Cashman doesn't get enough credit. No it's not easy being patient and trading for top prospects. Don't forget he also brokered the original deal pre season to get chspman for low level prospects.
OT: Chapman to Yanks??!!
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Pay attention.
formerlyknown is a Yankees-hating mets fan. Expecting him to say something good about the Yanks....even if it is obvious to all...is like expecting a Trumpster to say something good about Obama.
Again, he's just mad that the Mets have used up their farm system. They have their pitchers but their window will be closing. They have a lot of holes on their roster that are going to give them trouble and they have run out of guys to trade..unless you are moving Dominic Smith who is basically your last saving grace
Between Mateo and Torres we have two top prospects who could play ss. Add in the fact that we magically got Blake Rutherford to sign and he absolutely killed it afterwards and we have Clint frazier..our farm has depth now. And it's freaking beautiful. Thats not even including guys like Justus and Kap at pitcher. We could deal an of or a ss prospect easily.
Mets have a top 10 prospect and it's not Dom Smith...
I'm not mad about Anything u losers, giving chapman a 5 year 86 million dollar deal just simply isn't a good deal, there's a reason the Cubs didn't even make him an offer
They didn't bother because they knew he wanted to back in New York and the Yanks offer wasn't going to be topped. Pretty simple silly. It's a very good deal for The Yanks - from beginning to end - bottom line and regardless of what the Harvard moron on ESPN thinks.
You should worry this much about the Muts EVER winning another WS before the year 2100.
You should worry about the Yankees actually making the playoffs .... And so the Cubs who spend hand over fist didn't want to pay him as much.... That's a sign for you he's overpaid, Epstein is a way better gm than Brian I just throw cash man
Really.
How many mets fans were even alive the last time that team won a World Series ?
The cubs just won a world series..they don't have the same sense of urgency they had 5 months ago. It is hard to repeat. Seriously you keep talking about it like it's gonna be a 5 yr deal no matter what. If he pitches well for 3 years he's gone anyway. You're seriously betting one of the better closers in baseball won't be able to pitch when he's 30? How close minded are you? Go tell me the ages of all the closers around the league and then get back to me. I'll give you a hint. Most are older than 30 and pitching just fine. Boo hoo we just paid a proven commodity vs throwing money at someone who could bust like other teams routinely do. Woe is us. We upgraded our bullpen by leaps and bounds..what were we thinking. Bullpens mean nothing in the major leagues. Oh wait..that's what someone who knows nothing about baseball would say when they have their head stuck up their ass.
Then tell me what dogshit the Mets are going to trade to win this year. Your farm system is now an absolute joke. Your minor league talent past a single player is absolute garbage. Your window for winning is gone..bye bye. You have no more assets to trade unless you trade from your pitching. You can't even trade your prospects cause you basically already did that.
We almost made the playoffs last yr carrying dead weight like a rod. Keep acting like having a full year of Sanchez or getting Byrd back won't matter for us at all. Not only did we almost make the playoffs last year while we were one of the hottest teams at the end, but we are LOADED on the farm.
Mets suck. Win something that matters. Until then you're still a joke. Sucks to be you.
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where do the mets need to trade ? our middle infield is great, so is our outfield, we are trading one of bruce, or granderson for relief pitching help, first base and catcher are big problems but besides that there's nothing wrong with the team, if all the starting pitchers stay healthy mets are fine, they have all the same players from their 2015 world series appearance minus murphy, but walker is as good as murphy was that season, an upgrade at ss in cabbrera, a full season of cespdes, no colon but pretty good young starting pitchers in gesselman, and lugo who can take his place, and jay bruce an all star outfielder. And lol the cubs don't have an urgency to win??? do you know anything about sports, tell me when the patriots, or yankees, or nick saban, or urban meyer, or bill belichek, or pat riley, or anyone who plays sports didn't want to win that bad just because they won the year before. If by urgency you mean the cubs don't have to drastically overpay for a player than sure, but then you're making my point for me.
guess if all you care about is winning rutgers is a joke than too.... sad, so are you a hypocrite or just not a rutgers fan?
Yes mlb is the same game as college football. Nice try at logic.. Maybe you'll get the hang of it in a few years
You're right Mets don't need to make any moves they're totally built ready to win right now.. What a joke. Deadline deals make our break contending teams. The closest your team came was built on a deal to get cespedes from the tigers.. Don't worry though, that pitcher you traded couldn't have helped you more now...oh wait I forgot Fulmer was amazing last year..whoops. good luck having a garbage farm and not being able to make deals like that. Your future looks so bright!!!
If you don't win it all, you will literally have nothing for your efforts. Hey at least you have Dom Smith. One prospect= a strong farm, right? The Yankees have about 4-5 prospects that basically shit all over him.
Also, nobody gives a shit about gesselman or Lugo..you bragging about them is sad.
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Gee, wow, that really hurts us. How about this: try winning something that actually matters, ya' know, like a World Series. And mentioning the playoffs, to Yankee fans (or those of a slew of other MLB teams), is stunningly absurd. I mean you DO realize how many times we've been in the playoffs, right? Oh, and before you even bother saying another word:
2009 v 1986
...mic drop and out! :cool2:[banana]:cool2:[cheers]:cool2:
A team/fan that has to brag about winning a division vs the success the Yankees have had is just pathetic
lol they would both start for the Yankees, you're pathetic, after all why do the Yankees even have the urgency to win since they've already won 27 times (your logic) and yes baseball is the same as college football u choose a team and u stay Loyal to it.
And Syracuse has won more than Rutgers in football, what have u done for me lately ?
Again Syracuse 1960 something Rutgers never, does Syracuse win the convo, does Pitt, does bc ?
The Yankees just demonstrated they are close to making the playoffs.. We just added a dh for next year and rp for 3-5 years to bring us closer. This is not hard to understand. We added Byrd back too. We played our best AFTER the trade deadline when we cut dead weight. A big difference between the Mets and the Yankees is we have a treasure chest of prospects to dish off if we find the right deals. This shouldn't be that difficult to understand..I'm sorry but I can't slow it down any further
Mets still have their 19 games each vs. the Phillies, the Braves, and the Marlins ?
Do they start 2017 with 15 of 20 games vs. losers ? Do they end 2017 with 19 straight games vs. losers ? I'll bet they don't run even once a gauntlet of Baltimore, Toronto, and Boston back-to- back-to-back. How fortunate for them.
Lmao keep whining about Strength of schedule, let's go back and analyze the Yankees Schedule every playoff appearance they've ever had, you're a loser
We play in the AL East. If you think there is a comparison to the joke you play, you're truly hopeless. seriously I've never heard so much shit from someone who hasn't won anything
1986 vs
1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2009
...losing in the playoffs, when the other team was in the playoffs in 2015, is getting you nowhere in this conversation. And, yes, you do play in a God-awful division. Let's not try to sugarcoat things. IIRC 3 of the 4 worst records in baseball in 2015 and probably not much different last year. With all that being said you LITERALLY WON 3 MORE REGULAR SEASON GAMES than The Yankees did last year. THREE!!!!
You're naivety on the topic is stunning. Maybe you should stop watching, and listening to, ESPN and their talking heads.
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I am not sure I would say the Mets are set up the middle. Yankees - Sanchez, Didi, Castro, Elsbury vs. who are you actually running out there at catcher? Cabrera, walker (coming off serious injury and he stunk before he got hurt) and Granderson. I wouldn't trade any of our guys for yours.
Really the only position you have us beat is starting pitching. Of course that is the most important spot so I will give you that. However, can you stay healthy. Matz and Harvey have proven they can't. If they don't come back healthy then the Yankees are better. Harvey stunk before he got hurt so there is a good chance he will stink again this season. Matz hasn't come close to making it through a season and he hasn't been dominant anyway. As I am typing this I am not sure why the Mets feel confident at all. The best you can do is make the wild card. No way you are beating out the Nationals. Mets have a two year window here before you lose your pitching and you won't pass the Nats. Yankess will have a two year window here to get through until we take over baseball again. We will compete for a wild card this year and next like you. So in our rebuild years we will compete for the same things you are at your peak. And make no mistake it is because your owners are cheap and losers and didn't go all in when you had the chance. Mets gonna Met.....
Really the only position you have us beat is starting pitching. Of course that is the most important spot so I will give you that. However, can you stay healthy. Matz and Harvey have proven they can't. If they don't come back healthy then the Yankees are better. Harvey stunk before he got hurt so there is a good chance he will stink again this season. Matz hasn't come close to making it through a season and he hasn't been dominant anyway. As I am typing this I am not sure why the Mets feel confident at all. The best you can do is make the wild card. No way you are beating out the Nationals. Mets have a two year window here before you lose your pitching and you won't pass the Nats. Yankess will have a two year window here to get through until we take over baseball again. We will compete for a wild card this year and next like you. So in our rebuild years we will compete for the same things you are at your peak. And make no mistake it is because your owners are cheap and losers and didn't go all in when you had the chance. Mets gonna Met.....
lol you're rly complaining about your division before the season even starts. Wow you play in the al east. Only the Red Sox have won the World Series from your division in the last 23 years, (besides the Yankees) meanwhile over that same quarter century the mets have had 3 teams win in it there division, Braves, Phillies and Marlins twice. Over the last 25 years both the mets and Yankees division mates have won 4 World Series, you sound like a delusional cry baby no one complains about the schedule in baseball, just beat the teams from your division you big baby, wow you've had 3 good teams in your division the last 3 years so what, happened to the mets too, you're not worthy of a World Series or saying your team is great if you can't finish top 3 in your own division.
Walker didn't stink before he got hurt what are you talking about, ya the catcher sucks
Lol your owners suck at baseball George's sons are nothing compared to George it's a different game today you can't just throw money at everyone and win, you actually need skill, Yankees will finish 3rd in their division again
You aren't seriously arguing that the braves marlins and Phillies are better than the orioles and bluejays, right? You sound out of your mind..these posts you're making are becoming more and more of a joke. Have fun following baseball from fantasy land..everyone on these forums can see your knowledge of the game is lacking. That argument is simply demented.
ya they're better this season and the last few so what.... No other team in baseball makes excuses about their schedule besides the stankees fans. Between your excuses for ash and the Yankees we should just call u excuse them all
It just fits your argument to argue this way because the Mets are in one of the easiest divisions in baseball (probably the weakest). Seriously though..your wit..just razor sharp. How can I ever recover from these insults. I feel as depressed as if I were a Mets fan. This isn't even fun for me..arguing with a Mets fan is like making fun of a child with disability..at this point I just feel bad.
Again, we were one of the hottest team after the trade deadline. With young talent. Amd we simply added higher rated talent to Our farm. Our future is extremely bright. In two years, what will you have when you are back to having 0 farm system and your mlb players leave? What's your plan for reloading? What is your game plan? The Yankees game plan is very evident..Mets...not so much.
Yeah but the braves, marlins, and Phillies won the World Series twenty years ago.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Good luck with the poster known as formerlyknown. He's straight from fantasyland.
When the Yankees made the playoffs, only to get shut out in the wild-card game it was a joke.
When the mets made the playoffs, only to get shut out in the wild-card game it was some kind a accomplishment.
Give him a break though. 1986 was SOOOOO long ago. It's gotta be painful for mets fans.
Wah wah we had such a good record after the break. Ya the mets are so screwed with the best young pitching staff in baseball. When we make the playoffs Again this year and you don't I can't wait to hear your crying about sos, when you finish 3rd in the division
No you're not screwed with your pitching this year..again well see if they stay healthy and if Harvey remembers how to pitch. You're screwed in two years if you haven't won anything, your players leave, and your farm system is dogshit (it's already at that level and two drafts with middle of the road picks won't change that). We don't have to win it all this year. We are young and we have a plan. When we do make a run though, well have plenty of control because we have the prospects to move for more pieces. See how this works? You're all in for the next two years and you better pray you win it all. After that, you'll be terrible.
Walker was really bad before he got hurt. He started out hot and then was epically bad. He is not on Castros level.
As far as not being able to throw money at it. I agree to a certain extent which is why we have built a top 3 farm system with guys projected for the bigs in 2018. Maybe you missed all the young studs we have.
However, I wish I could save your post for the 2018 free agency season when we sign 3 or four studs to go with our young guys. Let's see how you feel about not being able to throw money at it then.
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