Just hope you don't wreck your Tesla.
Unit body construction has escalated collision repair costs astronomically. The more a car is of a piece, the more disposable it becomes in the event of collision damage.
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Just hope you don't wreck your Tesla.
Unit body construction has escalated collision repair costs astronomically. The more a car is of a piece, the more disposable it becomes in the event of collision damage.
It's the fanboy syndrome. Which is a where people develop an blindly obsessive, excessive, cult-like attachment to a product, person, company, etc. It's becoming more common and more obsessive.
I suspect cable TV first, and subsequently the internet, are largely to blame for the normalization of such aberrant, unhealthy, and IMO, undignified behavior. The state of the art in marketing techniques now leverages 24/7 communication to bombard people. It's a massive and extremely well-funded effort to manipulate all of us all the time for somebody else's profit.
Some people are more susceptible to such brainwashing than others. The insidious thing about it is that we often don't know it when it affects us. How many choices do we make in our daily lives that are driven not by our preferences so much as by the often very subtle marketing techniques we're constantly subjecting ourselves to? I'd like to think I do a good job of avoiding it, but the reality is that it's very hard for any of us to recognize it when it happens to us.
I'm constantly on guard to avoid allowing such marketing to affect me. But I think it's unavoidable, at some level. I'm certain it guides my purchasing decisions, as it does all of us.
However, that's where it ends for me. I refuse to become an undignified, unpaid, brainwashed shill for any product or person, brand, corporation, political party, etc.
I get that but I'm sure a lot of people were surprised when they couldn't control the heat in their own house.
I don't think the product is what matters here. It's the type of marketing for the product and the sub-culture that sometimes evolves due to that marketing.
The Dr. Seuss Sneetches story is, in part, an object lesson in the mindlessness of some people in the face of intense marketing that seeks to use those people to leverage peer pressure to build a cultural phenomenon around a product or brand. Apple was, relatively briefly I think, successful at doing that. Tesla is trying to do the same now.
A critical element of the type of marketing I'm talking about is that it not only tries to convince you how good the product is, it seeks to build a sub-culture around the notion that every other competing product is shit. If you don't have a star on your belly, then you suck. But don't worry, the great news is we'll sell you a star for a bunch of money. Then you can be one of the cool kids, too.
Apple fanboys played right into that. As are some Tesla fanboys now.
Hm. Well, okay. If you say so. I think maybe your posting history in these threads tells another story. But perhaps I'm wrong.
I think nuclear will see a pretty big resurgence between now and whenever we figure out something more efficient. But I wouldn't be unhappy to discover I'm wrong about that.
Too expensive. The experiences in South Carolina and Georgia are not encouraging for the future of nukes.
Like every other technology, nuclear has and will continue to improve. And while I'd prefer to not use it, I believe there will a period in which it's unavoidable, regardless of the expense.
But we're talking about the future. So it's all just guesswork. So many things can happen between now and even next year, technologically, that it's impossible to be certain of much of anything. And at some point soon, the so-called Singularity, or something like it, will absolutely occur. We're racing towards it.
What happens next is anybody's guess. But it'll be a wild ride. I hope I'm still around to witness it.
There's a major difference in cost between new construction and shutting an operating plant down before the end of it's useful life, like Indian Point.
South Carolina's utility cancelled the plant under construction after spending $9 billion. A staggering sum of money.
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A former official for the contractor hired to build two South Carolina nuclear reactors that were never completed has pleaded guilty to lying to federal authorities.
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South Carolina's utility cancelled the plant under construction after spending $9 billion. A staggering sum of money.
3rd guilty plea in South Carolina nuclear project failure
A former official for the contractor hired to build two South Carolina nuclear reactors that were never completed has pleaded guilty to lying to federal authorities.
Under construction does NOT = operating. Indian Point came on line in the 70's and had about 15 years of remaining useful life. You know, the period where storage is theoretically being built up for other, alternative, sources of power.
"Depending on your configuration, different upgrades will be available for your car and will automatically appear in your Tesla Account for purchase. These upgrades do not require a service visit and can simply be purchased with a payment method on file. "
From Tesla's own web site.
If the frame of a vehicle is damaged, it's most likely a total loss.
A stiffer underbody improves safety and reduces cabin intrusion. That's the only thing I'm thinking about.
Full-size pickups and a couple of SUVs notwithstanding, vehicles don't have "frames" anymore.
You suck at cars. And yet... you persist in tilting at the windmills in this thread.
You know exactly what I'm talking about and I'm correct. That wasn't your point anyway, right? You suck at debating.
You would be much better off if you didn't continuously say the wrong thing and subsequently claim that people "know what (you're) talking about".
The point is simple - large, stamped structural members cannot be repaired. Insurance rates for these vehicles will be larger than a regular unit body vehicle.
Rocking down to Electric Avenue? Good luck charging your car
European and U.S. cities planning to phase out combustion engines over the next 15 years first need to plug a charging gap for millions of residents who park their cars on the street.
www.reuters.com
growing pains.
Rocking down to Electric Avenue? Good luck charging your car
European and U.S. cities planning to phase out combustion engines over the next 15 years first need to plug a charging gap for millions of residents who park their cars on the street.
growing pains.
But hybrids are evil! Don't you know that? Shut down ICE cars NOW!!! Greta's going to debut a Fred Flintstonemobile and HOW DARE YOU not convert instantly!!!!!
Edited to add: Or we can fire up more coal generators so all the woke can charge their zero emission vehicles.
I think we can create more power generation and storage eventually...however, I think that the last mile delivery of electricity to cars parked on public streets is going to be a much hairier problem. Not sure how you would accomplish this in NYC, Philly, Chicago, SF, etc. on a wide enough scale where people don't start getting into physical altercations over a charger.
I hadn’t even considered all the people who live in apartment complexes, condominium complexes, or who park in the street. Definitely a long way to go infrastructure-wise.Rocking down to Electric Avenue? Good luck charging your car
European and U.S. cities planning to phase out combustion engines over the next 15 years first need to plug a charging gap for millions of residents who park their cars on the street.
growing pains.
I pointed this out this past spring but the woke paid no attention. I live in an 86 unit condo where half the parking is covered adjoining the building and half in a lot across the street. The covered area is lit, but would need a major upgrade to be able to charge 40 EVs. Across the street there are a few telephone poles with spotlights but no other infrastructure whatsoever. There are parking spaces literally 30 yards from any source of electricity. Now I realize the woke fairy will drop by some night and magically install the necessary infrastructure to do this but it may be 2040 before it happens.
And then we can start talking about people who park on the streets.
I remember that, and I did agree with you, but the Teslarati over here think that it will just magically happen and that we're grumpy luddites who don't believe in progress.
Computers? Technology? Who needs it! 😡
I could do it faster with a shoe-box and index cards. Now get off my lawn you kids!
Europe's carmakers face raw material bottleneck for EV batteries
Major carmakers like Volkswagen , Daimler and Stellantis have been racing to secure battery cell supplies in Europe, but may face a bigger challenge as they seek to go electric - finding enough battery raw materials.
www.reuters.com
Also mentioned in the past I believe...raw materials are going to be hard to come by in the quantities required for accelerated EV adoption
If you know people who have run into some credit issues—
I am 54 years old. When I was a kid there were five television stations I could watch in Northern NJ. When I went to college I brought a typewriter and several boxes of whiteout so I could do my homework and write my papers. When I started my professional career if my beeper went off I would pull the car over to a pay phone so I could get in touch with the office or a client.
My kid is now a sophomore in college. When she is my age what percentage of cars on the road do you think will be ICE v EV? The idea that condos or apartments will be a constraint on EV adoption because there is no way we can get charging stations proximate to EV car owners who live in apartments or condos is laughable. The automotive industry is an $82B market. You really don't think they are going to figure this out in the next decade?
My kid is now a sophomore in college. When she is my age what percentage of cars on the road do you think will be ICE v EV? The idea that condos or apartments will be a constraint on EV adoption because there is no way we can get charging stations proximate to EV car owners who live in apartments or condos is laughable. The automotive industry is an $82B market. You really don't think they are going to figure this out in the next decade?
Rocking down to Electric Avenue? Good luck charging your car
European and U.S. cities planning to phase out combustion engines over the next 15 years first need to plug a charging gap for millions of residents who park their cars on the street.
growing pains.
Getting gasoline in a big city is also a pain in the ass. The article didn't even mention the Tesla Supercharger network, a big omission. Also, chargers are increasingly popping up at destinations - office parks, train stations, grocery stores, shopping centers. There are also a plethora of companies popping up to fill this void.
To wit, Plug Power up 12% today.
Getting gasoline in the city, while also a pain in the ass, requires that someone go to a gas station and fill up in 5 mins. Having EV chargers at street level is more complicated because people with cars in the city can and will park and leave their cars in the same spot for days...until alternate side of the street parking rules apply. You need significantly more chargers to service urban areas. Very few people on the UWS are going to say "gee, i need to charge my car today, so let me drive to Queens to a mall that has a supercharger in its parking deck." unless Tesla is going to put superchargers everywhere like parking meters, it's going to be a challenge. suburban areas will be fine and will be the leaders in adoption because of the availability of space for charging stations and garages/parking lots that can accommodate.
Actually there were seven, 2,4,5,7,9,11 and 13. And that doesn't even count the a couple of UHF channels. Remember them? 😉
When your daughter is your age it will be roughly 2055. The Tesleratti and the woke want this done by 2030 or 2035 at the latest. That's 20-25 years more time to convert. I'm not sure what the percentage will be in 2055 but my guess is EV technology will be dominant. What I guarantee is the % will be significantly larger than in 2030.
I think EV NEW car sales will exceed ICE new car sales in the next decade or so. but to be fully EV, it will take at least another decade beyond that for the ICE vehicles to age out and die. people keep their cars for longer now and there is a robust used car market that will continue to have ICE cars dominate.
No one is making you buy an EV, much less worry about finding a street-level charger for your flat in Islington. Why devote so much energy to a technology you don't care for?
unlike you, i'm a car enthusiast. and i'm not against EV's. i'll eventually buy an EV or two. and i'm always interested in the business side of things...
apologies for pissing in your wheaties, but your enthusiasm for tesla is cute and all, but the real world adoption of EV's is a monumental undertaking, requiring a whole lot of infrastructure to be built, retrofitting existing places and things, and a rethinking and implementation of new ways of living. None of this comes easily. So as fast as the technology of EV's wants to run, there is a lot of external factors that factor into the full on adoption. Just trying to be realistic about it here.
that, and your teslarati brethren are fun to wind up. your devotion to elon is borderline insane. there are plenty of other companies doing cool things and building up their EV portfolios and moving the technology along, but you sheep want to think that other companies can't figure EV's out and Elon is going to take over the world.
