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What happened with Rice had NOTHING to do with Rutgers...what happened at Baylor is ALL on Baylor...it is actually quite easy to differentiate the two...
Sorry to inform you, but there has never been proof of a cover-up at Penn State University over the former coach who was convicted of child molestation through his own non-for profit organization (2nd mile) and allegedly on campus at PSU years after being a coach. If anyone has taken the time to read the Freeh report findings about the alleged cover-up, you'd realize the evidence is beyond weak and based on some far reaching/stretch conclusions that only Louis Freeh can understand. Why do you think the NCAA has already dropped it's sanctions ? They had no basis for the sanctions and needed to back off while they could. While the charges against Spanier (pres), Curley (AD), Shultz likely will never even make it to trial from the lack of evidence against them, we'll let the judiciary system play out the way it's supposed to in this country. This doesn't absolve Jerry Sandusky, who was a monster that preyed on innocent victims and kept those around him and closest to him in the dark, which typifies the profile of a pedophile to a tee. And for those who claim that you, or others would have known about it and done something about it, good luck to you because pedophilia goes on undetected all the time and perhaps the best lesson from this happening in State College, Pa. by a former PSU employee/coach, is some much needed education to the public about this sick, perverted criminal behavior.This is the only university that would give State Penn a run for their money in terms of unscrupulous cover-ups, so no surprise here.
Baylor University basketball scandal
so your asking me to not bring it up, but then go on to add your opinion as to how it shoulda went down? SMH... but anyways I really could care less about who did or didn't do what the right way... my point (which seems to have gotten lost here) is that this was never a SCANDAL!!! nothing was ever COVERED UP!! (unlike Baylor, which is looking more and more like one big cover-up)... Rice was dealt with at the time (obviously HINDSIGHT BIAS shows not harshly enough) and corrective action was taken as to NOT enable the behaviors exhibited by Rice to happen again!! (hell even the sentencing of this Baylor kid reeks) but because there was 10 seconds of video, what happened with Rutgers is far far worse than what happened at Baylor? sad!!!
I think you need to learn how to critically analyze language a little bit. I never asked you to not bring it up. I and most of the rest of the world happen to have a very different opinion on the situation, so I expressed that opinion, as well as some facts you seem to have conveniently ignored. Like Rutgers not releasing the video as soon as was practical, along with firing Rice, which is what anyone in senior management must do in a situation like this one, regardless of financial impact - it's simply the right thing to do, to remove an abusive manager with nearly unlimited power over the group he leads.
Not making that move is on Pernetti and Barchi and Pernetti paid the price for his mistake (Barchi mostly escaped on this one). Having said that, the seriousness of the Rice situation certainly pales in comparison to the Briles situation (apparently - jury is still out) or Paterno/Sandusky/PSU situation (we actually agree on that - I have no idea why you thought I thought the RU situation was worse), but make no mistake RU did practice full disclosure of damaging information, i.e., we covered the situation up with regard to the video. As you noted, however, we did institute a number of corrective actions, but as was borne out in the scandal, those meant nothing when compared to our mishandling of the video.
Sorry to inform you, but there has never been proof of a cover-up at Penn State University over the former coach who was convicted of child molestation through his own non-for profit organization (2nd mile) and allegedly on campus at PSU years after being a coach. If anyone has taken the time to read the Freeh report findings about the alleged cover-up, you'd realize the evidence is beyond weak and based on some far reaching/stretch conclusions that only Louis Freeh can understand. Why do you think the NCAA has already dropped it's sanctions ? They had no basis for the sanctions and needed to back off while they could. While the charges against Spanier (pres), Curley (AD), Shultz likely will never even make it to trial from the lack of evidence against them, we'll let the judiciary system play out the way it's supposed to in this country. This doesn't absolve Jerry Sandusky, who was a monster that preyed on innocent victims and kept those around him and closest to him in the dark, which typifies the profile of a pedophile to a tee. And for those who claim that you, or others would have known about it and done something about it, good luck to you because pedophilia goes on undetected all the time and perhaps the best lesson from this happening in State College, Pa. by a former PSU employee/coach, is some much needed education to the public about this sick, perverted criminal behavior.
Sorry, but your point was to use this situation as an excuse to rehash that you thought Rice didn't do anything that bad, which is why I argued with you. If you had simply said this scandal isn't getting much media play compared to the Rice situation, I would have simply agreed with you (although I do think this could be just as big, even without a video, since it's worse behavior we're talking about).look #'s I really don't wanna argue over this... my point was not to rehash an old argument, just to point out that what is looking to be a major scandal isn't getting much media play compared to the Rice situation...
Sorry, but your point was to use this situation as an excuse to rehash that you thought Rice didn't do anything that bad, which is why I argued with you. If you had simply said this scandal isn't getting much media play compared to the Rice situation, I would have simply agreed with you (although I do think this could be just as big, even without a video, since it's worse behavior we're talking about).
#'s...seriously? Now you're gonna tell me what my point was, by attributing statements to me that I never made? Child Please!!
I refuse to call it a scandal as his behavior was dealt with and NOT allowed to continue.
...but sorry, it was dealt with the first time!! Pernetti did not try to cover it up...He punished Rice and made sure that corrective action was taken with regards to how Rice ran his practices
I'd take him as OC in a heartbeat. Don't let him run your program just let him run your O.The sad thing is if Briles does get fired, more than half of the members on this board will cry to hire Briles over whoever our coach is at that time.
And that's the sad part about college sports. As long as you win someone will want you. Thats why Briles took this criminal as a player. Thats why Briles still has a job. Thats why Briles will get another job if he gets fired.
Winners are wanted, even if they're criminals.
I never thought Rice did anything that bad. A 6'10 kid is sad because someone yelled at him and threw a bball at his feet? The thing that always annoyed me about the Rice scandal is all these kids visited practices while being recruited. They knew what they were signing on to. I get that in today's world this behavior is unacceptable but let's not make believe he was torturing these kids. I had HS coaches say and do far worse at a catholic school.Sorry, but your point was to use this situation as an excuse to rehash that you thought Rice didn't do anything that bad, which is why I argued with you. If you had simply said this scandal isn't getting much media play compared to the Rice situation, I would have simply agreed with you (although I do think this could be just as big, even without a video, since it's worse behavior we're talking about).
I'm just saying your two posts from earlier in the thread certainly seem to say, that you didn't think there was any "scandal" and that things had been "dealt with," both of which tell me you thought Rice didn't do anything that bad. This will settle it: do you think RIce's behavior warranted him being fired or not? If yes, I'll apologize for misinterpreting your statements and shut up about it. If no, then I'll continue to argue that I think you're horribly wrong.
How in the world did the kid get charged with sexual assault AND NONE OF THE LOCAL WACO MEDIA REPORTED THAT A BAYLOR FOOTBALL PLAYER WAS ARRESTED FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT?!?!?
How in gods name does that fly under the radar in today's day and age?