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OT: Bitcoin, Altcoins, NFT's & All Things Crypto

Good thing you are not a criminal. A lot of scammer stories involve crypto. Just recently there was a story about a lawyer losing his entire 401k. The scammers asked him to send crypto. I’m sure the authorities will catch them by following the blockchain soon.
This is too good. The story you’re talking about used more gold than Bitcoin! 😂😂😂😂


“I’m concerned for you,” Mr. Heitin recalled the dealer saying as he told him about another customer who was lured into buying gold for a scammer.

Mr. Heitin ultimately made three purchases — totaling roughly $416,000 — of gold ingots and coins.

 
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This is too good. The story you’re talking about used more gold than Bitcoin! 😂😂😂😂


“I’m concerned for you,” Mr. Heitin recalled the dealer saying as he told him about another customer who was lured into buying gold for a scammer.

Mr. Heitin ultimately made three purchases — totaling roughly $416,000 — of gold ingots and coins.

Except gold has other applications. Brings us back to the original question. Why is it scarce when there is no use for it?
 
Except gold has other applications. Brings us back to the original question. Why is it scarce when there is no use for it?
No, no, no. Brings us back to nothing. Take the L here. You brought up a story where a guy lost money because of Bitcoin but he instead lost it because of gold. You should be given a timeout from this thread. 😂
 
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No, no, no. Brings us back to nothing. Take the L here. You brought up a story where a guy lost money because of Bitcoin but he instead lost it because of gold. You should be given a timeout from this thread. 😂
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No, no, no. Brings us back to nothing. Take the L here. You brought up a story where a guy lost money because of Bitcoin but he instead lost it because of gold. You should be given a timeout from this thread. 😂
So no Bitcoin was used in that scam? Love the alternative facts. I brought up that there is no application for Bitcoin except for ransom or scammers. Glad to be proven wrong. Also waiting for @T2Kplus20 show where he got his stat about gold from.
 
And so it begins:


“Why are we here today? Because we all support Vice President Kamala Harris to be our next president, and we all believe in the future of crypto,” said the Senate majority leader (Shumer), who also announced his goal to pass crypto legislation by the end of the year.
Meh, they also moved 10k of their seized Bitcoin to Coinbase yesterday, likely to dump it. Actions speak louder than words.
 
Couple chartists on CNBC not liking the direction the bitcoin chart is taking.
 
Except gold has other applications. Brings us back to the original question. Why is it scarce when there is no use for it?
There’s no use for a global currency that can be transferred immediately on the most secure network ever built and can’t be controlled by governments/banks? Thats interesting.

The current money system seems to be failing but I’d love to hear counter arguments to that as I’m still trying to take it all in.

I’m not sure if bitcoin takes over the current money system but it’d be pretty ignorant to ignore it altogether.
 
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There’s no use for a global currency that can be transferred immediately on the most secure network ever built and can’t be controlled by governments/banks?
Ask and you shall receive - quick counter argument:

1. Where did you ever come up with the notion that the world super powers want a global currency? The U.S. would NEVER let this happen to the U.S. Dollar and China won’t touch it.
2. “Most secure network ever built” = I won’t even respond - feel free to see if you can find out which coder or developer (I.e., a “maintainer”) wears the CISO hat…read this:


3. “Can’t be controlled by governments/banks” = financial anarchy doesn’t sound too appealing and current financial system is impossible to replace - and I’m not suggesting I like it. You also need to understand who owns BTC - go research “Bitcoin Whales” - and reread the WSJ article on “maintainers”

Let’s call a spade a spade. Crypto/BTC has made a lot of people rich and FOMO is the key driver of its growth. It has ZERO mainstream use cases.
 
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Harris getting more onboard with appropriate crypto regs. Move in the right direction:

 
Harris getting more onboard with appropriate crypto regs. Move in the right direction:

Not getting political (or racist)…will be interesting how this plays out…Harris wants to give free loans to a group of people that 20% have owned cryptocurrency??? If someone has disposable income or cash to buy crypto they don’t need free money.
 
Not getting political (or racist)…will be interesting how this plays out…Harris wants to give free loans to a group of people that 20% have owned cryptocurrency??? If someone has disposable income or cash to buy crypto they don’t need free money.

Depending on how it is framed, it could be unconstitutional.
 
One of the more prominent black voices on crypto-twitter offers his opinion…
The race wrinkle in Harris’ crypto position is perhaps one of the oddest ways I’ve ever seen a candidate try to boost voting numbers in a particular race/demo. The most interesting part is I never knew such a high percentage of black men own crypto = meaning why would they then need free money/loan? To buy more crypto?
 
Quietly, the largest privately held fintech company just made the biggest crypto related acquisition on record. Stripe seems ready to push some adoption.
Just for my own edification, what do you mean by “adoption”? There seems to be this misconception that the BTC transaction thesis is still in play. Admittedly this article is a bit dated but there is a reason nobody talks about the BTC Mecca known as El Salvador:

 
Just for my own edification, what do you mean by “adoption”? There seems to be this misconception that the BTC transaction thesis is still in play. Admittedly this article is a bit dated but there is a reason nobody talks about the BTC Mecca known as El Salvador:

Two different things (stablecoins and btc). I think this quote from Stripe’s CEO sums it up well…
 
Two different things (stablecoins and btc). I think this quote from Stripe’s CEO sums it up well…
If Stripe can build a stablecoin infrastructure that addresses big issues like AML, fraud, etc. for cross-boarder transactions, how will that impact BTC? Also, Stripe is obviously doing this deal to make money - isn’t Stripe just becoming another financial institution that is going to assess fees on transactions making the whole “low fees” argument go down the drain?
 
If Stripe can build a stablecoin infrastructure that addresses big issues like AML, fraud, etc. for cross-boarder transactions, how will that impact BTC? Also, Stripe is obviously doing this deal to make money - isn’t Stripe just becoming another financial institution that is going to assess fees on transactions making the whole “low fees” argument go down the drain?
In theory, more money on chain would be good for Bitcoin but you’d have to see how exactly this plays out. I don’t think this will have much or an impact on Bitcoin.

Stripe is surely doing this to make money. Same as PayPal releasing their own stable coin, all a way to get more market share. They are doing it because of the low fees, so that argument would remain.
 
In theory, more money on chain would be good for Bitcoin but you’d have to see how exactly this plays out. I don’t think this will have much or an impact on Bitcoin.

Stripe is surely doing this to make money. Same as PayPal releasing their own stable coin, all a way to get more market share. They are doing it because of the low fees, so that argument would remain.
FWIW, I can see the utility of stablecoins but I suspect that if Stripe and others can nail the infrastructure …in 20 years Stripe will look just like a modern version of current financial institution or credit card company layering on transaction fees.
 
It makes you rich bizatch!
FWIW, your answer is the only reason Trump and crypto gov’t bulls are in the game. None of them believe it’s real. And I’m not suggesting that’s a problem as long as crypto risk doesn’t one day crash the market. Heck, my 15 year old son is all over crypto and I have been encouraging him to do so.
 
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