OT: Kentucky's Harrison uses racial slur against Wisconsin player
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The word that best describes this whole incident..."unsportsmanlike". Which seems to be a pattern at places like Kentucky by evidence of the players that walked off the court without shaking the hands of the Wisky players.
I think you need to get out in the world a little more if you think there are no other "cry babies" worried about the past. I suggest you ask some armenians about the turks, or polish about the germans, or chinese about the japanese, or irish about the english. You might realize there actually are other "cry babies" who don't easily forget past injustices.
It is interesting that you can make statements about what an entire race thinks or wants. I'm curious, what percentage of "the blacks" do you base your conclusions on? how many told you these things? Was it really a sufficient sample size to know what the entire race thinks about something.
I tend to agree with this. I don't think it's OK for this word to be in such pervasive use in certain segments of society, but the kid apologized and Kaminsky graciously accepted.
After that, exactly what is the problem -- that more people aren't outraged? Other than an apology and its acceptance, what else is there?
A "Double standard" is if Harrison called him a "honky" or "cracker" without anything happening.
How dumb are you people? How out of touch are you people?
Num-nutts above says reality isn't my strong suit. SON, anyone who does not get what Harrison said, and how it has absolutly 0 to do with racism is not operating in any sort of reality AT ALL
As to the N word and the Bias crime from ocean county - i agree thats absurd, its absurd to assign "bias" every time the N word is uttered. THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME ABSURDITY BEING SHOWCASED ON THIS THREAD.
Why don't you look up the most recent bias charge in NJ? B/C its against black people for targeting Indians for robberies and home invasions. Wheres the double standard there?
You clowns want to be taken seriously as angry old white men who are out of touch and generally corny? well these types of stupid arguments are DESTROYING your credibility. Use your feeble minds for Christ's sake.
And since when do a bunch of out of touch white men get to tell black kids that they can't use the N word anyway? Guess what? its none of your business what they use amongst themselves. Esp regarding a word that was use to subjugate them for CENTURIES.
You clowns don't realize that "F that N*gga" essentially means "F that dude" PERIOD. Nothing racial about it, if the other kid had said "F that dude" that would be the same as this. Learn modern F'n America. Learn about the world around you my god, this irritates me. B/C its blatantly friggen STUPID.
How dumb are you people? How out of touch are you people?
Num-nutts above says reality isn't my strong suit. SON, anyone who does not get what Harrison said, and how it has absolutly 0 to do with racism is not operating in any sort of reality AT ALL
As to the N word and the Bias crime from ocean county - i agree thats absurd, its absurd to assign "bias" every time the N word is uttered. THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME ABSURDITY BEING SHOWCASED ON THIS THREAD.
Why don't you look up the most recent bias charge in NJ? B/C its against black people for targeting Indians for robberies and home invasions. Wheres the double standard there?
You clowns want to be taken seriously as angry old white men who are out of touch and generally corny? well these types of stupid arguments are DESTROYING your credibility. Use your feeble minds for Christ's sake.
And since when do a bunch of out of touch white men get to tell black kids that they can't use the N word anyway? Guess what? its none of your business what they use amongst themselves. Esp regarding a word that was use to subjugate them for CENTURIES.
You clowns don't realize that "F that N*gga" essentially means "F that dude" PERIOD. Nothing racial about it, if the other kid had said "F that dude" that would be the same as this. Learn modern F'n America. Learn about the world around you my god, this irritates me. B/C its blatantly friggen STUPID.
Calling people "old" when you have no idea how old anyone is what is tired.
1) If "n*gga" is so modern and cool, why won't you even type the full word?
2) What if Kaminsky said, "that n*gga can ball". Is that a compliment in your book?
Why don't you try focusing on the larger message IL is saying instead of parsing a small part to create a straw man argument or creating little gotcha hypothetical questions?
Ummm, that was his message. Parsing words? I used exact quotes.
The larger issue is it is stupid double standard, and if people think it is a bad word, than they shouldn't use it themselves, regardless of intention or the color of their skin.
Instead of attempting to reframe the argument, maybe answering the questions would be helpful.
The larger issue is it is stupid double standard, and if people think it is a bad word, than they shouldn't use it themselves, regardless of intention or the color of their skin.
Instead of attempting to reframe the argument, maybe answering the questions would be helpful.
Wow. What trailer park do you live in?
(Don't worry. I'm white. According to Mountie, that's not really an insult, but a compliment.)
A few days ago he was saying Christians were victims for having to serve gays, I guess it was only black Christians who were complaining?
Like I said before I'm Italian American and there were a lot of really stupid people complaining about the Sopranos and the Jersey Shore....no group in America has a monopoly when it comes to whining about racism.
You are twisting yourself up now. By claiming it is "modern" is saying it is acceptable now, which is full circle, because that is exactly what your whole argument is.
"Some people simply understand context, and that the word means something different if used to assign hatred towards a race, or used as slang by a member of that race."
You still aren't answering the question. If Kaminsky said that "n*gga" can ball, is that acceptable under modern context? It isn't hate right? In fact, that is less hatred than the original statement, right?
spot on. the acceptance and almost glorifying of the word in hip hop culture and some communities is hypocritical. It needs to stop being used period. You cant allow one race to use and it then AUTOMATICALLY when another race uses it they are branded RACIST
At least you have the balls to type it, not saying it is acceptable, then having to hide the use of it. I respect that.Originally posted by ArminRU:
ITT, old white people talking about the use of nigga
You should write a book on when it is acceptable and when it isn't, under what context, scenario, who can, who can't...you know teach people.
If he had said " that nigga can ball" he would be what us youngins in the north and central jersey area call a "herb" because white boys don't say nigga unless they are herbs.
Sometimes, many times they get away with it, as I have witnessed several times. But they shouldn't say it. Would it be less hateful than him saying "f*ck that n*gger" yes. Would it be OK? No.
But I won't tell a black guy not to say the word BC its not my place. And just BC a black person uses the word on me or others does not give me the right to say it.
Hell, I got called a nigga a few days ago by my black friend literally BC he said he was gonna beat me in basketball once my fat ass got around to playing.
If none of this makes sense to you - you should stop making statements and start asking questions.
Sometimes, many times they get away with it, as I have witnessed several times. But they shouldn't say it. Would it be less hateful than him saying "f*ck that n*gger" yes. Would it be OK? No.
But I won't tell a black guy not to say the word BC its not my place. And just BC a black person uses the word on me or others does not give me the right to say it.
Hell, I got called a nigga a few days ago by my black friend literally BC he said he was gonna beat me in basketball once my fat ass got around to playing.
If none of this makes sense to you - you should stop making statements and start asking questions.
So if Frank Kaminsky were a black man, he would have taken that comment as a compliment? Having listened to the audio, I do not believe Harrison was praising Kaminsky's game. LOL
The n-word is a racial slur in any context, regardless of the intent of the speaker.
By the way, is it okay for an overweight woman to call her chubby friends "fatsos"?
Obvious. But a long time thing if you've been a member of this site for years as I have. And the thing is what in this thread is even remotely about Blacks wanting to be victims or crying? So he's an idiot also.
Typical. The truth really hurts and therefore all they can do is name call instead of being a man, accept the truth and WORK to change the general perception of what is reality today. As I said, grow up and move on. Don't keep blaming other people or other circumstances for you not achieving what you should be achieving. Every nationality and race had to immigrate and ASSIMILATE into American society. No hyphenated names. No "in your face" ethnic dress at work. No "help me" attitude or victim mentality. Just good old hard work and assimilation into AMERICA. Prove you belong and deserve respect. Earn it, don't cry and whine for it.
I did ask questions, no one can answer them.
But that is enough for me. I would rather stay in my close minded world where black people and white people a like don't use racial slurs. Never have I heard my black friends refer to each other like that, me like that, or anyone else. Of course, they are smart dudes with grace and class, so it stands to reason.
Maybe it is you who might want to learn something instead of acting like you know it all. Just a recommendation.
Dude you need to just quit already. What are these hyphenated names that you're referring to? In your face ethnic dress at work? What does that even mean? I mean seriously. I wonder if you got all decked out in green on March 17th like so many others. Or have ever been a member of or know anyone who has been a part of UNICO or for that matter complained about a group such as that. And I bet you're just enraged to see all of those people decked out in green marching every March 17th.
Seriously.......you don't seem too bright.
And how many times have I heard the nonsense from you and others about how Blacks are the only ones who ever describe themselves as something other than simply American. And even have organizations that go in hand with that. But of course that is nothing but BS and anyone with unbiased eyes and a mind knows this.
Well look a here.
Well look a here.
Every time I hear a black person say that word, I think about how often I heard white people say it as a child. Now, I never hear a white person say it and hear black people use it like it's the most popular word in their vocabulary.
All in all, it's much better this way.
All in all, it's much better this way.
Well that's my point.., Kaminsky saying the word is NOT acceptable. White people can't say the word. Period. Blacks say it all the time in rap music, etc. and no one bats an eyelash or cares. Yes, the word itself is offensive - The Kentucky player apologized publicly for using it.
I think most people agree that people shouldn't use racial slurs. But that opinion is not inconsistent with the belief that who uses the slur and in what context also matters.
Cali, it's funny to me that you and others are so obsessed with the fact that modern society prohibits whites from using the N-word... Real racism to me is about a pervasive attitude. See below:
Originally posted by RUnumber1:
Typical. The truth really hurts and therefore all they can do is name call instead of being a man, accept the truth and WORK to change the general perception of what is reality today. As I said, grow up and move on. Don't keep blaming other people or other circumstances for you not achieving what you should be achieving. Every nationality and race had to immigrate and ASSIMILATE into American society. No hyphenated names. No "in your face" ethnic dress at work. No "help me" attitude or victim mentality. Just good old hard work and assimilation into AMERICA. Prove you belong and deserve respect. Earn it, don't cry and whine for it.
Originally posted by RUnumber1:
Typical. The truth really hurts and therefore all they can do is name call instead of being a man, accept the truth and WORK to change the general perception of what is reality today. As I said, grow up and move on. Don't keep blaming other people or other circumstances for you not achieving what you should be achieving. Every nationality and race had to immigrate and ASSIMILATE into American society. No hyphenated names. No "in your face" ethnic dress at work. No "help me" attitude or victim mentality. Just good old hard work and assimilation into AMERICA. Prove you belong and deserve respect. Earn it, don't cry and whine for it.
Hit a nerve did I "RU for jersey?" As I said, the truth really hurts. Again all you can do is result to name calling. We all know who is bright and who is not.
These threads, and they come up pretty often, get nowhere, or to put it better, get to the same exact place every time. One thing that they do accomplish, however, is to suss out some pretty scary points of view. This one is no different. Sorry for this interruption. Continue. Unleash the anger.
Scarlet, you are confused. I'm not advocating that white people should use it. I'm saying non one should.
This is a teachable moment that was missed.
This is a teachable moment that was missed.
