I wouldn't care if you used 2 cans and a string.
Yeah as I was typing that I realized it's not really an apples to apples comparison, I was just making a light-hearted attempt to get back on topic here. By the time we hit that point, whenever it may be, I imagine a big reason for it will be because EVs will become more affordable and driving an ICE vehicle wouldn't even make sense from a personal finance perspective anymore.
At some point, I'm sure I'll have an EV SUV to go with some ICE sports cars and perhaps an ICE SUV. And I'll never look down on anybody for their choice in cars or car propulsion technology, or cell phones.
When you consider the cost of ownership, we might be there already. I'm saving ~$100/month in gas + very little service/maintenance costs w/ EVs.
True, I think the initial purchase is still a financial obstacle for many though.
The average price is about $50,000 dollars. Most people at this point can't afford that. A loan for that amount could take 10 years to pay off for most people, IF they are lucky.
The average price of a new ICE vehicle is almost 50k also. The price difference is narrowing. The automakers are starting to address the lower end of the EV price range now, with some starting in the upper 20s and low 30s.
If you're in that demographic, need to think smaller or think used. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
If Tesla is not interested in selling to various income levels, that is true. Not all car companies are—Jaguar, Rolls, Mercedes, etc. I think I read somewhere that Volkswagen May only make expensive cars in the future too.
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Ford is trying to sell a $20k maverick - the dealers are selling them for 30k. The dealer network is a big big problem for ford. I agree with your second point - The company that can make a profitable 30K electric will sell as many as they can make. Tesla clearly can do it right now but they have 6 - 9 month waiting lists for the model Y/3. Just does not make sense for them right now - especially with 31% gross margins on the current vehicles.
Yawn - I will believe it when I see it. Another desperate measure by a late to the game company. Kind of like GM spending millions on a super bowl commercial for an all-electric Silverado - which they wont be even making until 2024.
Jeep Has an April Surprise for Tesla, Ford, Rivian and GM
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Even if you were able to order one online the final price is still set by the dealer. If you paid MSRP you are lucky - that is the exception. Very very few dealers are selling even ordered Mavs for MSRP - a $5000 to $8000 markup is common. Ford is trying to stop the practice and even sent a letter out with some strong language - but at the end of the day the dealer can price it any way they want. It is a big reason why ford is splitting the company into an ICE division and an Electric division. Many think they are positioning themselves to sell their electric vehicles direct to consumers.
The machine that makes the machine.
That’s all BS made up by Tesla fan clubs. It’s been stated here many times already. if you order the car, you get it for MSRP. If a dealer has one on the lot due to cancellation and you want to drive it off the lot same day, it will cost you a premium. Tesla was pulling the same BS by offering faster delivery if people to buy FSD (10K Feature) until they got called out.
As with almost everything you have posted in this thread you are wrong. This info did not come from any Tesla site nor am I a tesla fanboy, Take a look at the Long MacAthur Ford youtube channel. They are a large dealership out west and have done an extensive number of videos on ordering a Maverick (when you still could). Really informative and you will learn what really is going on at most dealerships.
Or you can ask someone on this board that bought a Maverick and get his take? Just saying.
i don’t get these off-road vehicles touting 0-60 time. I’m going to take the over on number of these flipping over.Jeep Has an April Surprise for Tesla, Ford, Rivian and GM
Jeep has missed the first electrification train. Most importantly, they have managed to establish themselves in the conversations of consumers wondering if their next vehicle purchase should be an electric vehicle. For those who have decided, they have, for the moment, opted for Ford , which...
You'd be wrong....again. Heaviest part of the vehicle (battery pack) is less than a foot off the ground. Physics.
not reall, because real off-road vehicles use 38 tires so its not a ”foot“ off the ground. Did you see the specs on that Jeep?
I did. The battery pack will still be relatively low to the ground making rollovers unlikely.
You mean it‘s less likely than an off-road ICE vehicle with the same basic proportions. The location of weight in the vehicle is only one variable. There are many variables involved in determining absolute probability of an off-roading rollover.
