How the hell was he clutch in the Miami game? He threw for 84 yds on 7/15 and ran for 9 yds. on 9 car.. What was clutch? Running it 2 times from the 1 for TD or running it 3 times from the 1 for TD?
OT: Gavin Wimsatt acclimating well to Kentucky Football
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"Great list, I wouldn't change anything in the order. I hope we pound Athan and Rutgers this season."
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Ha Ha Ha ! Noelar Bear, "This game might be one of the toughest for Rutgers this year. Their schedule is that easy." More like, Minnesota is one of the team's why it's considered easy."Great list, I wouldn't change anything in the order. I hope we pound Athan and Rutgers this season."
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Nope. That’s not ‘score a touchdown.’ Hope you learned something today.
His point total is zero.
He tush pushed his way to 2 TDs, especially the go ahead one. Also made key throws to facilitate the 2nd TD, especially a 23 yard completion to Dremel. So he was an important factor on 21 of the 31 points.
Running it 5 times to get 2 yds. is not clutch. You think Gavin's a good quarterback because he ran for 6 touchdowns from inside the 1. You act as if no one else on the team could have done that. Face it Al, you think he's a good QB because he rushed for 11 TD's and you based your findings on a misleading stat.
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He threw a touchdown pass. I see it in the stats. That means he scored a passing touchdown. It’s in the stats. The receiver also gets credits for a receiving TD. What am I missing?
Gaining 2 yards when everyone is expecting Rutgers to run is not easy. Gavin executed and got it done and that’s all that matters.
But it wasn’t even 2 consecutive yards. It was two separate instances of 1 yard or less. How often do you think a defense is successful in pulling off a goal line stand on 4 consecutive stuffs at the one yard line? You know the answer for most teams not named OSU, Alabama or Michigan is very rarely. So if forcing a FG there is really difficult for the D, the reverse must logically be true for the offense. Sure - crazy things happen - fumbles, etc. But the odds are very much in favor of the offense in this situation.
No, that’s not scoring. You said he scored. Totally wrong, and a bizarre view.
I was very bothered after his 1 series and TD pass that Schiano put his baby back in. It smelled of avoiding a QB controversy at the expense of possibly winning a few more games. Very disturbing, protecting his favorite player like that at a critical point in the game and season. Inexcusable and was one of the primary examples of why I think Schiano is quite lacking in the football IQ and in-game coaching realms. All in all, an average coach. Does less with more.
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Let’s poll the board. How many folks don’t consider a touchdown pass a score? My guess is your the only one who would say that’s a bizarre take.
LOL. Ok, poll away. Don’t weasel out with ambiguous wording. You claim Simon scored a TD. You must phrase it like that.
“Did Simon score a touchdown against Wisconsin ?” must be your poll.
I’m at a loss for words. I cannot believe anyone would think that. Simon absolutely did not score a touchdown.
“Did Simon score a touchdown against Wisconsin ?” must be your poll.
I’m at a loss for words. I cannot believe anyone would think that. Simon absolutely did not score a touchdown.
Sure - okay fine. Word it however you want. The stat book credits both the passer and the receiver with a TD. A TD is a type of score in football. I’m happy to agree that you could twist what I said in a pretzel and find a way to justify your original question but there is nothing remotely “bizarre” about what I posted. If anything - it’s bizarre that you doubled down on your argument with this.
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I didn’t think of this. Could definitely be the case. It’s preseason edited film. Meaningless.
Ha ha ha. no poll. Didn’t think so. I didn’t twist anything. You said Simon scored a touchdown. He absolutely did not.
A TD pass is not a touchdown. Period. Nor is a basketball assist counted as a score, which you must not know either.
The point is 100% of posters knew exactly what I meant in the original post. I said Evan only had one meaningful drive and he scored a TD. Had you simply responded - technically he “threw a TD” or “we scored a TD that Evan threw”, I would’ve just given you a thumbs up and that would’ve been that. Congrats on being unnecessarily obnoxious.
Yes, the offense had the advantage, but Gavin still got the job done in those situations.
Offenses with a blocking TE and WRs that cant catch contested balls means its either the RB or QB trying to score and defenses like the clarity. For many years RU specialized in RZ three and outs
Because you tripled down on wrong. Oooh, let’s do a poll to prove Shelby wrong. Oooh, the stats credit him with a a TD. That’s why the smackdown. You probably still think Simon scored a TD lolol.
Hands down this is the most absurd view about the game and stats on this site ever (Fieldhouse Al’s optimism is a separate category of stupid).
But, since you finally acknowledge being totally wrong, Shelby will move on.
No Shelby. I didn’t triple down on anything. You went out of your way to be obnoxious. Not me. The only point I was making with the poll was that I’m fairly certain everyone who read my post knew exactly what I meant. Most people think of the passing game with regard to QBs and scoring TDs. As I said before - I’d have had no problem if you felt the need to simply correct the technicality rather than be a jerk but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Thats why so many people have you on ignore.
I hadn’t opened this thread in about 5 days but I Keep seeing it at the top of the board. So I finally open it up thinking there has to be something good going on if we are stilll talking about Wimsatt. What a disaster. I wish I hadn’t wasted that time
In a game still can't hit the broadside of a barn - guess down there it would be a Jack Daniel's Aging Barn.
That makes a lot of sense. He’s a pretty good choice to come in for a few downs here and there. I could even see him catching a team by surprise with an occasional deep ball. Just not an every down QB unless he can fix the accuracy issues in the short and medium routes.
It could also mean that QB Vandergraff , who is the new assumed starter (from Florida, IIRC) is not all that far ahead of Wimsatt. We shall see.
What does this mean for Rutgers? Nada. I think we had to make a move.
Even if there are 10 worse QBs, that doesn't mean GW was good. That's poor logic.
Well done!
Lol! Nope!
KM made it look pretty damn easy vs. Miami and they knew he was going to get the rock plenty.
He did what he was assigned in our 7 wins. His 80 yard TD against Indiana and some big plays against MSU helped get us to the bowl. KM was the guy but Gavin did what was needed on the ground and sometimes in the air but not enough. Wish him well and thank him for being the QB who got us back on track.
Let's hope Athan can take the next step. We play against much softer Defensea this year so the table is set.
I really don't care at all about Kentucky but nice to see they're going to use Gavin. He's a great athlete.
Some of you ....let it go. He's gone. If you can't be man enough to admit he helped us get 7 wins at least be man enough to let it go.
Let's hope Athan can take the next step. We play against much softer Defensea this year so the table is set.
I really don't care at all about Kentucky but nice to see they're going to use Gavin. He's a great athlete.
Some of you ....let it go. He's gone. If you can't be man enough to admit he helped us get 7 wins at least be man enough to let it go.
I dont think anyone is saying he didn't help get us to 7 wins, obviously the QB plays a huge role in any win, but he also prevented us from getting to 8 or 9
Think I have most of the RU qbs since 2000. Dont think I can find 10. Which 10 would you pick?
McMahon, Hart, Teel, Rettig, Dodd, Nova, Laviano, Cubit, Lovelace, Simon, Sitkowski, Vedral, Snyder, Savage, Resigno, Langan or someone else I missed
It’s a fair point. Hart and Teel both better. Dodd, Savage, and Nova too. At least, I’d pick them. I don’t know that you can count Rettig as a starter. I wouldn’t pick him - I’d take Laviano ahead in a second though. He was simply not right for the system Ash wanted to run and our coordinator had no interest to adapting plans to the skills of the players on the roster. That was the worst managed season ever. I would take Gavin over Resigno. Basically a worse running version of him with opposite throwing ability. Could hit the shorter throws though not necessarily in stride. Had no arm strength. Langan doesn’t count as Sit quit on the team - he was a boot leg starter. I’d probably take Sit over Gavin too. That one close.
Are we really hyping Gavin's Pinstripe bowl performance based on stats of:
Passing: 7 for 15, 84 yards
Rushing: 9 attempts, 9 yards, 2 TDs
Taking a closer look at the rushing TDs:
First possession of the game - it took GW three tries to get in from the 1.
First drive of 4th quarter - it took him two attempts to get in from the 1, after Monangai ran the ball 4x in a row to pick up 64 yards and get us to the 1.
Yeah, that looks irreplaceable.
Gavin, thanks for QBing us to a bowl and winning it. But c'mon, the guy is wildly inaccurate and this year's ceiling is higher with AK.
Passing: 7 for 15, 84 yards
Rushing: 9 attempts, 9 yards, 2 TDs
Taking a closer look at the rushing TDs:
First possession of the game - it took GW three tries to get in from the 1.
First drive of 4th quarter - it took him two attempts to get in from the 1, after Monangai ran the ball 4x in a row to pick up 64 yards and get us to the 1.
Yeah, that looks irreplaceable.
Gavin, thanks for QBing us to a bowl and winning it. But c'mon, the guy is wildly inaccurate and this year's ceiling is higher with AK.
Miami had 11th best rushing defense in the nation - better than Auburn, GA and Rutgers.
Schiano used the rugby style (maul) tush-push with GW
Its typical Schiano - no risky hand-offs and in event of a fumble it would be practically impossible for Miami to recover.
At 6' 3" with long arms, GW also had longer reach than 5' 9" Mon.
In the game of inches GW wins - and in safer way (GS loves that)
Pacheco only has 7 TD in his best season.
He has 5 and 3 in last two seasons.
RU is not a RB scoring machine (since Rice anyway)
That Miami defense was not on the field when they played us.
Cubit , Schwenk , natale , langan , bolin, Carter , Lewis, Simon , Sitkowski, Trump.
10
That’s without getting into some of the other guys that Gavin had more success than or some lousy backups that played like Allen and Odin .
Correct. It doesn’t mean he was good . Just means he was good by rutgers lowly standards . Our history and track record do quarterbacks stinks
