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OT: Electric vehicles

I'm sure those purpose-built vehicles are no match for Teslas, though.
 
That's just a Tesla driving through water that's maybe half-tire height. That video is terrible.
 

Lower-income areas continue to have less access to public chargers​

"Lower-income areas in largely Black and Hispanic California neighborhoods continue to be significantly less likely to have access to public chargers, a February study by researchers at California's Humboldt State University found."
WHAT?
They also have less access to maid service, half acre lots, day spas, doormen, landscaping and pool services. Do you really think they require access to public chargers? Are they driving around in Tesla's?
Sorry for the rant, now back to the EV thread.
 

Lower-income areas continue to have less access to public chargers​

"Lower-income areas in largely Black and Hispanic California neighborhoods continue to be significantly less likely to have access to public chargers, a February study by researchers at California's Humboldt State University found."
WHAT?
They also have less access to maid service, half acre lots, day spas, doormen, landscaping and pool services. Do you really think they require access to public chargers? Are they driving around in Tesla's?
Sorry for the rant, now back to the EV thread.

Yikes ...that's almost as dickish as the time you hoarded limited-supply medication as a "just in case" for Covid.
 

Lower-income areas continue to have less access to public chargers​

"Lower-income areas in largely Black and Hispanic California neighborhoods continue to be significantly less likely to have access to public chargers, a February study by researchers at California's Humboldt State University found."
WHAT?
They also have less access to maid service, half acre lots, day spas, doormen, landscaping and pool services. Do you really think they require access to public chargers? Are they driving around in Tesla's?
Sorry for the rant, now back to the EV thread.
The goal is yes... anyone driving a car would be driving an EV. Now... back to being your dickish self elsewhere.
 
Yikes ...that's almost as dickish as the time you hoarded limited-supply medication as a "just in case" for Covid.
The meds were prescribed by a relative who is a doctor and were not requested by me. At the time they were not in limited supply. The drug was being used in hospitals to treat Covid patients at the time and that is why the supply became drastically reduced.
 
Speaking of EVs and Germany ...the IAA Mobility show (Munich) will be worth watching. Opens to press on Monday and will have some interesting EV car and concept debuts. I know Porsche has an EV concept planned, and I believe Merc has something.

Actually looks like a nice upgrade vs canceled Frankfurt auto show, which was once largest in the world and always a solid (but too g'dam spread out) show.
 
It’s so fast that it just crashed into a house killing two. Tesla needs to improve on styling and interior finishes. The 0 to 60 time sells to a different clientele.
 
So what happens to all these batteries once they are officially out of commission? You can’t just recycle them and you can just put them in a landfill.
has there been any thought to that by Tesla?
 
So what happens to all these batteries once they are officially out of commission? You can’t just recycle them and you can just put them in a landfill.
has there been any thought to that by Tesla?

Battery Recycling​

Tesla cars are designed to last, but if needed, Tesla Service Centers are able to help get you back on the road.

What happens to Tesla battery packs once they reach their end of life?
Unlike fossil fuels, which release harmful emissions into the atmosphere that are not recovered for reuse, materials in a Tesla lithium-ion battery are recoverable and recyclable. Battery materials are refined and put into a cell, and will still remain in the cell at the end of their life, when they can be recycled to recover its valuable materials for reuse over and over again.

Extending the life of a battery pack is a superior option to recycling for both environmental and business reasons. For those reasons, before decommissioning a consumer battery pack and sending it for recycling, Tesla does everything it can to extend the useful life of each battery pack. Any battery that is no longer meeting a customer’s needs can be serviced by Tesla at one of our service centers around the world. None of our scrapped lithium-ion batteries go to landfilling, and 100% are recycled.

Lithium-ion battery packs should only be handled by qualified professionals at specifically designated facilities. The applicable rules and regulations for battery management vary by region and must always be followed.

If a Tesla battery pack needs attention, please contact us.
 
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Good work by Bryan and Jen. The video was posted today. But when did the car fire actually occur? What as the cause, I wonder? I cannot find any recent news stories about the car fire. Is this something that happened years ago?

Of course the video is not just reporting what happened, but is trying to sell a narrative (and/or counter another narrative). There's this premise in the video and commentary on YouTube about people saying ICEs are less prone to fire than EVs? Who actually says that?

Of course both ICEs and EVs can catch fire (or explode). It would be dumb to suggest otherwise.
 
Good work by Bryan and Jen. The video was posted today. But when did the car fire actually occur? What as the cause, I wonder? I cannot find any recent news stories about the car fire. Is this something that happened years ago?

Of course the video is not just reporting what happened, but is trying to sell a narrative (and/or counter another narrative). There's this premise in the video and commentary on YouTube about people saying ICEs are less prone to fire than EVs? Who actually says that?

Of course both ICEs and EVs can catch fire (or explode). It would be dumb to suggest otherwise.

Fear of battery fire is definitely an argument used against EVs, just like range anxiety.
 
See the graph on the front page of the WSJ showing a spike in energy prices in Europe due to a lack of wind in the North Sea? And just as Germany has had to increase their use of coal despite installing more wind and solar because they shut down their nukes the UK has had to fire back up some coal and gas. EVs are as green as their sources of energy. And if you have to use coal because you've closed down your natural gas and nukes and you likely have insufficient storage capability for the next 15 years that's not very green.
 
Surprised none of the Tesla bots posted about the Model S Plaid EV 'Ring record.
 
Fear of battery fire is definitely an argument used against EVs, just like range anxiety.
Fear of fire and anxiety over range seem silly to me. All EVs and ICEs can catch fire. But as the technologies mature, those sorts of things get ironed out and become rare. It's possible, and I suppose EV tech is relatively new as compared to ICE tech. But catching fire is still, so far as I understand, not very likely in either case.

With range, it's a valid issue to consider for potential purchasers. But being anxious about it is silly. If no EVs meet the purchasers range requirements yet, then wait. EVs will meet and likely exceed people's range requirements in the not too distant future. Nothing to be anxious about.
 
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See the graph on the front page of the WSJ showing a spike in energy prices in Europe due to a lack of wind in the North Sea? And just as Germany has had to increase their use of coal despite installing more wind and solar because they shut down their nukes the UK has had to fire back up some coal and gas. EVs are as green as their sources of energy. And if you have to use coal because you've closed down your natural gas and nukes and you likely have insufficient storage capability for the next 15 years that's not very green.

Europe has a big energy problem because of the need to import Russian gas. The solution to integrating renewables is for advances in energy storage. And the so-called "smart" grid.
 
Fear of battery fire is definitely an argument used against EVs, just like range anxiety.
I have range anxiety and the struggle is real. My Model 3 arrived a month ahead of schedule and every electrician in NJ is working on storm repair so I still don't have an in-home charging option. Small hiccup in the grand scheme of things lol.
 
I have range anxiety and the struggle is real. My Model 3 arrived a month ahead of schedule and every electrician in NJ is working on storm repair so I still don't have an in-home charging option. Small hiccup in the grand scheme of things lol.

Ha, that would certainly do it.

No fast-charging around?
 
Fear of fire and anxiety over range seem silly to me. All EVs and ICEs can catch fire. But as the technologies mature, those sorts of things get ironed out and become rare. It's possible, and I suppose EV tech is relatively new as compared to ICE tech. But catching fire is still, so far as I understand, not very likely in either case.

With range, it's a valid issue to consider for potential purchasers. But being anxious about it is silly. If no EVs meet the purchasers range requirements yet, then wait. EVs will meet and likely exceed people's range requirements in the not too distant future. Nothing to be anxious about.

Goddamn ...are you always so literal 😜

No non-EV owner is sitting up sweating through the night about it, but it's a concern - irrational in many cases - that prevents people from buying EVs to begin with. The anxiety is what they're avoiding, not so much what they're experiencing.

An EV would work exceptionally well for me - I could even charge it for free - 98 percent of the time, but that other 2 percent of driving into destination-less nowhere will absolutely prevent me from getting an EV as my primary until range increases to more like 500 miles. Also some other things I'm waiting on, like a proper-size truck bed and aftermarket.
 
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Goddamn ...are you always so literal 😜

No non-EV owner is sitting up sweating through the night about it, but it's a concern - irrational in many cases - that prevents people from buying EVs to begin with. The anxiety is what they're avoiding, not so much what they're experiencing.

An EV would work exceptionally well for me - I could even charge it for free - 98 percent of the time, but that other 2 percent of driving into destination-less nowhere will absolutely prevent me from getting an EV as my primary until range increases to more like 500 miles. Also some other things I'm waiting on, like a proper-size truck bed and aftermarket.
My bad, sorry. I really don’t mean to be so literal. I’m just awful with ambiguity and am forever trying to nail down the terms and clarify stuff.
 
Because it's national news whenever a Tesla is involved in an accident, the uninformed general public has the wrong idea about the safety of EVs. This dipshit had the balls to unplug someone's car while charging and then taped this ridiculous note to their car.

Story: "Concerned Resident" unplugs charging Tesla


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i'm optimistic and looking forward to both of these.
 
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I have range anxiety and the struggle is real. My Model 3 arrived a month ahead of schedule and every electrician in NJ is working on storm repair so I still don't have an in-home charging option. Small hiccup in the grand scheme of things lol.

Have you been using a wall charger? Supercharger station?
 
Because it's national news whenever a Tesla is involved in an accident, the uninformed general public has the wrong idea about the safety of EVs. This dipshit had the balls to unplug someone's car while charging and then taped this ridiculous note to their car.

Story: "Concerned Resident" unplugs charging Tesla


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Wondering how someone pulled the plug out of the charging port without damaging the equipment.
 
Europe has a big energy problem because of the need to import Russian gas. The solution to integrating renewables is for advances in energy storage. And the so-called "smart" grid.

And there's no Moore's Law for storage. So the idea that it's going to be put place in sufficient capacity to make ICE transport obsolete in 15 years is folly.
 
Post at 1:42 and at 2:05 the electrician calls to schedule me for tomorrow. Problem solved. I've been supercharging at various places- Wawa/Quickcheck, shopping center, etc. Not very difficult, but ready to be able to plug in at night and not think about it.
Why haven't you been doing 110V at home? I know it's not ideal, but it does get the job done..... eventually
 
And there's no Moore's Law for storage. So the idea that it's going to be put place in sufficient capacity to make ICE transport obsolete in 15 years is folly.
Solar & wind + stationary storage is the cheapest form of energy NOW.

As far as capacity...do we have to talk about exponential growth again?
 
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i'm optimistic and looking forward to both of these.
It is impossible for synthetic fuels to ever be cost competitive with solar and battery. Small scale for racing circuits, great, but it's a non starter for mass consumption.
 
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