Well that changes everything, now I'm convinced Clemson is the Harvard of Upstate South Carolina.
OT: Applications for Rutgers NB have increased almost 40% for Fall 2024
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Well that changes everything, now I'm convinced Clemson is the Harvard of Upstate South Carolina.
"Slow their kids options"
Yep, that definitely would describe any NJ idiot that pays for Clemson over RU. Or even NJIT.
Have you ever seen him post something that wasn't a deranged personal anecdote?
He's always so angry and then makes up things to justify it.
This is par for him.
He made up numbers.
And then bought into how Clemson gamed USNWR.
Once USNWR caught on, now Clemson is in its rightful peer group with the Newark campus and NJIT, but it has to be defended even if things are fabricated.
Though I think a lot of applicants to RU are probably applying to the big Northeast privates like NYU and BU. And a bunch to publics like UDel, Cult, Michigan, UVA. With RU you're going to get a cross section of kids who like big sports and city environment because we have both.
Your overall point though is the salient one. RU is #1 in the Northeast and #15 public.
The people crying and telling their kids not to go to RU, wah wah my kid had to take a bus, or Clemson has a gangbusters endowment, are not sending their child to Michigan or UVA or NYU. They are sending their kid to James Madison or Clemson. Which...again....it's probably impressive on Next Door or the Shop Rite line but not in the real world.
Actually one of the best things Rutger-NB has going for it is the tuition reductions based on Family Income.
Tuition for families earning $65,000 or less a year will get free tuition and mandatory fees.
Tuition for families earning $100,000 or less a year will be guaranteed significantly reduced tuition.
Does this program still exist and what a great benefit for residents of NJ.
If the proportion of students coming from families making less than $65,000/$100,000 per year increases significantly will the state increase funding to compensate for the loss of tuition.
Why go out of state or Private in state with NJ providing such support.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Tuition for families earning $65,000 or less a year will get free tuition and mandatory fees.
Tuition for families earning $100,000 or less a year will be guaranteed significantly reduced tuition.
Does this program still exist and what a great benefit for residents of NJ.
If the proportion of students coming from families making less than $65,000/$100,000 per year increases significantly will the state increase funding to compensate for the loss of tuition.
Why go out of state or Private in state with NJ providing such support.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Yea. No 18 year old cares about the quality of a campus, strength of the alumni base, or quality of life where they are going to live for the next 4 years. Not everyone grew up with their state school being their only option. Get over it. Maybe your kids will get to have options.
Still can’t follow along in threads that are more than a few posts I see.
I think RU has a particularly spread out and inconvenient campus compared with other peer schools and the bussing is a much bigger part of student life. You have to spin it as a positive: once you have a major and you are focused on one campus then it has a smaller school feel. Smaller school feel with big school opportunity.
Crime on any urban campus is higher than the rural and suburban schools. For many kids, the benefits of a city outweigh this. The point is, again, you don't lead with crime rate and say: The crime rate will make your kids tough. Come to Rutgers. You talk about the urban amenities.
If I were applying today, I would have been a better fit as a janitor in the pharmacy school, rather than being a student
It’s not worth it. He knows everything and no school compares to Rutgers. I had a momentary lapse thinking he may have matured and became reasonable
That’s it right there…
RU can be at big as you want or as small as you want.
But again, it’s not for everyone and the bottom line as others have also said…get the fit right and that’s half the battle.
Rutgers gonna Rutgers. Friend's kid was accepted today, his acceptance letter said, lightly paraphrasing, and with no further information. They deemed it the most unenthusiastic acceptance "ever." This is their second go round with the application process. Went from leaning no, to a hard no.
"Congratulations you have been accepted into at least one of the schools at Rutgers University."
"Congratulations you have been accepted into at least one of the schools at Rutgers University."
That’s BS. That’s just the notice and they tell you to go to the portal. The official acceptance is the real letter. This is exactly what I’m talking about. People making up sh1t to justify they are not sending their kids to RU.
I'm only passing one what was passed on to me. I'll straighten my friend out. If I lose a friend, it's on you. 😂
The rest of the message says “to view specific information about your admission, please visit your application portal” and there is a link to the portal page.
ETA this really bothers me. I have no problem with people picking other schools if they think it’s a better fit. No need to make up stuff to justify why you are not picking RU (the more logical/better choice).
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To be honest, not many. Weird thing is that kids in his school about very secretive about where they are applying and where they got it. I’m not sure if that is just a Delbarton thing.
My son likely won’t apply to RU. He’s got offers to play football for Amherst and Williams but is also getting interest from the Ivies. Fingers crossed but we’ll see how his senior year starts.
Well, I see Delbarton tuition is $45k a year so if they don’t get into an Ivy they might be embarrassed to tell where they are going. My nephew went to a Catholic HS and I was surprised that most went to schools with less reputation than Rutgers, other NJ colleges, and many didn’t go to college. A handful went to decent colleges. The parent probably spend all their money for their HS education.
The parents on this board appear to have kids in the Top 5% of their class so they have merit scholarships or athletic scholarships to OOS colleges. Parents in the other 95% aren't speaking up. The other 95% don’t have as much option unless their parents are willing to pay $250-300k for OOS colleges for parents that have decent upper class income. There a reason student loans are out of control. Only one sibling was willing to part with more than $200k but the kid went to medical school not undergraduate school. Two other nephews did go OOS about 18-20 years ago when it cost about $25-30k a year.
You guys bragging about their kids going OOS with scholarships are pushing average parents to think they need to give their kid the opportunity to go out of state when they can’t afford it. I guess all my relatives are not in the Top 5% in school because we have to pay full price tuition but somehow they end of in the top 2% after graduating from Rutgers. Funny, I think maybe only 2% of this board was in the Top 5% of their HS class. Doing well in HS does not mean you will be successful financially after college.
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Lol please. I grew up in South Jersey at Exit 3 which is a solid hour from Rutgers-NB. That's plenty far enough away to keep most students from Mom and Dad just walking on into your dorm unannounced but still close enough to get a home cooked meal every now and then as I had my car on campus.
1. They don't live in NJ.
2. It's pretty far down the list, mysteriously, SUNY Binghamton is higher on the list, but IIRC, they made a nice aid offer.
3. The top ones on the list are all very expensive private schools, but some very good ones.
Of course, I have extolled all the virtues of Rutgers and why they should move Rutgers up on their list.
Why can’t you guys get lots of kids don’t want to go to huge state schools. They don’t want to sit in enormous halls for lectures. They want actual professors and not TA’s teaching their classes. They want to be more than a number. It’s a personal decision. It’s like questioning why someone chooses to live in a specific town or drive a certain car when their are cheaper options.
How many of your kids are getting athletic or merit scholarships, all of them? I don’t think he asking you because you’re a special situation.
I believe in the past you mentioned if they didn’t get scholarships they were going to the state college even Rutgers. I believe you have several kid like 3-4.
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Most likely. I have 3 kids. First one is a freshman in college she received multiple D1 athletic scholarships as well as merit aid at many of the schools. Middle one accepted a P5 athletic scholarship. Youngest is TBD but he’s most athletic and smartest of the three.
Irony here is that certain people on this site want to paint me as being anti Rutgers. Funny thing is, those same people used to complain when I said non rich kids or kids that don’t earn scholarships should go to community college first then to a state school. They always argued “why is it ok for other kids but no yours crap”. And in reality I made one of my brothers kids do exactly that. She had a full ride for a sport. Went to the school and hated it. Wanted to transfer to some 80k D3 school in Pa. I made her go to CC for a year and transfer to state school. You don’t need 200k of debt to teach first grade.
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I’m not arguing with you - my question was outside of the value, what does Rutgers have going for it?
It’s an excellent school. It offers research opportunities that’s smaller schools don’t. It’s also close but not too close to most NJ residents.
My freshman in college went OOS. He was getting zero dollars from Rutgers. Most of the OOS state schools offered him merit $$ and several brought the cost to same or lower than RU. He loved RU all his life and I think in his heart wanted to attend Rutgers. But then when he started really looking at the schools, campuses, etc...it became clear that RU was not going to be the same experience. So when the money is similar (or even less), it becomes pretty easy to choose another school. Rutgers does not present itself well. I bleed scarlet, but when I went through the process with my son last year, I think i probably would have chosen another school too. Go visit some SEC and ACC schools. Their campuses blow Rutgers away for the most part and this definitely has an impact on an 18 year old.
Lesser schools always offer money to attract better students. If you don’t mind me asking which offered enough to be lower than RU in-state. My daughter got 6 figures in merit money but it was still more expensive than RU.
Not hard to grasp. Just questioning if dorms should be the reason to pick a college.
Considering the student is going to be living in one, I’m not surprised it’s high on the list.
Why wouldn’t your actual living arrangements be something of a priority?
Most kids live on campus freshman year. After that it's off campus apartments. But I'll give you an example of how dorms can impact a student. My daughter visited Kentucky on Monday (she's a senior in HS). Their dorms look really nice...all very new and up to date. But most of the rooms are single bedroom or some sort of separation of roommates. She hated that aspect of their housing because she felt like it would make it harder for people to interact and get to no each other...not just in the dorm but within rooms/roommates. Point is that this stuff matters to the kids. As I looked at it from her perspective, I kind of agreed that it's not ideal for connecting with people which is pretty important first semester/year. So despite very nice rooms, maybe not a preferred aspect of that particular school. I will also say this...anyone who tours Rutgers will generally see very poor dorms...old and beat up with pretty much nothing nice about them. Does this make a school good...NO...but it's a factor when kids are comparing colleges.
personally, it would be way down on the list. I guess it’s how you grew up.
I was a raised to want comfortable surroundings and a good roof over my head. Especially when I’m paying for it and I have options.
But I’m not 17, so what do I know.🤷♂️
The Rutgers tour I was on didn’t show dorms. The only dorm we saw was during the Honors college tour. How did you see the dorms and on which campus?
I'm more with @jtung230 on this. But I'm not 17 either.
The Honors College dorms are superb. Have not seen other dorms at Rutgers.
My youngest kid lived in one of the nicest dorms at a small private college in Connecticut. We saw the dorm this week--it was pretty nice, but not over the top to the point that it would have made a difference. That same kid spent the week before hanging out in Silvers apartments with some Rutgers friends. We asked how the apartments were, and he said they were "pretty good."
Was talking with two colleagues who have kids in college. One is at RPI in Troy. Seems the standard dorm is painted concrete block outer walls and drywall walls separating the bedrooms and living room. Carpeting and furnishings seems to be standard fare most everywhere.
Not sure what the guy's beef is with the RU dorms. I was in Davidson dorms freshman year. Think they were converted army barracks? They were fine, and I had no complaints.
My kids were more career and program focused. Both were focused on the academic labs and facilities at their respective schools. For the oldest, Rutgers got high marks. For the youngest, same at the small private college in Connecticut. Youngest did not want to go to Rutgers or a big state school. But he thought it was a fun place to hang out with friends.
That's a long way of saying that housing was not high on our list in our house, but each kid/family is different.
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