money has been spent on building what is now estimated to be a $9.3 billion endeavor. The project would not produce power until 2029 at the earliest.
Still, only the small city of Morgan opted out. The city of Parowan also voted to reduce its commitment by a third, but stayed in. And Los Alamos County, N.M., increased its commitment.
The U.S. government has given CFPP its blessing in the form of cash and sign-offs. Clean-energy incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act passed last year, combined with previous commitments, mean the federal government would cover 45% of the $9.3 billion cost.
And the U.S. Department of Energy announced in January that the NuScale designhas been certified as the first “small modular reactor” design in the country.
Also in the article was that battery storage systems are ad expensive as the nukes.
Sadly both are likely needed.
Utah cities are sticking with their nuclear power plan after a hefty price jump
The small power systems that are pursuing a project to build nuclear reactors in Idaho are sticking with the plan despite a 53% jump in the price of the project.
Some Utah cities are willing to dig deeper to become nuclear-powered.
Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems recently updated the 27 entities pursuing construction of several small nuclear power generators in Idaho, and the $58-per megawatt hour cost has now grown to $89, mainly due to inflation and the rising cost of steel.
That price jump meant that the cities had an off-ramp to walk away from the Carbon-Free Power Project before any money has been spent on building what is now estimated to be a $9.3 billion endeavor. The project would not produce power until 2029 at the earliest.
Still, only the small city of Morgan opted out. The city of Parowan also voted to reduce its commitment by a third, but stayed in. And Los Alamos County, N.M., increased its commitment.
The U.S. government has given CFPP its blessing in the form of cash and sign-offs. Clean-energy incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act passed last year, combined with previous commitments, mean the federal government would cover 45% of the $9.3 billion cost.
And the U.S. Department of Energy announced in January that the NuScale designhas been certified as the first “small modular reactor” design in the country.
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So you ignore one article that is full of factual information and cherry pick one paragraph out of dozens that is slightly on the side of your argument.
It's pretty obvious why you are an uniformed partisan hack. Keep your head in the sand!
LOL Utah Cities are OK with Nuke plants in Idaho why not in Utah?Utah cities are sticking with their nuclear power plan after a hefty price jump
The small power systems that are pursuing a project to build nuclear reactors in Idaho are sticking with the plan despite a 53% jump in the price of the project.
Some Utah cities are willing to dig deeper to become nuclear-powered.
Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems recently updated the 27 entities pursuing construction of several small nuclear power generators in Idaho, and the $58-per megawatt hour cost has now grown to $89, mainly due to inflation and the rising cost of steel.
That price jump meant that the cities had an off-ramp to walk away from the Carbon-Free Power Project before any money has been spent on building what is now estimated to be a $9.3 billion endeavor. The project would not produce power until 2029 at the earliest.
Still, only the small city of Morgan opted out. The city of Parowan also voted to reduce its commitment by a third, but stayed in. And Los Alamos County, N.M., increased its commitment.
The U.S. government has given CFPP its blessing in the form of cash and sign-offs. Clean-energy incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act passed last year, combined with previous commitments, mean the federal government would cover 45% of the $9.3 billion cost.
And the U.S. Department of Energy announced in January that the NuScale designhas been certified as the first “small modular reactor” design in the country.
Article says "most participating systems are in Utah, but does include systems in New Mexico, Nevada and Idaho."
And the alts are always going to struggle with the need to generate & provide power where the people live, day & night, during storms or periods of calm, regardless of how inconvenient that is.
The wind energy fantasy was built on false promises, subsidies and cheap financing. The cheap financing is no longer available so reality is hitting the sector.
It only works in a few isolated environments and will fail in most places.
Why do you care? It’ll either work out, or it won’t. Currently, we have no perfect forms of energy. They all have downsides.
I don't believe there is a form of energy production that didn't enjoy cheap financing, or government subsidies. Big Oil was raking in billions in profits and still getting subsidies. Energy is important, so governments will incentivize it's production. It's not like the concept is new.
Why would anybody, who doesn't work for a particular segment of the energy production industry, be opposed to trying to make as many forms of energy work as possible, especially if they might help reduce greenhouse gases some?
Most of us are just consumers and, ultimately, will all benefit from as much energy production as possible. We consumers don't actually have to choose sides (aka be tools) in a special interest energy war. We can hope they all win which is how we all win.
Room temperature ambient pressure superconductors, if we can figure 'em out, would go a long way towards solving our energy needs forever. We could cut back on energy production due to the efficiency and storage capacity of superconductors.
If/when we get close to figuring that out, there will be an insane amount of anti-superconductor propaganda that seeks to get all of us doing what you're doing now - speaking out against the new kid on the block. You gonna buy into that propaganda effort too?
You can bet that there will be lots of cheap financing and government subsidies and companies that fail w/superconductors.
what that means is those systems are buying power from the idaho reactor not putting a small nuke in New Mexico, Nevada,
Just like I can choose to buy my power from a green energy supplier
Huge water battery being built in Scotland
www.yahoo.com
Government greenlights plans to build massive, $700 million ‘water battery’ that will help prevent power outages
The project is still in early development stages.
Huge water battery being built in Scotland
Government greenlights plans to build massive, $700 million ‘water battery’ that will help prevent power outages
The project is still in early development stages.
Not a bad idea. About 40 years ago something similar but on a smaller scale was proposed along the Connecticut River. But the power source to pump the water was the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant so it was opposed, protested and later dropped.
Partisan hacks are now wedded to certain types of energy no matter what. Why anyone would want to exclusively use fossil fuels forever, though, is beyond me. They're dirty, their price can vary significantly, and they come with major international headaches. Who likes seeing countless billions thrown at Saudi Arabia and Russia, and numerous other scummy regimes? Any alternatives should be welcomed.
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